Can Itachi really defeat Minato ?

[L O S T]

Obito isn't that fluent with genjutsu

Regardless if mianto doesn't use sage mode at the start of the fight he is screwed he is going against an opponent he knows nothing about he looked obito in the eye he got lucky obito wasn't a genjutsu specialist and obito doesn't have tsukuyomi

And before you say it itachi and others in the village know about minatos arsenal you fail to see what makes itachi dangerous

Obito made sure he never used kamui around itachi he used it around others but never itachi
In the end itachi vs minato is a 50/50 but like I said if main to looks him in the eye like an idiot or finger he is screwed

Good point but even if Minato was trapped under a genjutsu, there are self techniques to break it. Like how Naruto tried, but eventually failed because of emotions. Tsukuyomi however is risky, so a shadow clone diversion is the best option as doujutsu cannot interpret which is the original due to evenly split chakra. Also, Kakashi used it to escape Itachi's tsukuyomi during the gaara retrieval arc.

 

[Dizzldot]

Minato solos

 

[L O S T]

Minato solos

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Easily the best looking character

 

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Easily the best looking character

Man knows how to style himself​

 

[Dantе]

• Itachi is exceptionally good at genjutsu. He's not like fodder Tobito. Minato can fall under genjutsu if he looks at any part of his body. And if Itachi uses Tsukuyomi, Minato gets blitzed faster than Hiraishin.
• What's the point of those reflexes if he can't even touch Itachi in his Susanoo. Besides, even when not in his Susanoo, Minato can never tell if he's real of a crow clone.
• The keyword here is if he marks Itachi... which is not gonna happen. I mean, what's stopping Itachi from using his Totsuka and end it in next shot? Minato doesn't have a one-shot-jutsu whatsoever.
• Did you forget Yata Mirror?

Yata Mirror provides 360 protection as seen here:

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Also, Itachi can react faster than Hiraishin. Recall: In fight vs. Sasuke, Itachi activated Susanoo in less time than it takes lightning to strike. That's less than 1/1000 of a second.
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[Dizzldot]

• Itachi is exceptionally good at genjutsu. He's not like fodder Tobito. Minato can fall under genjutsu if he looks at any part of his body. And if Itachi uses Tsukuyomi, Minato gets blitzed faster than Hiraishin.
• What's the point of those reflexes if he can't even touch Itachi in his Susanoo. Besides, even when not in his Susanoo, Minato can never tell if he's real of a crow clone.
• The keyword here is if he marks Itachi... which is not gonna happen. I mean, what's stopping Itachi from using his Totsuka and end it in next shot? Minato doesn't have a one-shot-jutsu whatsoever.
• Did you forget Yata Mirror?

Yata Mirror provides 360 protection as seen here:

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Also, Itachi can react faster than Hiraishin. Recall: In fight vs. Sasuke, Itachi activated Susanoo in less time than it takes lightning to strike. That's less than 1/1000 of a second.
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He can't use genjutsu with any part of his body calm down buddy, also he saw karin coming wight he whole anticipation thing sasuke was selling his own jutsu out it was just dramatic effect. 1 rasengan to the torso is enough to put itachi down for good.

Honestly minato's best idea is outlast itachi by attack with long range forcing him to keep up susanoo draining his reserves quickly.
BM minato would stomp tho

 

[Dantе]

He can't use genjutsu with any part of his body calm down buddy, also he saw karin coming wight he whole anticipation thing sasuke was selling his own jutsu out it was just dramatic effect. 1 rasengan to the torso is enough to put itachi down for good.

Honestly minato's best idea is outlast itachi by attack with long range forcing him to keep up susanoo draining his reserves quickly.
BM minato would stomp tho

Delusional, aren't we?

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And do you think Itachi will just sit there with Susanoo activated and do nothing? :lol​

 

[Dizzldot]

Delusional, aren't we?

