Can Minato beat Gaara in a desert?

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He doesn't need to keep his feet on the ground, no clue where you got that from.
Excuse me what? And you don't know where I'm getting that from? How about you look at every time Minato has fought. Last time I checked Minato is not Kaguya or Momoshiki that can levitated 24/7 without touching the floor once.
Case in point. He cannot fly
What you said didn't make sense in the slightest bit.
Like displayed when he fought obito he can use it to fly in the air so he can just juggle himself in the air endlessly and thus eventually catch him rock lee style.
He's never flew once when he fought Obito in fact his fought touched the ground several times this being one of them after he just used FTG:
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And Rock Lee style? What kind of headcanon is that? Lee needs to push off the ground before he's able to kick. And Minato can't do any physical arts that Rock lee can do. He didn't get the training or the physical energy to do so. Even neji can't use Lee's moves this thing has been confirmed since Part 1 that only lead succeeded besides Gai. Kakashi and Sasuke had to copy it and train just to use part of it.
He doesn't need a firmly placed kunai to teleport himself to it either, everyone here i assume is purposely nerfing minato so gaara can win which he wouldn't even have a chance in all reality when faced against the yellow flash.
Yes he does. Minato has never FTG himself to any location that his knife/formula hasn't been. Nobody is nerfing Minato, you're seriously overrating his capabilities. This is Minato against Gaara in the desert, so of course Gaara has the advantage to win if everywhere is covered in sand. Even Tobirama is losing but anywhere else besides the desert Tobirama wins. Doesn't matter how strong Minato is the desert is the desert. Like seriously wtf I thought you were gonna say something logical not something like this.
 

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Excuse me what? And you don't know where I'm getting that from? How about you look at every time Minato has fought. Last time I checked Minato is not Kaguya or Momoshiki that can levitated 24/7 without touching the floor once.
Case in point. He cannot fly
What you said didn't make sense in the slightest bit.

He's never flew once when he fought Obito in fact his fought touched the ground several times this being one of them after he just used FTG:
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And Rock Lee style? What kind of headcanon is that? Lee needs to push off the ground before he's able to kick. And Minato can't do any physical arts that Rock lee can do. He didn't get the training or the physical energy to do so. Even neji can't use Lee's moves this thing has been confirmed since Part 1 that only lead succeeded besides Gai. Kakashi and Sasuke had to copy it and train just to use part of it.

Yes he does. Minato has never FTG himself to any location that his knife/formula hasn't been. Nobody is nerfing Minato, you're seriously overrating his capabilities. This is Minato against Gaara in the desert, so of course Gaara has the advantage to win if everywhere is covered in sand. Even Tobirama is losing but anywhere else besides the desert Tobirama wins. Doesn't matter how strong Minato is the desert is the desert. Like seriously wtf I thought you were gonna say something logical not something like this.
Its completely clear now that you have no earthly clue about naruto at all. Minato can easily travel in the air endlessly as long as there are at least one kunai present.

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It doesn't matter what the terrain is, gaara loses because minato doesn't need to touch the ground, even if he had to he'd teleport away before gaara could utilize a offensive. Minato doesn't need a kunai to be on the ground, he can merely throw it upwards then teleport, utilizing multiple will only make this fight even more easier.

Meanwhile you've stated basically tobirama will lose because its not his terrain, however if you actually watched the show you'd know tobirama doesn't need any specific terrain because he can summon water anywhere he pleases.

[video=youtube;w_gc3bREk40]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_gc3bREk40[/video]

And of course i assume you didn't know either that sand is weak to water, making it both heavier and turn into mud which we all know gaara cant use.
 

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Its completely clear now that you have no earthly clue about naruto at all. Minato can easily travel in the air endlessly as long as there are at least one kunai present.

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It doesn't matter what the terrain is, gaara loses because minato doesn't need to touch the ground, even if he had to he'd teleport away before gaara could utilize a offensive. Minato doesn't need a kunai to be on the ground, he can merely throw it upwards then teleport, utilizing multiple will only make this fight even more easier.

