Chakra control: Explaining why Sakura was/is superior in this aspect.

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Chatte, why even bother? On a site such as NB, I'd be surprised if even 10% of the people which posted on the thread actually read it. In any case, I'd at least recommend putting in a summary or something along the lines.

On topic - I've seen an endless amount of people discuss this matter. Don't feel like getting into it, but in any case they're pretty equal. Ultimately, it comes down to what one considers to be Chakra Control, which is a matter of personal opinion.​
 

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you not used fact that narutoverse contain many types of chakra control in your fan thread.
All chakra control stems from its very basic type.

So because she get's a little praise in the manga she's the best at chakara control?

That's like saying because one of Miley Cyrus's songs had some alright lyrics she's the best musician of our generation.
You know your analogy is flawed.
And I haven't based all my thread on praise, otherwise I would've just posted the Byakugo stuff and let you deal with it. Since manga dictates that Byakugo seal is the pinnacle of chakra control, but apparently people like to disapprove with that matter too, like any other matter when it comes to Sakura.
Gee, I wonder why don't we disapprove with other talents of other ninjas as well.
 
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This won't end well. Controlling kyuubi's chakra, w/ countless number of chakra cloaks and natural energy at the same time can rarely be surpassed.
 

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Naruto surpassed Sakura in this case.
He was able to handle Biju Chakura,
and Learned Sennin Mōdo in a couple weeks.
He can Link Chakra via his own chakra.
He went basically from to
And is thus superior in chakra control compared to both Sasuke and Sakura.

this guy gets it and dont forget combine both shape and nature transformation.
plus this guy is better than sakura in chakra control healed sakura when she couldnt her self
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Chatte, why even bother? On a site such as NB, I'd be surprised if even 10% of the people which posted on the thread actually read it. In any case, I'd at least recommend putting in a summary or something along the lines.

On topic - I've seen an endless amount of people discuss this matter. Don't feel like getting into it, but in any case they're pretty equal. Ultimately, it comes down to what one considers to be Chakra Control, which is a matter of personal opinion.
Hmm, good point about the 10 percent people. Bother? Uhm, not much. Let's just say for the fun of old times. :p
As for that, that's what I said myself. It can be argued that they are equal, but to say Sakura is under Naruto, is rather a misconception since the manga argues otherwise. But oh well...

this guy gets it and dont forget combine both shape and nature transformation.
plus this guy is better than sakura in chakra control healed sakura when she couldnt her self
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Those are contextually different cases, dear. It's not like Kabuto had been hit by Kyuubi's tail.

so naruto which learned rasengan aka highest form of shape transformation and created rasenshuriken have perfect chakra control?
Remember how much it took him?
 
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You know your analogy is flawed.
And I haven't based all my thread on praise, otherwise I would've just posted the Byakugo stuff and let you deal with it. Since manga dictates that Byakugo seal is the pinnacle of chakra control, but apparently people like to disapprove with that matter too, like any other matter when it comes to Sakura.
Gee, I wonder why don't we disapprove with other talents of other ninjas as well.
It's not flawed, you just refuse to accept it.

You simply want Sakura to be on a higher tier than she actually is.

To say Sakura has good chakara control is logical.

To say she has great chakara control is fanboying a little but still logical.

To say she has the best chakara control is pure wanking.
 

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It's not flawed, you just refuse to accept it.

You simply want Sakura to be on a higher tier than she actually is.

To say Sakura has good chakara control is logical.

To say she has great chakara control is fanboying a little but still logical.

To say she has the best chakara control is pure wanking.
Lol, argue with the manga dear, not with me.
I am not the one who wrote that from the back of my mind. All that's written is based on manga evidence.
 

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Nary to has already surpassed sakura in chakra control. You have no proof sakura mastered the seal on the first try its possible she failed multiple times we don't know. However unlike sakura naruto is able to perfectly match other people's chakra types and ratios and also control the cloak around them. He is able to make bijuu bombs which requires perfect control and even then the rasengan is supposed to be the highest non bijuu form of chakra shaping a form of chakra control and manipulation sakura got outdone by naruto simple.
 

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Hmm, good point about the 10 percent people. Bother? Uhm, not much. Let's just say for the fun of old times. :p
As for that, that's what I said myself. It can be argued that they are equal, but to say Sakura is under Naruto, is rather a misconception since the manga argues otherwise. But oh well...



Those are contextually different cases, dear. It's not like Kabuto had been hit by Kyuubi's tail.



Remember how much it took him?
he still healed the damage.
and it was one a week so how time much it took doesnt matter now does it?:rolleyes:
 
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´we didn't had a proper area in which he needed to focus his chakra into so that we can say once again´

Naruto focussed Kuramas chakra in his hand and gave it to the shinobi
which means all his chakra is focussed on his hands and with that is what chakra
control is for (Posted a scan above).