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And do you think Itachi will just sit there with Susanoo activated and do nothing? :lol​

Comparing early part 2 naruto to minato is so far fetched you're reaching for feats lol, and actually yeah itachi will try to tag him but miss every time due to ftg, worst comes to worst minato gets a lucky ftg on itachi and flees the battle then teleports to him whenever he wants to kill him

 

[Dantе]

Comparing early part 2 naruto to minato is so far fetched you're reaching for feats lol, and actually yeah itachi will try to tag him but miss every time due to ftg, worst comes to worst minato gets a lucky ftg on itachi and flees the battle then teleports to him whenever he wants to kill him

I need some mangafacts to comprehend with what you are saying.

And mangafacts are not outdated lol​

 

[L O S T]

• Itachi is exceptionally good at genjutsu. He's not like fodder Tobito. Minato can fall under genjutsu if he looks at any part of his body. And if Itachi uses Tsukuyomi, Minato gets blitzed faster than Hiraishin.
• What's the point of those reflexes if he can't even touch Itachi in his Susanoo. Besides, even when not in his Susanoo, Minato can never tell if he's real of a crow clone.
• The keyword here is if he marks Itachi... which is not gonna happen. I mean, what's stopping Itachi from using his Totsuka and end it in next shot? Minato doesn't have a one-shot-jutsu whatsoever.
• Did you forget Yata Mirror?

Yata Mirror provides 360 protection as seen here:

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Also, Itachi can react faster than Hiraishin. Recall: In fight vs. Sasuke, Itachi activated Susanoo in less time than it takes lightning to strike. That's less than 1/1000 of a second.
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Is that 360 to you ? You're reading it selectively. Also, Minato has a counter.

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What's stopping Itachi is a space time barrier that teleports to the marking area. Minato doesn't even need to involve himself, he can just send out his shadow clones to FTG simultaneously. He can get back at the susanoo's weakness or underground ambush since Itachi's susanoo is not a perfect one. The funny named jutsu is the one that gave minato the nick name the yellow flash. The one that took out a whole platoon of shinobis.

 

[Dizzldot]

I need some mangafacts to comprehend with what you are saying.

And mangafacts are not outdated lol​

yours are lol using a feat on a character who wouldn't even be considered mid tier anymore

 

[King Of Pop]

your genjutsu counter is a fail. minato is not going to be teleporting constantly and like others have said he appeared to have looked obito deadass in the eye, if that was itachi, minato would have been tortured in tsukuyomi

 

[Styles]

I think it was stated in Ay vs sasuke that MS is useless against speedsters referring to genjutsu and amaterasu. Since none of them knew about susano other than ohnoki who sasuke fought later. And the reason was that the chakra build up that is required for said jutsus give them away as if minato senses a chakra build up, he can teleport away before attack lands be it genjutsu or amaterasu. And minato evaded amaterasu canonically even after being hit by it in fight against jubito. So amaterasu is not an issue for him. This is jus a theory though based on statements from manga.

Even madara had to catch Ay and hold him before he could put him in genjutsu but that's not important, more important is Ay's comment. "of all people for me to fall prey to sharingan's illusions" obviously he didn't expect to fall for genjutsu with his speed. And as for reflexes, minato's reflexes are on par with v2 Ay. I think cee stated that in fight against sasuke as well.

No Ay said nothing like that he said something like a mere Sharingan can't take him down.

Cee said his nerves and stuff was on par with the yellow flash plus he have lightning release armour to boost his reflex and transmission speed.

Even with MS Ay had to amp up to V2 to counter it with his shunshin(possibly the precog) because they didn't know what his abilities was.

Problem is Minato have to be in a mode to sense chakra Kurama even told him to switch modes so he can start sensing Naruto.

I'm not underestimating Itachi, i just feel like he's being overestimated.



Amazing points. Really well thought out.



Genjutsu needs a stationary target, hence the reason why Shee was caught by Sasuke's genjutsu, because he let his guard down. If genjutsu was effective use, as my friend Oblivionx pointed it out, Sasuke would've used it on Ay. You see, Amaterasu is also see on sight technique, where flames are created on sight but ay dodged it like it was nothing. With that as a base, we can conclude that amaterasu & tsukuyomi have the same timing.