Meanwhile you've stated basically tobirama will lose because its not his terrain, however if you actually watched the show you'd know tobirama doesn't need any specific terrain because he can summon water anywhere he pleases.

[video=youtube;w_gc3bREk40]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_gc3bREk40[/video]

And of course i assume you didn't know either that sand is weak to water, making it both heavier and turn into mud which we all know gaara cant use.
i love how mans went out of his way to edit a scan we all know full well you weren't talking about. But for further clarity(cuz he likes playing semantics) the gif you posted was FTG v2.
 

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Its completely clear now that you have no earthly clue about naruto at all. Minato can easily travel in the air endlessly as long as there are at least one kunai present.

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It is clearly that you have no grasp or concept on how to even read the manga let alone watch it. The concept of chakra also left you senile as well making your this post even more laughable than it already is. In order for Minato to even reach mid air in the first place his feet needs to touch the ground in the first place:
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And then after he used FTG to attack Tobi, his feet touched the ground again:
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So again what you're saying doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

It doesn't matter what the terrain is, gaara loses because minato doesn't need to touch the ground, even if he had to he'd teleport away before gaara could utilize a offensive. Minato doesn't need a kunai to be on the ground, he can merely throw it upwards then teleport, utilizing multiple will only make this fight even more easier.
You need to stop with this delusional concept that minato can't touch the ground because he clearly does. If that guy threw the kunai knife in the air to teleport he would fall down to his terminal velocity shortly after teleporting. And again you're neglecting the very common sense of stamina. Minato doesn't have the chakra to keep "constantly teleporting to the next kunai knife in the air" without burning through his chakra leading to his demise. At that point gaara wouldn't need to do anything because minato will inevitably fall to his demise. That's a dumb thing that even Minato wouldn't think of doing.
Meanwhile you've stated basically tobirama will lose because its not his terrain, however if you actually watched the show you'd know tobirama doesn't need any specific terrain because he can summon water anywhere he pleases.

[video=youtube;w_gc3bREk40]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_gc3bREk40[/video]
I've watched the show and I'm not gullible enough to use filler powers as a canon feat in a versus thread.
Canonically (meaning reality)he can't use Water Release: Water Colliding Wave just like he can't use Bringer of Darkness either because in the manga it's confirmed to be Hashirama's move.
In short that shit is fake.
And before I forget. Making a high level suiton on top of a rooftop is nothing compared to the sand that's in an entire desert.
And of course i assume you didn't know either that sand is weak to water, making it both heavier and turn into mud which we all know gaara cant use.
Well making assumptions is your problem in the first place. You assume that I didn't but in reality I know that Tobirama can't produce enough water to cover a whole desert in which Gaara controls. Because an even better Water style user than Tobirama from the Hozuki clan titled the 2nd Mizukage can use water style and oil which both happen to be Gaara's weakness, and yet Gaara still beat him in the desert.
The only thing that made that battle difficult in the first place is because the Steam Imp was too slippery to get held down by sand in which he needed his father's gold sand for help. Fortunately enough Tobirama doesn't even have nearly as much water as a Hozuki member let alone Gengetsu Hōzuki, or oil to do anything to Gaara in the desert.

Now I understand what kind of reasoning you have. Only Hashirama fans would use the anime fillers over the canon materials and say things like this. I probably know more about Tobirama than you and I know he doesn't beat Gaara in the desert.
 

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It is clearly that you have no grasp or concept on how to even read the manga let alone watch it. The concept of chakra also left you senile as well making your this post even more laughable than it already is. In order for Minato to even reach mid air in the first place his feet needs to touch the ground in the first place:
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And then after he used FTG to attack Tobi, his feet touched the ground again:
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So again what you're saying doesn't make any sense whatsoever.


You need to stop with this delusional concept that minato can't touch the ground because he clearly does. If that guy threw the kunai knife in the air to teleport he would fall down to his terminal velocity shortly after teleporting. And again you're neglecting the very common sense of stamina. Minato doesn't have the chakra to keep "constantly teleporting to the next kunai knife in the air" without burning through his chakra leading to his demise. At that point gaara wouldn't need to do anything because minato will inevitably fall to his demise. That's a dumb thing that even Minato wouldn't think of doing.

