Byakuya vs Urahara

[TheHokage]

When did I ever say byakuya was faster than urahara u counterd all my statements more like I counterd everything y'all said.

I did not yoroichi is not faster than byakuya there even if she is faster show me proff when they wer in ss they wer just matching each other.

Yea aizen said urahara would have killed him kno y cuz aizen let his guard down he could care less about getting hit urahara him self said aizen let his gaurs down he was never tricked by anything.

Creat a sky cannon? Wat ever that is

Urahara has a move similar to getsuga tensho so lol war does that mean? Getsuga tensho never got threw byakuya petals so I don't get Wat u going at.

U sir have failed big time

You failed twice there actually Yourichi is faster since they weren't trying to match each other since...wait for it... she was trying to get Ichigo out safely and Byakuya wanted to kill him so why would he just allow her to escape when he wanted to kill both of them unless he couldn't catch her.

Actually Ichigo's Getsuga Tensho did get through Byakuya petals read or watch when Ichigo fires one through his Shikai nearly taking his arm off, and just because the attack is similar it doesn't mean it has the same affects, lol that's like the first thing you should know.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

You failed twice there actually Yourichi is faster since they weren't trying to match each other since...wait for it... she was trying to get Ichigo out safely and Byakuya wanted to kill him so why would he just allow her to escape when he wanted to kill both of them unless he couldn't catch her.

Actually Ichigo's Getsuga Tensho did get through Byakuya petals read or watch when Ichigo fires one through his Shikai nearly taking his arm off, and just because the attack is similar it doesn't mean it has the same affects, lol that's like the first thing you should know.

Ur talking about his shikai his petals won't even garuding him ichigo blast came out of no where byakuya won't expecting that but when he went bankai ichigo getsuga tensho never got threw.

Read the manga or watch the show byakuya said he lost interest in them they wer not really a threat to SS so he let them get away.

The effect of the attack won't matter it's not getting threw his petals urahara shikai don't hold that kind of power.

 

[home]

Lol u mad hahaha. Wat they say don't mean nonthing just to let u kno.It's all a guess

so your opinion means more then 20 other people? so your arrogant and retarded. just admit it, your wrong and you know it.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

so your opinion means more then 20 other people? so your arrogant and retarded. just admit it, your wrong and you know it.

I'm just here to show people that byakuya has a chance an urahara wont win easy. He Probly won't win at all doe.

Wrong I could say the same to u y don't u admit byakuya would win?

 

[Zeref]

i say Kisuke

 

[home]

I'm just here to show people that byakuya has a chance an urahara wont win easy. He Probly won't win at all doe.

Wrong I could say the same to u y don't u admit byakuya would win?

because i am backed up by the manga and 20 other peoples opinion, you are backed up by your own massive ego, admit it your wrong

 

[bl4ckJack]

Lol u mad hahaha. Wat they say don't mean nonthing just to let u kno.It's all a guess

so your opinion means more then 20 other people? so your arrogant and retarded. just admit it, your wrong and you know it.

Ahh ! u just dont understand ... but i know its natural for a dumb kiddo like u .. its okay .. nd i am not mad at U ... ur too stupid to to be mad

btw truth is ... as home said

 

[~Deidara~]

Well, assuming Urahara won't use his Bankai (which we have no idea how powerful it is) I think it would be close. They're both very smart in my opinion.

Does everyone forget this scene?

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THAT was pretty smart to me. I never saw that coming. Not to mention figuring out that Zomari's (the Espada he fought) ability Amor could be repeled with Kido. He is VERY intelligent, and I think he could stand on the same level of intelligence as Urahara.

Also, Byakuya is definitely much faster than Kisuke (let's face it)

I think it would be close, and maybe a tie. I love both characters and I am not a Byakuya fanboy (I'm kind of a Toshiro fanboy <3 ), but I came just to prove the intelligence factor here

 

[home]

Well, assuming Urahara won't use his Bankai (which we have no idea how powerful it is) I think it would be close. They're both very smart in my opinion.

Does everyone forget this scene?