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No, you're misunderstanding. As i've stated before- minato concluded that battle with obtio was a matter of speed. If you're moving at a fast pace, what use would a genjutsu offer with all the movement ? The genjutsu affect the cerebral cortex of a shinobi, so you really need to look them in the eyes if you're going to put them under it, or any other ways. But in this case, Minato is a speed demon, so he can just move swiftly to avoid it, or just use shadow clone as a diversion and then ambush Itachi who is concentrating on putting the shadow clone on genjutsu. And again, when you're dealing with tsukuyomi, the side effects are too risky not to be ignored.

Well yes it was a battle of speed but all the times that they was eye to eye Obito could have used genjutsu on Minato that's what i'm basically saying. Also Itachi would do the same he always using shadow clones or crow clones in a fight so Minato would have his hands full also.

The side effects is only risky if Minato can break Tsukuyomi which he can't other than that the only risk is strain on his eye's.

 

[L O S T]

your genjutsu counter is a fail. minato is not going to be teleporting constantly and like others have said he appeared to have looked obito deadass in the eye, if that was itachi, minato would have been tortured in tsukuyomi

I am really tired of repeating myself all over this thread , so pls read the points that i've posted. If that doesn't answer it, then sorry man.

Well yes it was a battle of speed but all the times that they was eye to eye Obito could have used genjutsu on Minato that's what i'm basically saying. Also Itachi would do the same he always using shadow clones or crow clones in a fight so Minato would have his hands full also.

The side effects is only risky if Minato can break Tsukuyomi which he can't other than that the only risk is strain on his eye's.

Well there's always summoning. Damn, i guess this can go on forever & ever lol. I'm kinda tired so i'm going off line. Regardless it was nice debating.

 

[Im Still Robin]

2016 and people still think Minato can win against Itachi

I revived it

Minato vs Itachi has been edo tensei!

Now, I have a question .. would you prefer Minato to use BM or not?

 

[Dantе]

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Is that 360 to you ? You're reading it selectively. Also, Minato has a counter.

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What's stopping Itachi is a space time barrier that teleports to the marking area. Minato doesn't even need to involve himself, he can just send out his shadow clones to FTG simultaneously. He can get back at the susanoo's weakness or underground ambush since Itachi's susanoo is not a perfect one. The funny named jutsu is the one that gave minato the nick name the yellow flash. The one that took out a whole platoon of shinobis.

It says "without a physical form". YM is formless, so it can be used to protect 360 degrees, even from the below. So underground vulnerability is not a thing.​

 

[Im Still Robin]

It's blatantly obvious Itachi would defeat Minato. What you're misunderstanding, is that FTG is instant, but Minato's striking speed isn't. Which is why Kirābī was capable of intercepting Minato's attempt at submission. You must be registered for see images Itachi is tiers above Kirābī, as seen when he utterly clowned him in their confrontation, not only did he out-speed Kirābī, but a KCM Naruto as well; Itachi even had to tip Kirābī that he was behind him in order to react properly. You must be registered for see images Itachi would destroy Minato, due to simple reaction speed, and Genjutsu. Nothing else needs to be factored in here, because it would be even more of a stomp.

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You seriously compared an entire edo tensei with no restrictions, stamina, full chakra, etc. A fighting machine, delusional.

You seriously think Itachi being behind Bee makes him better than Minato XD basically that's saying Itachi's speed > FTG

 

[Im Still Robin]

I swear they think Itachi is so invincible with yata... bro Susanoo literally has a weakness, yes it's covered with armor but that ish can be and have been blasted off like paper.

Itachi is not invincible and sharingan genjutsu won't work lmao he's a hokage like at least state Koto (which is stored in Naruto or was) or Tsukuyomi (which he has sage mode/ma and pa)

What's Itachi counter against frog genjutsu again? Itachi is praised for his genjutsu but is prone to it as well.

 

[YellowFang]

Look at my joining date,

I've been defending Minato in this battle since day 1... But, 'Can Itachi defeat Minato...?'
Yes, he can if he plays all of his cards perfectly.

This battle will be decided upon two things,
- Itachi getting FTG-tagged
- Minato falling in Genjutsu

But, Genjutsu can be broken and FTG-tag can't be undone so Minato has higher chance of winning.. Simple!