Can Itachi really defeat Minato ?

[Uchihakil]

Why should I try harder when you can't give me an answer to Sage mode Minato?
And if were gonna do Minato vs Itachi, lets include their full abilities what you scared of bruh?

You the scared dude tryna give him abilities that he got after his death, cuz he was too fodder to fight in the war that his ass needed an upgrade, this is alive minato vs alive itachi.

Minato himself said he does'nt use SM in battle cuz it takes too long to need sage chakra, like itachi's gonna let him knead chakra, he'll lit his ass on ama if he tries molding chakra or senjutsu, he tries summoning frogs to stall, and they end up dead in less than a second with ama.

Itachi aint letting him do jack

 

[shelke]

I feel you bruh, they think minato is the special character than can dispel genjutsu when chakra monsters/sensors/kage level characters could'nt

Exactly. 3 Tomoe Genjutsu is more than enough to suppress Kurama even and take the rest of the tailed beasts under control. How can Minato do better? Orochimaru and Shee are both Genjutsu experts and look what 3 Tomoe Genjutsu did to them. Bee couldn't break out of Sasuke's or Itachi's Genjutsu either. Hachibi had to step in both times.

Deidara, despite training his eye, fell to Genjutsu every single time. Albeit he had trained his eye. Minato breaking it when Genjutsu experts couldn't is the joke of the century. Minato fans being typical again. Who is surprised? This guy runs on fan-fictions. Might as well throw this one in as well.

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Orochimaru not being able to escape.
Chee not being able to escape.
Bee not being able to escape.

All you need is a decent memory.

 

[LoZelda101]

breaking genjutsu =/= break visual genjutsu.

jiraiya admitted he didn't know that much about genjutsu, in comparison to chiyo who had lvls of exp dealing with it. you can break genjutsu by disrupting your own like jiraiya said but with visual genjutsu you must have sharingan to see through it or have someone or something disrupt it for you with their own chakra which is what killer B and chiyo both said. the only problem thou for me personally is that it makes it more or less unbeatable which doesn't make sense powerlvl wise. that would mean a fodder sarada with 3t could GG hashirama if she wanted to with genjutsu. there has to be some loop hole to it. I think sagemode/curse mark adds chakra into the user which disrupted the genjutsu.

 

[shelke]

breaking genjutsu =/= break visual genjutsu.

jiraiya admitted he didn't know that much about genjutsu, in comparison to chiyo who had lvls of exp dealing with it. you can break genjutsu by disrupting your own like jiraiya said but with visual genjutsu you must have sharingan to see through it or have someone or something disrupt it for you with their own chakra which is what killer B and chiyo both said. the only problem thou for me personally is that it makes it more or less unbeatable which doesn't make sense powerlvl wise. that would mean a fodder sarada with 3t could GG hashirama if she wanted to with genjutsu. there has to be some loop hole to it. I think sagemode/curse mark adds chakra into the user which disrupted the genjutsu.

Hashirama easily uses clone feints. He isn't getting caught to begin with. So, no. Ocular Genjutsu is pretty OP. It's just the way it is.

 

[Tyris]

Why should I try harder when you can't give me an answer to Sage mode Minato?
And if were gonna do Minato vs Itachi, lets include their full abilities what you scared of bruh?

Fap facts lol

Minato himself says otherwise

 

[TillIFoundOut]

You the scared dude tryna give him abilities that he got after his death, cuz he was too fodder to fight in the war that his ass needed an upgrade, this is alive minato vs alive itachi.

Minato himself said he does'nt use SM in battle cuz it takes too long to need sage chakra, like itachi's gonna let him knead chakra, he'll lit his ass on ama if he tries molding chakra or senjutsu, he tries summoning frogs to stall, and they end up dead in less than a second with ama.

Itachi aint letting him do jack

Minato avoids all of Itachi's attacks, Itachi doesn't And alive vs alive, Itachi loses because he has weak stamina, Susano aint doing shit when Gamabunta drop on it

 

[LoZelda101]

Hashirama easily uses clone feints. He isn't getting caught to begin with. So, no. Ocular Genjutsu is pretty OP. It's just the way it is.