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THAT was pretty smart to me. I never saw that coming. Not to mention figuring out that Zomari's (the Espada he fought) ability Amor could be repeled with Kido. He is VERY intelligent, and I think he could stand on the same level of intelligence as Urahara.

Also, Byakuya is definitely much faster than Kisuke (let's face it)

I think it would be close, and maybe a tie. I love both characters and I am not a Byakuya fanboy (I'm kind of a Toshiro fanboy <3 ), but I came just to prove the intelligence factor here

lol im sorry but there is no way byakuya is as smart as urahara, it has been stated time and time again that urahara is the smartest person in both the world of the living and dead, aizen said so, with the aizen ordeal urahara planned so far ahead and was so preciscly right that it was crazy, id love to see byakuya do that.

about the speed thing imo urahara is quite a bit faster as byakuya wasnt able to keep up with even a bankai ichigo, and bankai+hollow ichigo couldnt keep up with aizen were as urahara could, which means that urahara is probably faster than byakuya.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

because i am backed up by the manga and 20 other peoples opinion, you are backed up by your own massive ego, admit it your wrong

Ur backed up by the manga wer at please let me kno. Naw some other people said byakuya would win as well.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Ahh ! u just dont understand ... but i know its natural for a dumb kiddo like u .. its okay .. nd i am not mad at U ... ur too stupid to to be mad

btw truth is ... as home said

Just don't type no more u wack.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

lol im sorry but there is no way byakuya is as smart as urahara, it has been stated time and time again that urahara is the smartest person in both the world of the living and dead, aizen said so, with the aizen ordeal urahara planned so far ahead and was so preciscly right that it was crazy, id love to see byakuya do that.

about the speed thing imo urahara is quite a bit faster as byakuya wasnt able to keep up with even a bankai ichigo, and bankai+hollow ichigo couldnt keep up with aizen were as urahara could, which means that urahara is probably faster than byakuya.

First off urahara lucky aizen let himself get hit in the first place.

Byakuya himself can keep up wit ichigo he just has that much experience that's the reason he went senkei to fight him sword to sword cuz his petals could not keep up..

Wer does it show urahara keeping up with aizen...at Wat point wer aizen an urahara having a speed battle like 1 trying to out run another? Please let me kno all I remember is urahara getting a beat down.

 

[home]

First off urahara lucky aizen let himself get hit in the first place.

Byakuya himself can keep up wit ichigo he just has that much experience that's the reason he went senkei to fight him sword to sword cuz his petals could not keep up..

Wer does it show urahara keeping up with aizen...at Wat point wer aizen an urahara having a speed battle like 1 trying to out run another? Please let me kno all I remember is urahara getting a beat down.

are you really still going?

it doesnt matter wether he was lucky, urahara saw that ichigo was probably gonna give aizen a challenge, he then guessed that if he became weak th hogyoku would reject aizen. by putting these two things together he realized that the only way to defeat aizen was to create a kido that would seal aizen when he weakened, and he knew that this would happen as he forsaw the power ichigo as going to gain. know if planning that far forward and inventing a kido that could stop the most powerful villan in bleach-verse isnt smart i really dont know what is.

and fine even if he can keep up with a bankai ichigo (just) he definetly couldnt keep up with a hollow ichigo which as i said before was not able to keep up with aizen, who urahara was able to keep up with.

when did they fight? when aizen appeared before urahara in a flash and in that time urahara was able to use an inflatable gigai, diappear behind aizen, reappear and blast him with a string off high level kido


oh and one more thing, aizen said that urahara surpassed him without the hogyoku now then, do you really think that byakuya is stronger than someone who was able to incapacitate 2 captains each in a second (an aizen without the hogyoku did this too hitsugaya and Sajin and aizen said urahara surpassed him so urahara would be able to this)

 

[kotoamatsukami]

are you really still going?

it doesnt matter wether he was lucky, urahara saw that ichigo was probably gonna give aizen a challenge, he then guessed that if he became weak th hogyoku would reject aizen. by putting these two things together he realized that the only way to defeat aizen was to create a kido that would seal aizen when he weakened, and he knew that this would happen as he forsaw the power ichigo as going to gain. know if planning that far forward and inventing a kido that could stop the most powerful villan in bleach-verse isnt smart i really dont know what is.