I've watched the show and I'm not gullible enough to use filler powers as a canon feat in a versus thread.
Canonically (meaning reality)he can't use Water Release: Water Colliding Wave just like he can't use Bringer of Darkness either because in the manga it's confirmed to be Hashirama's move.
In short that shit is fake.
And before I forget. Making a high level suiton on top of a rooftop is nothing compared to the sand that's in an entire desert.

Well making assumptions is your problem in the first place. You assume that I didn't but in reality I know that Tobirama can't produce enough water to cover a whole desert in which Gaara controls. Because an even better Water style user than Tobirama from the Hozuki clan titled the 2nd Mizukage can use water style and oil which both happen to be Gaara's weakness, and yet Gaara still beat him in the desert.
The only thing that made that battle difficult in the first place is because the Steam Imp was too slippery to get held down by sand in which he needed his father's gold sand for help. Fortunately enough Tobirama doesn't even have nearly as much water as a Hozuki member let alone Gengetsu Hōzuki, or oil to do anything to Gaara in the desert.

Now I understand what kind of reasoning you have. Only Hashirama fans would use the anime fillers over the canon materials and say things like this. I probably know more about Tobirama than you and I know he doesn't beat Gaara in the desert.
Hashirama fans would say he is immune to genjutsu to let him off the hook, if thier is a match of him VS itachi because he fought Madara all his life.
 

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three words. Oil, Summons, FTG.
Gaara can control all the minerals in the desert. He can conjure up an immense amount which Minato's oil is not capable of overwhelming. Minato cannot use flying thunder god, because gaara's automatic sand blocked V2 Raikage effortlessly. His markings are altered with sand shifting. Rasengan is useless.
 

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I've noticed that FTG can't mark chakra based substances or chakra infused substances. He can only teleport what he or his chakra are touching which costs him a lot of chakra. He'd run out of chakra long before Gaara would and die or run away and live to fight another day.
 

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three words. Oil, Summons, FTG.
Bro, it’s a whole desert. If it was somewhere else (minus shukaku) then Minato would win. But the whole desert man.
You do realize that Boss Toad can’t produce enough oil to cover a village let alone a desert?
In part 1 Gaara had enough chakra to cover a small forest in part 2 against Deidara it was a whole village.
Gaara creates quicksands bro, come on seriously think about it man.
 

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Oil should be a bad match for Gaara's sand.. but then by that logic, so should water but we see that wasn't the case when Gaara was able to manipulate his sand in the water during the Gokage combo on Madara. The combo of Oil + Water was the sand's weakness against that Mizukage so i'm not sure we can pick just one out of those 2 and say it would weaken the sand.

The fanboy in me says Gaara wrecks.. but i really can't shake the feeling that Minato could win. His shunshin is fast enough to bypass auto shield.. and rasengan vs armor of sand seems like a stomp for the former. ;-;
 
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I've noticed that FTG can't mark chakra based substances or chakra infused substances. He can only teleport what he or his chakra are touching which costs him a lot of chakra. He'd run out of chakra long before Gaara would and die or run away and live to fight another day.
this is false, he can mark anything he can physically touch.
Bro, it’s a whole desert. If it was somewhere else (minus shukaku) then Minato would win. But the whole desert man.
You do realize that Boss Toad can’t produce enough oil to cover a village let alone a desert?
In part 1 Gaara had enough chakra to cover a small forest in part 2 against Deidara it was a whole village.
Gaara creates quicksands bro, come on seriously think about it man.
Toad oil bullet is a jutsu, so unless youre saying bunta doesn't have the chakra necessary to do so he can in fact cover a desert. Not that he needs to since its only necessary to hit whatever Garra controls.

Quicksands? Bunta blitzed shikakku and dodged his air bullets. None of garra's large scale attacks have shown as speed comparable to said air bullets. and he doesn't have enough gourd sand to do anything significant to bunta. both of which types of sand can be slowed by bunta's oil.
 