Right, but that's against typical uchiha's. what about itachi? someone who instantly solo glance someone the moment they look at his eyes? that's what he did to deidara before he even made his first jutsu. and if you look at kabuto in the cave, the entire time he talks to itachi with his head down before they even begin fighting. cause he know he'll get gen blitz'ed the moment he looks.

 

[Uchihakil]

Minato avoids all of Itachi's attacks, Itachi doesn't And alive vs alive, Itachi loses because he has weak stamina, Susano aint doing shit when Gamabunta drop on it

Sick itachi with piss poor vision reacted to kirin (an attack that moves at the speed of lightning), itachi will surely erect a susano with a sword up bunta's ass before bunta gets the chance of squashing'em

 

[shelke]

Right, but that's against typical uchiha's. what about itachi? someone who instantly solo glance someone the moment they look at his eyes? that's what he did to deidara before he even made his first jutsu. and if you look at kabuto in the cave, the entire time he talks to itachi with his head down before they even begin fighting. cause he know he'll get gen blitz'ed the moment he looks.

It's same for all Uchihas. Itachi's Sharingan Genjutsu gains power with Mangekyou Sharingan. Same with Shisui. Only Sasuke's MS Genjutsu lacks the ability to control time and put conditions on it. Uchihas were feared for a reason. The Clan could control Bijuus with 3 Tomoe (bar Kurama) for crying out loud.

Kabuto had his lids closed the whole time. Itachi had to raise them to cast Genjutsu when he was stuck in the Izanami loop. However, your point is very important as he had his lids closed to guard against Sharingan Genjutsu. This means, Senjutsu users aren't safe from it either. It's a myth.

Sick itachi with piss poor vision reacted to kirin (an attack that moves at the speed of lightning), itachi will surely erect a susano with a sword up bunta's ass before bunta gets the chance of squashing'em

Bunta is put under 3 T Genjutsu and humiliated. Grown Itachi doesn't need any Ms ability to beat this guy. If teenage Bee can react to him with ease, then all Uchihas in part two are much, much faster.

 

[Uchihakil]

It's same for all Uchihas. Itachi's Sharingan Genjutsu gains power with Mangekyou Sharingan. Same with Shisui. Only Sasuke's MS Genjutsu lacks the ability to control time and put conditions on it. Uchihas were feared for a reason. The Clan could control Bijuus with 3 Tomoe (bar Kurama) for crying out loud.

Kabuto had his lids closed the whole time. Itachi had to raise them to cast Genjutsu when he was stuck in the Izanami loop. However, your point is very important as he had his lids closed to guard against Sharingan Genjutsu. This means, Senjutsu users aren't safe from it either. It's a myth.



Bunta is put under 3 T Genjutsu and humiliated. Grown Itachi doesn't need any Ms ability to beat this guy. If teenage Bee can react to him with ease, then all Uchihas in part two are much, much faster.

Actually that was a counter for food carter destroyer, rn I'm sleepy and I got a test tomorrow , so lemme leave you curve dem minato fans

 

[TillIFoundOut]

It's same for all Uchihas. Itachi's Sharingan Genjutsu gains power with Mangekyou Sharingan. Same with Shisui. Only Sasuke's MS Genjutsu lacks the ability to control time and put conditions on it. Uchihas were feared for a reason. The Clan could control Bijuus with 3 Tomoe (bar Kurama) for crying out loud.

Kabuto had his lids closed the whole time. Itachi had to raise them to cast Genjutsu when he was stuck in the Izanami loop. However, your point is very important as he had his lids closed to guard against Sharingan Genjutsu. This means, Senjutsu users aren't safe from it either. It's a myth.



Bunta is put under 3 T Genjutsu and humiliated. Grown Itachi doesn't need any Ms ability to beat this guy. If teenage Bee can react to him with ease, then all Uchihas in part two are much, much faster.

At that point Minato can either break Bunta out, or solo Itachi since he's busy with genjutsu on Bunta, or Itachi dies from poor stamina

 

[VVolfVVarrior]

Eh you guys understand that when Itachi uses susanno he is only making it easier for Minato to tag him ? I mean he just need to tag avatar and drop them somewher shitty. If he could teleport Kyuubi then susanno is easy peasy.
And its not like Minato was born with FTG. Hell it was experimental jutsu at the end of war. That means he probably become jonin without FTG. Which he probably made thanks to Kushinas mother teaching him seals.
Yes Itachi is genius but same was said about Minato. And if genjutsu was so op and so easy than everyone would shit on everything else and study genjutsu or fuinjutsu i mean breaking reality.
Minato could easily used Sage mode and with closed eyes fighting Itachi.

