Chapter 571 Eliminates Another Tobi Possibility.

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I know im not the first to think this.
But i think tobi might be the juubi himself (combined with zetsu)

ill try to explain why....

1st: Tobi.... I remembered To having something to do with 10, So i searched in some translater and wikipedia. and To "tō / とお" is the Kun reading for ten. (it might just be coinsidence)

2nd: Tobi tells the hokage he is just a shell of his former self. Wouldn't you agree that the Juubi without his chakra is also a shell of his former self?

3th: In the filler episodes where they capture the sanbi tobi sings a song. Ichibi Nibi I am Tobi" (although thats a filler so it might again be pure coinsedence)

Im still not sure. but these things have got me thinking. (im sorry for my english btw)
 

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Tobi is most likely izuna because he acted weird when he was talking about himself and tobi know too much about madara and only one that was that close to madara was izuna...
 

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oh my bad lol
It's all good.

I never thought it was the older son or the So6p, but you've just proven it further that it isn't. Nice job

Good thread but most people knew that tobi couldnt be the older son.
I remember reading a thread where a lot of people thought it was the older son.

Dave, could it possibly be that Tobi is Obito or Shishu? Just wondering
No

Nice thread. Seems valid to me. +REP
Thanks

I know im not the first to think this.
But i think tobi might be the juubi himself (combined with zetsu)

ill try to explain why....

1st: Tobi.... I remembered To having something to do with 10, So i searched in some translater and wikipedia. and To "tō / とお" is the Kun reading for ten. (it might just be coinsidence)

2nd: Tobi tells the hokage he is just a shell of his former self. Wouldn't you agree that the Juubi without his chakra is also a shell of his former self?

3th: In the filler episodes where they capture the sanbi tobi sings a song. Ichibi Nibi I am Tobi" (although thats a filler so it might again be pure coinsedence)

Im still not sure. but these things have got me thinking. (im sorry for my english btw)
I remember reading something similar to that, saying Tobi is the human manifestation of the 10 tails


heres a theory he's just a random man named tobi no one else we've seen besides himself xd he isn't kagami or so6p he's just tobi xd
This is what I think. Tobi is just a new character.
 

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I'm pretty sure Tobi is someone who has not been introduced yet. For my theory, Tobi was either a "creation"(and I use that term loosely) of Madara, or someone who was close enough to Madara so that he knew when and where Madara died.
 

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I'm pretty sure Tobi is someone who has not been introduced yet. For my theory, Tobi was either a "creation"(and I use that term loosely) of Madara, or someone who was close enough to Madara so that he knew when and where Madara died.
I believe the same thing as you do. Below is more or less me theorizing from this post's viewpoint:


Just going to throw this out there. For me, it was always between the Elder son of the sage of six paths, Kagami Uchiha, Madara or Izuna. At the current point, I would say all four options are eliminated due to recent events in the manga.
The main contributor to who Tobi is, might be build upon one single statement "I'm no one."
For me, that kind of sounds like coming from someone who in fact is nobody. In other words, he isn't a real person, a human being, much like the way you can view Zetsu.
Something that is created (robot or anything), often refers to themselves by code names or creation ID. And seeing how Tobi has seemingly goo-ish blood, I believe he's of the same origin as Zetsu. My guess is that both of them are lifeforms created by using the powers of the Sage of Six Paths as explained here;



To sum it up, Tobi and Zetsu are most likely beings, created by Madara when he acquired the Rinnegan (which he did right before he died). Maybe he died due to aftereffects of preforming the jutsu ?
This would also explain how Tobi knows as much as he do (heritaged some of Madara's knowledge and wisdom and being able to wield both the sharingan and the rinnegan without much problem, in opposite of Kakashi).

He could also be a creation of the Elder son of So6P too, but who knows.
 
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now u think is obito lol
Obvious sarcasm is not obvious.. i guess.. smh lol

Lol I did. I was hyped when I saw Naruto transform. I can't even lie but there was a lot more in the chapter too.

Lol NvG typical owning people.

Thanks, and I appreciate your imput. I'm glad it puts it on the backburner at least.

