That's not true, a shell is just a container and not that which is contained. Also since Madara who couldn't summon or use the Mezo as an Edo, could form black rods. They are from Rokduo chakra. Onmyodon can't be used by the Jyubi only by the Jyubi Jin. It comes from Rokudo chakra and the 10 tails chakra merging to give RSM. Here's the thing you're forgetting Rokudo chakra remains even when one doesn't have the Rinnegan. The Rinnegan itself shows thee awakening of the rokudo chakra and that's it. The rokudo chakra in an Uchiha incarnate produces the Rinnegan, however the chakra isn't contingent on the Rinnegan.
No this is actually wrong. The gedo mazo is literally the shell of the jubi. A husk: means outer layer.
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It’s not a container, it’s the actually body of the ten tails without its complete chakra. You can’t create a ten tails with just nine bijus together otherwise Naruto and Sasuke’s Susano’o would’ve turned into the ten tails when they combined the bijus chakra together in battle. The gedo mazo is the cocoon state of the ten tails.
Madara used black rods when he was old in the cave and when he was blind. Edo Madara using black rods because of his fake rinnegan is completely wrong. It has nothing to do with his eyes at all.
I don’t know why you’re so bent on black rods being a rinnegan power when the manga proved countless times that it’s not.
Even the 3rd databook said it’s not either.
Truthseeking orbs is the power of the jubi and the shadow and light style of the jubi is natural energy Sage Power in nature. Six path chakra has little to do with it at all.
Senjutsu chakra and chakra are different. That’s why Sasuke who has six path chakra does not have the power to use truth seeking orbs.
The rest I have no idea on what you’re trying to imply.
Yes it's the awakened rokudo chakra that grants the potential for it, but it's not associated with the bodily chakra. The TSBs are different and come from the Jyuubi side of things and are associated with it exclusively.
As for Nagato, I believe Madara booby trapped the Mezo. As neither Obito nor Madara were ever affected or crippled by the Mezo. It would be similar to how Madara had traps inside Obito. Even though this isn't shown, I think Obito taught him how to use the shadow and light styles.
Bodily chakra in the series always refer to senjutsu chakra. Not what you’re trying to say here.
When Madara first gained the rinnegan, it took the Hashirama tissue that was transplanted in his body to awaken the ocular chakra in his eyes. So the six path chakra isn’t only stored in his eyes, it’s also spread throughout the rest of the body. This is why black rods come out from the body and not the eyes. It’s everywhere. Same thing with uchiha bloodline limit, it’s not only limited to their eyes it’s also in their blood/dna.
The reason why Nagato was crippled is because the rods where forcibly stabbed into his back, Madara had senju tissues attached to the mazo making it easier for him to absorb chakra from the mazo, this includes the black rods. Obito has the same tissue from Hashirama and the gedo mazo attached to his body according to Swirl Zetsu, so he can also use a tether like Madara and swirl Zetsu to absorb chakra from the mazo.
I can deny that, as I believe the Mezo was booby trapped by Madara for Nagato's manipulation. I've mentioned the how and why above. Also the false Rinnegan Madara who couldn't use or summon the Mezo could use the rods, make the rods and even control the ones inside Obito to takes over his body. Therefore, they can't be connected to the Mezo per se. I will accept Madara may have used the Mezos lifeforce to make them stronger, much like spiral Zetsu borrowed it to break the boulder.
You can not deny my the manga for anything because you’re speculating that a false rinnegan is responsible for the black rods.
And for whatever reason you believe that Madara “booby trapped” the gedo mazo to implant the rods into Nagato, know that it was done by a Madara who did not have the rinnegan at all.
Are you denying that the black rods came from the navel of the mazo? You’re saying that the two pages I posted to you is wrong? You can’t deny anything the manga is literally showing you.
At that time the only users of rokudo rods were Rinnegan users now you have Jigen using it. That's why the narrative is slightly different. Although the rods only seem to be available to the rokudo descendants of the Rinnegan side and not the bodily side.
This is wrong. Black rods were not from Rinnegan users because old Madara used it without the rinnegan, as did kid Obito and Hamura.
The manga never said that the black rods is the power of the rinnegan, people speculated as such and Jigen clarified that it is not.
Even the gedo mazo produced the black rods from its navel doesn’t have a rinnegan at all.
Several months back, Ikepedo gave an interview. You'll have to google search it as I'm a little busy.
I heard that Kishi is supervising this work.
It doesn't really work that way, as a Jin is manifold superior to one who has absorbed chakra. Anyway, Sasuke and Naruto gained unlimited chakra during the war arc and now Jodachi has decided to plot restrict them once again. You have to remember it's not their story anymore.
Naruto and Sasuke did not have unlimited chakra.
And absorbing chakra directly from the Jubi overtime is powerful, I didn’t say that it was on par with a jubi jinchuuriki. Naruto and Sasuke were overpowered by jubi jinchuuriki as kids and their only success was either to extract the biju or the sun/moon seal that was their weakness.
You misunderstand, Sasuke used Ameno much like Madsra uses Limbo, but he doesn't emply the paths. The pretax path could easily absorb the rods, but you know. And Sasuke couldve beheaded Jigen had he streamed Chidori, but you know plot.
Once again Sasuke does not have Gakido or any of Pain’s powers. He can absorb chakra but he cannot absorb the black rods at all. Black rods are a shadow and light style that can nullify/deflect ninjutsu.
Streaming chidori isn’t going to behead Jigen, you’re gravely underrating the Ohtutsuki’s power. Jigen literally kicked Sasuke out of Perfect Susano’o, what chidori variant is going to do anything to a guy who can overwhelm the strongest form of Susano’o and a full nine tails jinchuuriki avatar?
The only thing that was nerfed really is the level of their chakra. All their arsenals were accounted for.
We know Madara's chakra reserves even without becoming a rokudo were monstrously huge. Big enough to fight a 24hour death match against Hashirama and other Senju. Then the second time to push Hashirama to exhaustion. He had naturally massive chakra reserves, that's why the comparison is still pretty valid.
EMS Madara? That level of chakra is child’s play to any six path level character.
Bsm Naruto, Hachibi, and Obito fought 48hrs straight yet they would get manhandled by any Ohtutsuki member in a fight.
I’m talking about Rinnegan Madara. Not EMS Madara. When you’re using six path level powers for a long period of time it drains the body significantly more than it does a standard uchiha or senju power alone.
Having said a that, Kodachi can right the story however he wants. Naruto was getting clapped by Delta and the only reason he won there was because of Kawaki and Delta overheating so he may rewrite everything.
They literally said that the only reason why naruto was holding back was because of the kids that were in the way.
He even used Lava style rasenshuriken on Delta, the same power that pushed back Jubi jinchuuriki Madara and sent him flying threw the god tree.