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WOW for chapter 507. I had to say wow once more. The long awaited truth is out. As hinted in the manga earlier, that Uchiha Madara was controlling the 4th Mizukage have finally be confirmed. What is also comfirmed is that Tobi is Madara as he said. There is no more denying it. Now we have proof that Kisame did see Uchiha Madara many years before when Madara was controlling the 4th Mizukage. Kisame also called the masked man who called himself Madara Mizukage and then confirm that he was Madara. The interesting thing is that Madara is shown with all his hair. This is important because it places a time stamp to around the time he was controlling the 4th Mizukage. The thing to know it that this could have been done after Madara fought the first Hokage. I have not done any research to confirm when all the villages started, but I will assume that the all were formed around the same time based on my known history of Naruto and the ninja world. Madara had this moon eye plan in the work before this eight. I think he wanted to keep the 9-tails and failed. I now don't think that the battle at the Valley At The End was about ruling Konoha. I think that Madara wanted to keep the 9-tails and the Shodai decided that it should be kept secret as a power that will be kept in Konoha. I am waiting to hear from you guys on what you think about my comment!
 

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One more thing to comment. For the first time we see that Kisame killed the previous owner that had a pack (contract) with Samehade. I have noticed that he had a similar face and look just like Kisame. I would conclude that he was from the same clan. I think that shark-boy from Sasuke's team is from the same clan as well. Also we can affirm that Madara has the same dojutsu as Shishui, controlling people. Its possible that he was from the same bloodline as Madara. Maybe that is why he was alienated by the others.
 

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It turns out that the information that Kisame had will finally get to Madara. I guess this is how he would know how far Naruto have become and it will be the precursor to the battle between Naruto and Sasuke. The next manga is a long awaited vision that all of us had. Konan have hid the body of Nagato and Madara is facing her in battle for it. I don't think that he will find those eyes. The greatest mystery is what Konan have done with them. It would been great if she burnt the body with the eyes and they are done forever. However, that will not be the case because we will get to see Madara reach to the brink of his Moon Eye Plan only to see it go up in smoke. I will be waiting to see not chapter 509 have in store for us.
 

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Interesting developments for both the manga and the anime. I just read a spoiler and it was no surprise that Konan is fighting Madara (aka Tobi). What surprised me is that she is skilled enough to cause injure Madara (aka Tobi) to the point where he has to fight for his life. We get to see more of that face under the mask. Surprising, surprising!

Now for the anime! Even-though many may be complaining about the fillers, the anime have have been filling more missing information. Last anime, Shippuuden 176 showed the ordeal of Iruka and how he had to come to terms with the lost of his parents. Now we get to see how Madara decided to recruit Itachi. We are in history class with Naruto and the ninja world pertaining to the Hidden Leaf Village. I would have wanted to see a little love scene between Naruto and Hinata pertaining to the truthful words from her heart to Naruto. I will keep hope alive!
 

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Wow is right deatheknight256. I am bubbling with excitement. Madara revealed that Nagato is actually a Uzumaki. The said that the signature read hair turned snow white. As I looked back into the anime and the manga, we never knew the full name of Nagato. I think that if Jiraiya know that he was Uzumaki Nagato, things would have been different. So, the eyes of the well known Nagato belonged to Uzumaki clan, and is connected to the Senju Clan. I remember that Naruto's mother saying that when Whirlpool was destroyed, the Uzumaki clan went into hiding in many different countries. This means that Nagato's family went into Rain Country. I am stilled shocked at the mysteries to the lengths that Kishi went to keep all this information secret.

Also, now we know that Madara does not need Naruto's body. He already have the DNA of the Shodai in him. It might have been the work of his own doing. Things have turned very interesting.

I am surprised that Lord, Melo, IrereNinja, and others are not commenting on the turn of events that have been taking place in the manga.
 
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My bad, What I meant was how he was able to recover from injuries just like when he was fighting Danzo's men when he lost an arm, he was using Izanagi all along. A guy with Izanagi + Teleport jutsu == One tough bad guy to beat. He didn't even have to use his powers, Madara killed Konan simply by just stabbing her and placed her under a Genjutsu while Konan did everything just to take Madara down. Sucks =/, I liked her character and her powers. Quite unique. She could take the three tails down by herself.


