[Question] Can Law be blitzed?

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If Sanji was faster, he should have been able to avoid that blow altogether.

And how does that discredit Vergo's speed?
what's the point of avoiding when he can block it easily he didn't know vergo would fracture his leg.

cuz as you said if Law was focusing he would dodged Vergo's attack.
 

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they made it at the same time. luffy didn't use gear 2. they did not say they used their top speed.

Smoker is no where near gear 2 luffy as i said he couldn't even see luffy.

sanji was faster than vergo and luffy is faster than sanji.



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I'm correcting myself from earlier when I said the same thing, but it turns out that was their fastest speed, quote on quote from Smoker

This of course means Luffy was using his fastest speed and his fastest speed is in G2. And how can he not see him... when he's moving right next to him?

I agree with the last part though.
 

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I'm correcting myself from earlier when I said the same thing, but it turns out that was their fastest speed, quote on quote from Smoker

This of course means Luffy was using his fastest speed and his fastest speed is in G2. And how can he not see him... when he's moving right next to him?

I agree with the last part though.

he wasn't in gear 2 in the anime and it doesn't seem like he was in the manga either. he's probably talking about luffy base speed, why would luffy waste energy running around in gear 2, when he only using gear 2 in fights for short periods of time
 

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he wasn't in gear 2 in the anime and it doesn't seem like he was in the manga either. he's probably talking about luffy base speed, why would luffy waste energy running around in gear 2, when he only using gear 2 in fights for short periods of time
He's been using it very casually since he entered the new world, there's no need for the whole squat and pose thing anymore, though he does it rarely... and he would be running in G2 if he was in a rush to get somewhere. I don't think he was in base, though you have a point about the anime.
 

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Vergo and Smoker have already speedblitzed Law.
 

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By blitz do you mean completely destroy him with no diff?
If so,
Dragon, Garp, Shiki, Teach, Kong, Newgate and Roger.
The weakest of them being Dragon imo.
 

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vergo needs to come back. hes too much of a beast to go out like that. hes a lot better than what law has shown in dressrosa.

and when it comes to speed / blitzer heres my opinion:

doffy>vergo>luffy>law
 

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And Vergo also nailed a hit that fractured Sanji's leg, and matched his kicks in the next page, showing their speed was on par.

Law was able to one-shot Vergo because Vergo no longer had Law's heart. Law was distracted by getting his heart back and because Vergo was squeezing his heart. It had nothing to do with Vergo's speed, but Law's focus. Vergo charging at Law in my scan, Vergo charging at Law in your scan, it's the same speed, the difference is, Law was paying attention this time.

Thts hitting speed not running speed agree sanji is faster then luffy in terms of moving
 

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vergo needs to come back. hes too much of a beast to go out like that. hes a lot better than what law has shown in dressrosa.

and when it comes to speed / blitzer heres my opinion:

doffy>vergo>luffy>law

No fair doffy and Fuji were tag teaming law while law was saving straw hats -_- not saying he could beat either tho U_U just saying tht hindered his performance which we didn't even c :'(
 

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what's the point of avoiding when he can block it easily he didn't know vergo would fracture his leg.

cuz as you said if Law was focusing he would dodged Vergo's attack.
What's the point of blocking an attack you can avoid?

That. Does. Not. Make. Vergo. Any. Slower.
Vergo and Smoker have already speedblitzed Law.
Er, no they didn't. Speed blitz is what Luffy did to Blueno, multiple times. What Smoker did was a normal grapple, not really blitzing.
By blitz do you mean completely destroy him with no diff?
If so,
Dragon, Garp, Shiki, Teach, Kong, Newgate and Roger.
The weakest of them being Dragon imo.
lol nah, blitzing means catching an enemy completely off-guard and striking a blow because of sheer speed. Think what Kizaru did to the Supernovas, or what Luffy did to Blueno in Gear 2.
Thts hitting speed not running speed agree sanji is faster then luffy in terms of moving

There are two kinds of speed, reaction time and movement. Hitting speed and movement speed fall into the same category because hitting something is just moving a body part with enough force to deal damage. If Sanji is faster in terms of moving, he's faster in terms of hitting. Both have been shown to deal blows that result in looking like your limbs have either disappeared in a blur, or multiplied, with moves like Jet blows and Spectre.
 

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lol nah, blitzing means catching an enemy completely off-guard and striking a blow because of sheer speed. Think what Kizaru did to the Supernovas, or what Luffy did to Blueno in Gear 2.

Ohhhh :p
In that case then Borsalino and Enel may have a chance. Although I don't think Enel could beat him.
 

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Smoker blitzed him in their fight...