PE it's sarcasm man lol
your right there was alot more to the chapter.. and you bring up good points about Tobi man

Tobi is most likely izuna because he acted weird when he was talking about himself and tobi know too much about madara and only one that was that close to madara was izuna...
nah i doubt it.. i think Kishi put it well when he had Tobi said "I am nobody"
 

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Older Son despises his father, and everything he did for choosing the Younger Son; your thing about the names is invalid. And about reconizing Naruto as the Sage... Tobi is a being bent solely on doing evil; he's not going to say "Oh, you look like daddy." Did Darth Vader give anything away that he was Luke's father when they first met?
LMAO@ "You look like daddy"

You have a key point in that, because he probably just despises everything in general that has to do with anything of so6p
 

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Obvious sarcasm is not obvious.. i guess.. smh lol



your right there was alot more to the chapter.. and you bring up good points about Tobi man



nah i doubt it.. i think Kishi put it well when he had Tobi said "I am nobody"
Wasn't i right when i said tobi isn't madara??? and weren't you wrong?!?!?! lol
 

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I certainly agree, if Tobi was the So6p he would never go against his morals, and if he was the son of the so6p or even a close descendant, he would have gotten over his anger of brotherly rivalry from his life experiences. Uchihas hating Senju is reasonable because they lack knowledge of what happened in the past, they did not know thus cannot understand one another, and then lived on constant brotherly rivalry, especially during the war.

One thing I do not understand is how did the so6p's sealing technique end up in Naruto, right before he achieved chakra-beast mode? Was it because of Minato or a different reason?
 
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i wouldnt say this completely rules it out. tobi has a fantastic amount of arrogance, he will not acknowledge naruto, and he certainly won't refer to the tailed-beasts by name, even if he knew them. can you imagine madara learning kurama's name and using it? obviously not.

anyway, imo as shown in your sig, tobi really doesn't care about anything anymore, only getting those bijuu. he's taking every development in his stride
 

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While everybody was jizzing in their pants over this new chapter. It actually had me thinking about who Tobi actually was. Since the sixth coffin was revealed a lot of people (I'm not going to put you on blast) have stated that Tobi is the Elder son of the So6P. I'm going to give my explanation of why he's not from a logical standpoint.
I've read your points and I'll just say that it's not enough to completely rule out this possibility, it's not even close to that.
Even after Madara was ressurected by Edo Tensei and Tobi admited he's not Madara, alot of people still believe he is and you were/are one of them, yet you claim this "evidence" completely eliminates the possibility of Elder son of being Tobi.

First proof of evidence: The first time Naruto is in Kyuubi Chakra Mode and fights the fox. Kurama recognizes him as a representation of the so6p.
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If he did that it would immedietly spoil his identity. It's not the first time Kishimoto does this to save the identity of Tobi. There's a page where Tobi tells Kabuto he fought Hashirama and took an tissue with his cells after the battle. At that page Tobi admited to be Madara after seeing the real Madara ressurected in front of his eyes. Do we rule out everyone because of this "evidence" and claim him to be Madara?

Upon meeting with Naruto for the first time in KCM, and now his half biju transformation. Tobi shows no sign of recognition towards Naruto resembling the Sage, but he mocks him instead. Wouldn't he be surprised that Naruto resembles his father.
We do not know how SO6P looked so this statement is invalid and even if he did looked like SO6P, Tobi was expecting him to achieve this power. Not once did he flinch at the sight of his new powers. How would you explain that?

My last piece of evidence happened in the last few chapters. When Naruto was talking to Son Goku. Goku stated that the beast were respected by the Sage, and were all given specific names when they were created.

If Tobi was the true Older Son of the sage wouldn't he identify and acknowledge each beast by his name. Throughout this fight Tobi has been saying "I'm going to capture you nine tails, eight tails" "I will become the jinchuriki of the 10 tails, this is my will" so on and so forth. Without calling them by their true name.
Are we talking about the same man here? When did Tobi respected anyone? The only man he respected was Hashirama and we don't even know if that was part of his Madara act. In any case, Tobi would never respect or acknowledge these beasts that stand in the way of his plan, he threats them as weapons and all he cares about is ressurecting Juubi. I don't see why he should call them by their names and spoil his identity.

My point is Tobi is in no way shape or form the older son of the So6p. Simple thread, but I thought I should contribute something different to the Manga section other than the people jizzing over the Naruto transformation. While eliminating another Tobi possibility. :shrug:
What are your thoughts?
It's not a very strong point and in no way does it eliminate this possibility. You kind of sound like trolling, I am not sure if you are serious with this thread.

Answer me this. Kyuubi recognized Tobi. Who else could have made Kyuubi to flip out and say "You..."? Kyuubi was sealed in Jinchuuriki for about 80 years and no one had access to him. This narrows the possibility of Tobi's identity to just few people and elder son of the Sage is one of them.
 

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Dave dont bother with the noob above me. Hes just a troll

Wasn't i right when i said tobi isn't madara??? and weren't you wrong?!?!?! lol
Lol meh I said madara was the best possibility.. But after tobi said he is nobody i believe that was kishi saying tobi is not a known character in disguise just his own identity

But yea i was wrong lol
 
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