 

[shelke]

Actually that was a counter for food carter destroyer, rn I'm sleepy and I got a test tomorrow , so lemme leave you curve dem minato fans

It's better to simply leave facts and bail out. Minato's fan-fictions come in serial format; they never run out.

Good luck on your test.

At that point Minato can either break Bunta out, or solo Itachi since he's busy with genjutsu on Bunta, or Itachi dies from poor stamina

Show me proof of anyone breaking a summon out of Genjutsu.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Not alive Hitachi...even though he wasn't going all out against Hebi Sasuke he was still losing a lot of steam...

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Minato can't beat itachi unless itachi Is nerfed, if by chance minato avoids being genjutsud he has absolutely nothing for susanoo. If he has him tagged maybe he can warp inside? He could also theoritcally warp the thing like the bijuu dama but he'd only be moving him. Realistically itachi takes it pretty handily imo

 

[shelke]

Not alive Hitachi...even though he wasn't going all out against Hebi Sasuke he was still losing a lot of steam...

He had his chakra halved (almost) twice because of crow clones and still he did all that.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Five pages. :elmo:

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Isn't this the same guy who couldn't get a drop on Bee and Raikage because Teenage Bee proved too fast for him, was constantly looking into Obito's eyes and hasn't displayed any out of the world reflex action and speed feats? Thought so. The over-rated, nearly featless character in the entire manga bar his Edo outing, for which, Tobirama and Naruto came up with strategies when the Jubi was around. How amusing.

I remember how he stood around like a baffled idiot and failed (with another KCM clone) to even body flicker away and save Naruto (Sasuke covered more distance and saved Naruto), but instead, got kicked away hilariously. Tobirama came to the rescue the second time and took the exploding orb away. Sasuke had already formed a Susanno, whilst Minato was staring into the distance ... thinking ... What great feats! Certainly those that cannot be beaten.

I love the fact how you believe FTG to be a counter for Genjutsu. Lovely. Also, Ocular Genjutsu cannot be broken by Genjutsu Kai, otherwise, Orochimaru and Shee (genjutsu experts) wouldn't have been humiliated with 3 Tomoe Genjutsus. Tsukuyomi isn't even needed.

Look at that adorable Senjutsu references, when Minato himself claims that he suckles on a thumb there. How long did it even last despite taking him forver to knead it? About 5 seconds!

Older, 3 Tomoe Itachi beats Minato comfortabily. MS is over-kill.



A single ninja has broken Ocular Genjutsu? Let's see those scans when both the databook and the manga disagree.

That very happen killer bee had already already had his sword pointing backwards

 

[Dizzldot]

Exactly. 3 Tomoe Genjutsu is more than enough to suppress Kurama even and take the rest of the tailed beasts under control. How can Minato do better? Orochimaru and Shee are both Genjutsu experts and look what 3 Tomoe Genjutsu did to them. Bee couldn't break out of Sasuke's or Itachi's Genjutsu either. Hachibi had to step in both times.

Deidara, despite training his eye, fell to Genjutsu every single time. Albeit he had trained his eye. Minato breaking it when Genjutsu experts couldn't is the joke of the century. Minato fans being typical again. Who is surprised? This guy runs on fan-fictions. Might as well throw this one in as well.



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Orochimaru not being able to escape.
Chee not being able to escape.
Bee not being able to escape.

All you need is a decent memory.

Bee did escape it was a simple genjutsu he broke out of, oro got one shotted but who knows if it was tsukiyomi or not, idk about chee. once again lack of proof isn't proof for you cause thats a fallacy you should know that if you went to college and took a 100 level philosophy class

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Ocular Genjutsus cannot be dispelled with Genjutsu Kai. It's ridiculous how Minato fans believe he breaks them.

Okay please provide proof of that claim because I know nowhere in a day the book says that nowhere in the manga says that or even implies that so please show it is proved