Are you sure you're an avid Smoker fan?
My memory hasn't gotten that bad, I know what page you're talking about, trust me... but that's not the blitzing I'm talking about, I meant like the blitzing that Vergo tried on him
 

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My memory hasn't gotten that bad, I know what page you're talking about, trust me... but that's not the blitzing I'm talking about, I meant like the blitzing that Vergo tried on him

Blitzing is when you're too fast for the opponent to keep track. Smoker strangled Law within a matter of seconds!

Other than that... Top tiers.
 

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Smoker is nowhere near faster than Law......law blitz him without his heart
OT: Doffy or Above.....
 

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Blitzing is when you're too fast for the opponent to keep track. Smoker strangled Law within a matter of seconds!

Other than that... Top tiers.

Law kept track of Smoker the entire fight. It's hard to see because of the dark shading around his eyes, but when Smoker moved to grapple Law, you can see that his eyes had followed Smoker and Law was looking at him as he went around.
 

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Smoker is nowhere near faster than Law......law blitz him without his heart
OT: Doffy or Above.....

See this is the type of comments people will post when they don't actually read and just judge someone's strength by an outcome of a fight.

Smoker was actually chasing Law throughout the fight Law put up a boulder in the way to hide his last attack and had the boulder not been there Smoker wouldn't have been hit so you can say Law's strategy is better than Smoker's but not his speed especially considering Smoker's speed in his actual body is similar to Luffy's.

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See the fire Luffy had to set fire to the ground to keep up with Smoker...just saying.
 

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Are you guys retards? Claiming Smoker is faster than Luffy?

For one Caeser's lab is on a higher floor than the ground floor, so the anime was correct in its deduction that Luffy had to climb stairs in his no gears form in order to catch Smoker who could fly.

In no way Smoker who has been shown as nothing short as fodder is as fast as Luffy.

Need I remind you Luffy's speed feats.

In BASE, he disarmed Rebecca without his hands while still eating after a surprise attack. This is the same Rebecca that dodged Hakuba.

He outran Caeser's gastanet explosion.

Was able to save Kyros who was at point black range from Doffy's kick.

Those who believe Smoker could even get close to Luffy's speed are lost.
 

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Are you guys retards? Claiming Smoker is faster than Luffy?

For one Caeser's lab is on a higher floor than the ground floor, so the anime was correct in its deduction that Luffy had to climb stairs in his no gears form in order to catch Smoker who could fly.

In no way Smoker who has been shown as nothing short as fodder is as fast as Luffy.

Need I remind you Luffy's speed feats.

In BASE, he disarmed Rebecca without his hands while still eating after a surprise attack. This is the same Rebecca that dodged Hakuba.

He outran Caeser's gastanet explosion.

Was able to save Kyros who was at point black range from Doffy's kick.

Those who believe Smoker could even get close to Luffy's speed are lost.

Actually the image above you shows a perfectly straight path not a flight of stairs to be honest it sounds like you're just grasping at straws...and using the anime to try prove anything discredits you automatically.

It sounds to me you just dislike Smokers character so you are naturally going to immediately call him fodder when I'm assuming your favorite Luffy? is being compared to (Despite the fact Luffy is my favorite as well)

Not to mention those feats you posted are all debatable such as using Rebecca as a speed feat? She dodged purely on luck and CoO not her own speed in fact she was still actually hit. With Kyros I'm sure Luffy was right next to him when he saved him not to mention Luffy was speed blitzed by Doflamingo panels later.

Now I'm not saying Luffy at full speed isn't faster than Smoker but...it's not as much as you're implying Smoker has been portrayed as Luffy's equal so far in the Marines that ain't going to change soon.
 

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Actually the image above you shows a perfectly straight path not a flight of stairs to be honest it sounds like you're just grasping at straws...and using the anime to try prove anything discredits you automatically.

It sounds to me you just dislike Smokers character so you are naturally going to immediately call him fodder when I'm assuming your favorite Luffy? is being compared to (Despite the fact Luffy is my favorite as well)

Not to mention those feats you posted are all debatable such as using Rebecca as a speed feat? She dodged purely on luck and CoO not her own speed in fact she was still actually hit. With Kyros I'm sure Luffy was right next to him when he saved him not to mention Luffy was speed blitzed by Doflamingo panels later.

Now I'm not saying Luffy at full speed isn't faster than Smoker but...it's not as much as you're implying Smoker has been portrayed as Luffy's equal so far in the Marines that ain't going to change soon.

I'm sorry but what part of a different floor do you not understand? Let me explain it to you.

Caeser's lab on different floor.

Smoker can fly in straight line.

Luffy cannot.

Smoker travels shorter distance (implied by the flying part)

Luffy travels longer distance, sets the ground alight and gets there at the same time.

As for me clutching at straws - bit hypocritical from you mate (see bold).

When you're assuming she has CoO and saying phrases like "I'm sure" you lose face.
 
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