So that means he has three parts of the S06P already. My guess is he needs Sasuke because Sasuke may have the "Eye" of the S06P because although Madara already has Mangyekou Sharingan, I have a funny feeling that when he fought with Senju Harishama, he cancelled some powers of his eyes(as Itachi said "he is a shadow of his former self). He may also need Naruto because it shows that Naruto has the body of the S06P. Just my guess, because he is starting to collect bodies that has powers of S06P.

So this episode cancels out the Obito/Tobi theory. yey! Finally put's the theory to rest.
I think Kabuto's trump card against Madara is one of the body of the S06P.

and I think Melo and the others did not comment because they prefer Narutochaos and is still waiting for the website to be fixed. Get well soon Narutochaos :(
 

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Hey you guys! Good seeing you here. I do am keeping tabs but usually wouldn't have time to comment since i was really too busy.

Yes, indeed, a lot of the things we have been predicting for the last two years were right.

(1) that madara 'faked' his death during his battle against the shodai at the VotE.
(2) he was able to 'fake' it by the izanagi genjutsu.
(3) tobi is indeed madara. he has said it again: I AM MADARA. and he just supplied more than enough proof that he is -- and that he is more than what people thought he was. he has absorbed the power of hashirama, no one could do that except him. not obito or whoever else.
(4) tobi/madara has still another eye at the other side of his face hidden under a mask
(5) the mask serves a purpose: this eye or this side of his face is special so he has to keep it covered.
(6) he is darkness, and the other side of his face confirms that as well. that side of his face is just purely black.
(7) he collects sharingan eyes so that he can use each of them for izanagi or for whatever unique powers they have, and the hidden eye socket is the special vehicle for whatever type of sharingan eye that he would need for a specific situation.
(8) having pointed out the purpose of his collecting sharingan eyes, he is indeed the one who was the mastermind for the uchiha clan massacre.
(9) madara is not at all invincible, he dies a real death but turns the reality of his death into an illusion through his izanagi, which we now know he has used at least twice.
(10) he has still the power of his eyes, his EMS, he just keeps them away since he won't be needing them yet.


AND HELL YEAH! nagato was an uzumaki! and he had the rin'negan! and he was the 3rd path among six paths.

all these means that naruto can also have the rin'negan! and since we now know that naruto has the body of the rikkoudo sage, surely he is one of the six paths. sasuke should be one more.

the missing parts of the puzzle now are:

how was nagato able to get the rin'negan, and how exactly did madara 'give the rin'negan' to him?

how come madara has identified the ones who are parts of the six paths? and how can he absorb the powers of each of the parts of the six?

and lastly, if madara and the shodai were the first two parts, nagato was the third, naruto and sasuke the fifth and sixth, then who is the last path among the six paths?
 
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correction: madara must have used the izanagi at least thrice.

add to the time he used it against shodai at the VotE and most recently against konan's paper angel is itachi's amaterasu that was implanted on sasuke.

this is the 'secret' he was talking about that he kept hidden from itachi, without which, he himself claimed, he would have been dead.

venger: that's a very interesting idea. yes definitely we should take that into consideration. now would he massacre the whole clan also so the power of the byakugan will only centralized on an individual who could be the 6th path? what do you think? who'll be the sixth path with the super byakugan? neji or hinata?

and when madara is able to do that he'll seal within himself the juubi, after gathering all the nine beasts. of course, that would mean sasuke, hinata, and naruto are dead, too for madara has absorbed them all -- "everything shall be One"
 

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I think that Madara already have a Byakugan already. It may have to do with the clan leader's twin brother. I think that Konoha removed they eyes before the body was given to Kumo. They eyes were taken by Madara. We know that he have been moving in and out of Konoha from the beginning. How? If he was not, how did he get his hands on all those eyes from the dead clansmen. So, I think that Madara have the eyes of Hinata's father's twin brother.

If we look carefully, all the members of the six paths are connected to Konoha. Madara, Shodai, Nagato (Uzumaki via mother, father was Rain citizen), Naruto, Sasuke. Three are Senju or as least connected to them. Two are Uchicha. I nominate that the last is Uchiha. So there is a living Uchiha that we don't know about or as least one that needs to resurrected. Maybe Deatheknight is right about Kabuto. I think that the body belongs to an Uchiha.

