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Sasuke can't even absorb natural energy, that alone suffice to say he can't learn it. Also SM isn't for the weak, thats Ashura's ability. Thats like saying sharingan is for the weak. Infact SM comes naturally whilst EMS and above requires handouts.
SM Hashirama >>>>>>>>>>>> Wrecks MS Madara, thats why he needed his brothers eyes and Kurama to compete. Funny thing is he still lost with EMS and Kurama. XD
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anybody who talks of madara with sage mode is an idiot who does not read the manga properly ... madara had hashirama cells inside of him coz of kabuto hence it was possible for him .... madara is nothing special a person who steals senju dna just to combine it with himself like kabuto did ... sasuke n naruto r far stronger than that zombie ......
super michael
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Minato, Jiraiya and Kabuto have nothing to do with being Ashura yet they have Sage Mode. Sasuke not being able to absorb Natural energy means Sasuke was never taught. Naruto couldn't absorb Natural energy till he was taught.
For Frog Sage Mode = high chakra
For Dragon Sage Mode =? But stronger than Orochimaru seeing Orochimaru couldn't handle Sage Mode
I can't remember why couldn't Minato stay long in Sage Mode? I know training in Sage Mode can extend duration, which Naruto was doing after defeating Pain training.
Actually SM Hashirama >> EMS Madara, Kurama is borrowed powers, but EMS is part of Uchiha genes, there nothing borrowed or stolen about gaining EMS.
I don't believe Sasuke can learn Sage mode. Sage mode and curse seal are similar because they both use natural energy and produce senjutsu, but they are not the same. With sage mode the user actually learn how to control and manipulate natural energy. With curse seal the user never learn to control or manipulate. They just learn how to control the curse seal and the curse seal does everything for them. That's the reason Sasuke didn't know anything about natural or senjutsu during the war even though he had previously used the curse seal.
The reason Madara could use sage mode was because of the changes Kabuto made to his body. He literally had the 1st hokage's face on his chest and when he used sage mode the 1st hokage's face changed instead of his face.
If anything it was made for the strong. Narutal energy is the same power the ten tail uses. All eye power and body power originates from the 10 tens. We all know how power the eye power and body power are. So. for a person to be able to control the 10 tens power they must be powerful.
The curse seal was made for people how are too weak to learn the sage mode.
The reason Madara could use sage mode was because of the changes Kabuto made to his body. He literally had the 1st hokage's face on his chest and when he used sage mode the 1st hokage's face changed instead of his face.
Sage mode is not made for the weak, that's the reason only strong people have been able to learn it. Naruto is still strong without the sage mode or tail beast power. Remember, unlike Sasuke or anybody else in has class he didn't have a family to train his outside the academy and the 9 tails has held him back most of the manga by making it harder for his to control his control and power.
If anything it was made for the strong. Narutal energy is the same power the ten tail uses. All eye power and body power originates from the 10 tens. We all know how power the eye power and body power are. So. for a person to be able to control the 10 tens power they must be powerful.
The curse seal was made for people how are too weak to learn the sage mode.
King Of Pop
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since when did pre sm naruto have great chakra control? his chakra control is completely abysmal and pedestrian near sasuke back then. so if anything you just showed that sasuke can learn it and with ease at that.
OT. he has a strong body, chakra reserves no problem as well and balancing natural energy shouldnt be any trouble for someone like him. jiriaya, minato etc dont have anything special in them to sasuke but they learned it and unlike them, sasuke has some experience in handling senjutsu chakra. sasuke now knows of the great snake sage through kabuto. he just doesnt care for it, otherwise nothing stopping him from learning it if he wishes. thread just a disgrace
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These faps are hilarious some no brainer just said SM is for the weak lmao is that why madara had to absorb hashirama sm is that why sasuke needed that watered down version of sm to even compete against jj obito lol? Hilarious indeed
The faps are hilarious lmao do they even read the manga? And wasnt it stated he needed great chakra control or else hell turn into a frog lol and not to even mention the fact that having kyuubi in him made his chakra control terrible
super michael
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I am going to say this about Sage Mode, if the Ninja doesn't learn to absorb Natural Energy then the Ninja can't use Sage Mode.