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This is stupid.

Kisame vs Gaara
Location: a tank of water


Even with this stupid scenario of Minato fighting Gaara in the desert, I'd still take Minato more times than not over Gaara because of FTG v2.
 

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Toad oil bullet is a jutsu, so unless youre saying bunta doesn't have the chakra necessary to do so he can in fact cover a desert. Not that he needs to since its only necessary to hit whatever Garra controls.
No he doesn't. Because even a village is just a piece of a whole entire desert and during his fight with Deidara, Gaara has produce enough sand that is capable of covering a whole village.
So think that part through
Quicksands? Bunta blitzed shikakku and dodged his air bullets. None of garra's large scale attacks have shown as speed comparable to said air bullets. and he doesn't have enough gourd sand to do anything significant to bunta. both of which types of sand can be slowed by bunta's oil.
in the and Gaara's large scale attacks all blitzed the previous Kages who are a lot more faster than the Boss Toad:
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So not only is what you're saying false but you have a tendency to talk out of your ass so I'm not gonna take what you say seriously. Especially when you were foolish enough to say that Hashirama can redirect the a jubi beast ball all by himself even when he specifically stated in the manga that he will need help, then I can only imagine what you would say support your former first favorite character (hashirama being number #1) Minato.
 

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Bro, it’s a whole desert. If it was somewhere else (minus shukaku) then Minato would win. But the whole desert man.
You do realize that Boss Toad can’t produce enough oil to cover a village let alone a desert?
In part 1 Gaara had enough chakra to cover a small forest in part 2 against Deidara it was a whole village.
Gaara creates quicksands bro, come on seriously think about it man.
Yeah except he doesn't need to put oil on entire desert. It will only be used to counter large scale jutsu like sand sunami, ftg can handle the rest. Minato will try to get close in quickly or suddenly because he can't win from mid or long range. Can gaara stop him from coming close in? It will be like tobirama attacked madara in war. I think minato is too fast for him as i can't remember him reacting to anything on ftg's speed. If he has any such reaction feats then show them and i'll concede.
 

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No he doesn't. Because even a village is just a piece of a whole entire desert and during his fight with Deidara, Gaara has produce enough sand that is capable of covering a whole village.
So think that part through
i already said he only needs to hit the sand garra controls.

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Blitz shukaku:
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after already and 5 of said air bullets

and Gaara's large scale attacks all blitzed the previous Kages who are a lot more faster than the Boss Toad:
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1.Thats not a large scale attack. It was targeted( ), and its barely bigger than that of the kage themselves:
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2, their bodies are programmed only to react at that point so catching them in it when they themselves make no effort to dodge is moot:

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And 3. as per ususal you lack reading comprehension to note what i had said:
and he doesn't have enough gourd sand to do anything significant to bunta. both of which types of sand can be slowed by bunta's oil.
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Hmm would you look at that, all 3 scans show him using sand from his gourd Which he doesn't have enough to capture something the size of a boss toad.

Did you forget how his sand works?
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So not only is what you're saying false but you have a tendency to talk out of your ass so I'm not gonna take what you say seriously. Especially when you were foolish enough to say that Hashirama can redirect the a jubi beast ball all by himself even when he specifically stated in the manga that he will need help, then I can only imagine what you would say support your former first favorite character (hashirama being number #1) Minato.
Idk what hashirama ruffles you so. If you knew anything about me you know kakashi is my favorite character, always was always will be. IDk why i even waste my time replying to the known beep of this cite..

Oil should be a bad match for Gaara's sand.. but then by that logic, so should water but we see that wasn't the case when Gaara was able to manipulate his sand in the water during the Gokage combo on Madara. The combo of Oil + Water was the sand's weakness against that Mizukage so i'm not sure we can pick just one out of those 2 and say it would weaken the sand.

The fanboy in me says Gaara wrecks.. but i really can't shake the feeling that Minato could win. His shunshin is fast enough to bypass auto shield.. and rasengan vs armor of sand seems like a stomp for the former. ;-;
Nope, it was somting we know bunta in
 
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