''Not only she linked as well a considerable amount of chakra to Katsuyu, she also healed the severe wounds of the Alliance guys''.


She got Help from a Summoning Jutsu which can also do things on her own but not at .
This is not the same as Naruto focussing and controlling biju chakra in
his hand and link it to other shinobi.

I leave it here atm I might go in depth if its needed.

But Naruto definitly surpassed sakura.
 

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Lol, argue with the manga dear, not with me.
I am not the one who wrote that from the back of my mind. All that's written is based on manga evidence.
I have read the manga and seen the manga evidence. And I acknowledge that she's a good ninja.


You just need to quit building her up to the point of being ludicrous.

This is why such characters like Sakura, Madara, Sasuke, Itachi, Minato and Hashirama get such shit.

Their fanboys wank them to extreme levels.
 

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People always mix up chakra transformation and chakra control. They are related but different skill set. Naruto has honed chakra transformations, his techniques revolve around them the same with sakura, she mastered chakra control and her specialty and techniques rely on it.
 

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People always mix up chakra transformation and chakra control. They are related but different skill set. Naruto has honed chakra transformations, his techniques revolve around them the same with sakura, she mastered chakra control and her specialty and techniques rely on it.
anything you do with chakra is chakra control(moulding, manipulation,nature and shape transformation). its all chakra control.
 

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kabuto have rasengan in stomach.
I don't quite get what you're trying to imply with Kabuto? Did I argued something about him?
Nary to has already surpassed sakura in chakra control. You have no proof sakura mastered the seal on the first try its possible she failed multiple times we don't know. However unlike sakura naruto is able to perfectly match other people's chakra types and ratios and also control the cloak around them. He is able to make bijuu bombs which requires perfect control and even then the rasengan is supposed to be the highest non bijuu form of chakra shaping a form of chakra control and manipulation sakura got outdone by naruto simple.
Did you even read what I wrote? So that I know if I am going to explain myself once again or not.
Also, what makes your theory about the seal flawed is that Orochimaru himself didn't recognize Tsunade's seal at first. And Tsunade first says she's been storing chakra for quite some time in the forehead, but back in part 1 we never knew the timeline. Now, with Sakura's master over it, we get the answer. As simple as that.
And if that would've been the case, Shizune, which also knows Tsunade's techniques, would've commented on Sakura's attempted fails, yet she didn't.

I have read the manga and seen the manga evidence. And I acknowledge that she's a good ninja.


You just need to quit building her up to the point of being ludicrous.

This is why such characters like Sakura, Madara, Sasuke, Itachi, Minato and Hashirama get such shit.

Their fanboys wank them to extreme levels.
I don't build her to no point. If that were the case, you would've seen me arguing false things about her, not backed by manga logic.

And also, don't put me in the same category. When you hear me say Sakura solos, that's when you can comment.

´we didn't had a proper area in which he needed to focus his chakra into so that we can say once again´

Naruto focussed Kuramas chakra in his hand and gave it to the shinobi
which means all his chakra is focussed on his hands and with that is what chakra
control is for (Posted a scan above).
Fair point. I forgot that part, my bad.

''Not only she linked as well a considerable amount of chakra to Katsuyu, she also healed the severe wounds of the Alliance guys''.


She got Help from a Summoning Jutsu which can also do things on her own but not at .
This is not the same as Naruto focussing and controlling biju chakra in
his hand and link it to other shinobi.

I leave it here atm I might go in depth if its needed.

But Naruto definitly surpassed sakura.
Here it's where you're wrong. Sakura doesn't get help from katsuyu, Katsuyu gets help from its summoner as in the very scan you posted, she states that because of Tsunade's weakened state she's unable to heal at full power. The reason has to do with the fact that Katsuyu is linked to the summoner's seal.
And as I said, we can say that they are equal, but to say he has surpassed, I considered flawed, since the statement stays true to the manga. Not to mention that the "pinnacle of chakra control" statement came right after Naruto did that thing with the SA.
 
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Look, guys, I hate Sakura because her character is bad, and she's a horrible trope. Kishi has done nothing but prove he's a little bit sexist with Sakura's character.

This here is sound logic and manga fact. Yeah, she used old manga pages, but everything is consistent.

However, I do think she is underestimating Naruto's current abilities, and I wouldn't say "at best he's on par." I'd say that's right in the middle. At best, Naruto is much better than Sakura, but he's more likely on par. At worst, Sakura is a little better than him.

Stop hating blindly, even if the character is worth hating. Because, while the OP might be a Sakura fan, I see no real bias here, and I've pointed out what I disagree with.
 

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I don't build her to no point. If that were the case, you would've seen me arguing false things about her, not backed by manga logic.

And also, don't put me in the same category. When you hear me say Sakura solos, that's when you can comment.
The moment you said "Sakura would be on par with EMS Sasuke and BM Naruto" You lost all credibility and were reduced to a Sakura wanker.
 
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