The other possibility is that the body that kabuto resurrected was of the Hyuga clan. I don't know who in the narutoverse right now have the same level of power as Naruto or Sasuke to be classed as one of the six paths.

Good to see many more of us are here commenting. I thought that I was the only one for a while! :))
 

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I think impossible for madara to use Neji's father (Hinata's-father twin brother) byakugan, because the mark of his head prevent anyone to reveal its secret (or maybe disabled byakugan ability).
 

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You might be right Aravir but nothing is impossible with Madara Uchiha. Look at how he was able to integrate the Shodai's DNA into his own body and control it compared to Danzo. I am sure that Madara implants his own eyes as he has a collection. I am sure that the seal on Neji's father head can be broken by a skilled ninja. This is why I think that his eyes were removed before it went to Kumo. I think that Madara took them. If not his, he must have the eyes of a another skilled byakugan user that we have not heard about yet.
 

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interesting comments dudes. we don't know if uzumaki nagato fits in the 'eye' or 'body' classification, since he can be both.

being an uzumaki makes nagato a kin of the 'body of the rikkoudo sennin', the senju, but having the eyes, the rin'negan', too makes him an heir of the rikkuodo's 'eye'... so does he have uchiha genes, too?!? since the uchiha were the inheritors of the 'power of the eye'.

or was the 'rin'negan' actually madara's possession, and he just gave/loaned them to nagato, as he claimed he did?

if this is the case, could this be the reason why we don't see madara using his MS? could it be that the implantation of izuna's MS into madara did not just merge the two MSs but transformed them into the entirely unique eye-technique itachi was referring to -- a rin'negan?

on another note, could this be the reason why madara emphatically mentioned that he will make sasuke and naruto fight each other? will he make sasuke absorb naruto's power also like he did to the shodai?

the recent revelations, wonderful as they are, opened us to some more interesting questions. so let us then launch ourselves to further predictions and theories!

R.I.P. Konan, with much love and adoration. i hope you or your great accomplishment/discovery about the dark enemy's secret which u heroically paid with your own dear life gets to naruto, too. may naruto inherit your will, also. and i utter this eulogy with an origami flower and a prayer of hope clasped in my hands. :)
 

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if 'rin'negan' is actually madara's possession, it means madara gave it to nagato when nagato was just a child.


'bout madara MS, we've seen it through Itachi's story during his fight with Sasuke. It wasn't rinnegan after all. Of course we see it through Itachi's story and don't know if that MS form is true.
 
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just read the lastest chapter. The odds are totally in the favor of Akatsuki now, having made Madara more powerful with the rinnegan and information from Kisame. Now he knows that Naruto is becoming stronger but can't perfect his thundergod technique yet, that's why he's going to strike right away because he knows if Naruto completes that thundergod technique it would be a whole lot of trouble for them knowing that he even retreated from the 4th because of this.
I wonder what will Kishi do if he really allows Madara to capture Naruto, it would be impossible for a comeback for the good guys even if Naruto would be brought back from the dead, unless Sasuke will have a change of heart though.

I'm looking forward for the technique that Naruto will achieve after obtaining the Nine tails power. referring to what the frog have said in this chapter:


I am guessing that Naruto will be put into the edge of defeat when he fights Madara and will talk to the Kyuubi during the fight so that the Kyuubi and Naruto would help each other fight Madara.

Melo: I think Madara is just being over possessive about the Rinnegan is really his.
 

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Deatheknight I agree with you. Madara have a new mask that reflects the 10 tails. I think that Madara stole the Shodai's DNA so that he can have full control over the 9 tails. Now I am waiting to see what happens. I think that the 9 tails with go to Naruto for he as he will know what happens if Madara can best Naruto. I say this because I know that Madara would have to use his eye on Naruto before he can get to the 9 tails. He would not be able to break the seal. He will have to convince Naruto to release the 9 tails as he wants control of it. If the 9 tails gets out of Naruto, Madara will then have to defeat the beast to control it.

Interesting chapter.
 
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