and fine even if he can keep up with a bankai ichigo (just) he definetly couldnt keep up with a hollow ichigo which as i said before was not able to keep up with aizen, who urahara was able to keep up with.

when did they fight? when aizen appeared before urahara in a flash and in that time urahara was able to use an inflatable gigai, diappear behind aizen, reappear and blast him with a string off high level kido


oh and one more thing, aizen said that urahara surpassed him without the hogyoku now then, do you really think that byakuya is stronger than someone who was able to incapacitate 2 captains each in a second (an aizen without the hogyoku did this too hitsugaya and Sajin and aizen said urahara surpassed him so urahara would be able to this)

I'm pretty sure that gigai thing was already out an the real him was just close by cuz once aizen rushed him there was no time to make a gigai hope u can see that.

Yea surpassed him with brain power not just raw power it self if aizen wanted to he could have just used shikai an end urahara if he did not have the hogyoku thats y aizen lost in the first place cuz he stop useing shikai I'm still wandering y he stopped I guess it's cuz he thought he was unstoppable but anyway with or with out the hogyoku aizen still beats him.

 

[TheHokage]

I'm pretty sure byakuya himself said he did not care for them anymore read the manga an stop talking stupid.

You clearly are retarded, Byakuya is not going to admit Yourichi is faster than him is he and he only said that he did not care for them to build his character up as emotionless person, since he isn't going to shout about how much he got owned.

The clear picture is Yourichi beat him in speed and if your going to go by quotes fair enough Yourichi said she was still faster than Byakuya, lol she was able to land on his arm without him realizing.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

You clearly are retarded, Byakuya is not going to admit Yourichi is faster than him is he and he only said that he did not care for them to build his character up as emotionless person, since he isn't going to shout about how much he got owned.

The clear picture is Yourichi beat him in speed and if your going to go by quotes fair enough Yourichi said she was still faster than Byakuya, lol she was able to land on his arm without him realizing.

Naw he realized he just did not react. If he wanted to chase her would an she would have not gotten away she Probly would have been in front but byakuya would have stayed on he tail the hole time...

Wat yoroichi said don't matter he can trap her in senkei if he wanted to.

 

[iMicLykTyson]

u have been utterly destroyed in this debate why do u still persist ? Lord the level of retardedness :flaw:

 

[kotoamatsukami]

u have been utterly destroyed in this debate why do u still persist ? Lord the level of retardedness :flaw:

Stop talking bout urself like dat

 

[home]

I'm pretty sure that gigai thing was already out an the real him was just close by cuz once aizen rushed him there was no time to make a gigai hope u can see that.

Yea surpassed him with brain power not just raw power it self if aizen wanted to he could have just used shikai an end urahara if he did not have the hogyoku thats y aizen lost in the first place cuz he stop useing shikai I'm still wandering y he stopped I guess it's cuz he thought he was unstoppable but anyway with or with out the hogyoku aizen still beats him.

nope remember against yammy it was a lifeless doll but whatever. even the fact that he was able to flash behind aizen with his speed and surprise him something even shunsui (one of the 3 strongest captains below yamamoto) was unable to do is incredible and proves his speed far outclasses byakuya.

and no aizen actually said "had i not subjugated the hogyoku you would surely be stronger then me" and no he stopped because he had gained the hogyoku and didnt need to use shikai. please stop arguing there are direct quotes from the manga that prove you wrong so really you cant argue anymore.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

nope remember against yammy it was a lifeless doll but whatever. even the fact that he was able to flash behind aizen with his speed and surprise him something even shunsui (one of the 3 strongest captains below yamamoto) was unable to do is incredible and proves his speed far outclasses byakuya.

and no aizen actually said "had i not subjugated the hogyoku you would surely be stronger then me" and no he stopped because he had gained the hogyoku and didnt need to use shikai. please stop arguing there are direct quotes from the manga that prove you wrong so really you cant argue anymore.

Show me the direct quote of aizen saying without hogyoku ur stronger than me...aizen shikai was to much to Handel for someone on urahara level