Naruto couldn't absorb Natural Energy, he needed to be taught how to absorb and be still. Naruto used the toad oil to help which is normal.
Kabuto learned from the Snakes to turn into Sage Mode
Minato and Jiraiya learned from the Frogs like Naruto.
Sasuke never learned from the Snakes, how is Sasuke going to absorb Natural energy if Sasuke never learned to absorb. We don't even know all the requirement for Dragon Sage Mode.
Naruto couldn't absorb Natural Energy, he needed to be taught how to absorb and be still. Naruto used the toad oil to help which is normal.
Kabuto learned from the Snakes to turn into Sage Mode
Minato and Jiraiya learned from the Frogs like Naruto.
Sasuke never learned from the Snakes, how is Sasuke going to absorb Natural energy if Sasuke never learned to absorb. We don't even know all the requirement for Dragon Sage Mode.
King Of Pop
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because he hasnt been thought how to. if he learns under the snake sage, he gets it done. he used jugo because his cs chakra could help him hurt juubito, surely you dont expect sasuke to use sage mode when he hasnt learned it
yes, but that doesnt mean he cant learn sm if he chooses to.
super michael
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Ok I will summarize everything I said.
1st Curse Seal = Senjutsu chakra
2nd Sasuke powers = Sasuke was strong enough to defeat Naruto, Sakura, Sai and Yamato without using Curse Seal, Just Sasuke Natural powers.
3rd Sasuke mastered the Curse Seal to the point Sasuke can do partial transformation which Jugo credits Sasuke
These are the things Sasuke. Sasuke losing his Curse Seal was never noted for Sasuke losing speed, power, chakra, only that Sasuke can't transform anymore into the Curse Seal stages.
Sasuke has the body, just not the knowledge how to use Sage Mode and absorb Natural energy, Sasuke needs a teacher like everyone else.
Sasuke never lost control of Curse Seal against Itachi, that was Orochimaru escaping Sasuke which has nothing to do with Curse seal, its more to do with Sasuke absorbing Orochimaru from the ritual.
1st Curse Seal = Senjutsu chakra
2nd Sasuke powers = Sasuke was strong enough to defeat Naruto, Sakura, Sai and Yamato without using Curse Seal, Just Sasuke Natural powers.
3rd Sasuke mastered the Curse Seal to the point Sasuke can do partial transformation which Jugo credits Sasuke
These are the things Sasuke. Sasuke losing his Curse Seal was never noted for Sasuke losing speed, power, chakra, only that Sasuke can't transform anymore into the Curse Seal stages.
Sasuke has the body, just not the knowledge how to use Sage Mode and absorb Natural energy, Sasuke needs a teacher like everyone else.
Sasuke never lost control of Curse Seal against Itachi, that was Orochimaru escaping Sasuke which has nothing to do with Curse seal, its more to do with Sasuke absorbing Orochimaru from the ritual.
super michael
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Funny faps trying to say Naruto had poor chakra control, but Naruto managed
to perform rasengan(A rank difficulty), while Kurama was actively messing with his flow
of chakra.
Managed to display a feat(Advancing the rasengan) that took so much chakra control that J man failed, the 4th, and Kakashi.
Kakashi being someone who learned 1,000+ justu, and hailed as a prodigy, and the 4th being the
creator of it.
Then took it farther and added senjustu, then he started throwing in tailed beast nature affinities,
when throwing in your own is practically impossible to begin with, he eventually proceeds to do
this all with one hand.
to perform rasengan(A rank difficulty), while Kurama was actively messing with his flow
of chakra.
Managed to display a feat(Advancing the rasengan) that took so much chakra control that J man failed, the 4th, and Kakashi.
Kakashi being someone who learned 1,000+ justu, and hailed as a prodigy, and the 4th being the
creator of it.
Then took it farther and added senjustu, then he started throwing in tailed beast nature affinities,
when throwing in your own is practically impossible to begin with, he eventually proceeds to do
this all with one hand.
super michael
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Kurama wasn't what made Naruto chakra control poor, it was Orochimaru seal, here is the page where Jiraiya mentions it
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