[Discussion] Butsuma/Tobirama vs Tajima/Izuna

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Not cause I wanna ruin your day or anything, but no Naruto this weak

That said, yeah they are probably weaker, I mean it's certain that Madara's dad has no MS, so Hashi's dad probably doesn't have wood element either, or it would be unfair I think
 

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Did I just see the leaders of the Uchiha and the Senju being called weak? Oh wow...

Hashirama, Tobirama and Itama all showed slight fear towards their father as they seemingly normally tiptoed around him.
 

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Did I just see the leaders of the Uchiha and the Senju being called weak? Oh wow...

Hashirama, Tobirama and Itama all showed slight fear towards their father as they seemingly normally tiptoed around him.
What you saw was my claiming the fathers of Madara and Hashirama, respectively, are much weaker than said latter. Also, I never made the claim that they are the leaders of their respective clans.

Furthermore, if you really base the power of their fathers on their (the kids) showing fear (debateable) then you are lost my friend.
 

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I think Tobirama > Izuna Barely. Tobirama was stated to have killed a couple Uchiha. Izuna has not yet (I think).
The adults will kill eachother, Madara will hurt Tobirama, and then Hashirama will defend Tobirama.
 
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