Someone should ask Oda that in an SBS. Although I'm quite sure he had haki.I hate judging Ace because he never had real haki feats
I don't see how Ace can win, let alone mid diff current Burgess. Burgess had great portrayal against Sabo. Surge Elbow is like a miniature King Punch and he can throw them around like it's nothing. Burgess' Elbow also matched Sabo's Dragon Claw evenly in terms of sheer power output. His physical strength is outrageous and his haki is only moderately weaker than Sabo's(who is a haki beast). He also showed no problem to follow a speedster like Sabo, even pressuring him enough for him not being able to accomplish 2 tasks at the same time(protecting Rebecca seemed to be impossible). He also has immense endurance, shrugging off Sengoku's buddha attacks even preskip with minimal damage(so let alone post skip). Alongside what i mentioned, i think it will be difficult fight for Ace if he can even winSomeone should ask Oda that in an SBS. Although I'm quite sure he had haki.
OT: Ace mid-high diff.
I can agree with this, but care to explain?Could go either way.
How is elbow surge on the same level as dragon claw if dragon claw destroyed Burgess armor when the two techniques clashed?I don't see how Ace can win, let alone mid diff current Burgess. Burgess had great portrayal against Sabo. Surge Elbow is like a miniature King Punch and he can throw them around like it's nothing. Burgess' Elbow also matched Sabo's Dragon Claw evenly in terms of sheer power output. His physical strength is outrageous and his haki is only moderately weaker than Sabo's(who is a haki beast). He also showed no problem to follow a speedster like Sabo, even pressuring him enough for him not being able to accomplish 2 tasks at the same time(protecting Rebecca seemed to be impossible). He also has immense endurance, shrugging off Sengoku's buddha attacks even preskip with minimal damage(so let alone post skip). Alongside what i mentioned, i think it will be difficult fight for Ace if he can even win
Like i've said, it matched it in terms of sheer power output. They remained in a standstil during the entire clash with no one pushing back the other. What allowed Sabo to break the armor is his moderately superior hakiHow is elbow surge on the same level as dragon claw if dragon claw destroyed Burgess armor when the two techniques clashed?
Pretimeskip Burgess could shrug off his fire attacks and post timeskip he has armament haki that could allow him to defend himself against Ace's range attacks even better. Not to mention, there is still the option of counter-acting with surge elbow(which is pretty powerful-a minuature king punch) or simply dodging. It's not like he will remain there doing nothingdepends on the distance if it`s close then burggess will in but if they are far from each other burgees is going to get fried
It's Sabo+2years, not pretimeskip Sabo. There is a vast difference. Ace died 2 years prior slowing down his progression. Burgess and Sabo on the other side vastly evolved in 2 years. Not to mention, i won't say Sabo made that quick work of Burgess at all. He was slightly stronger(without his fruit) and more cunning, helping him to take the fruitAce mid diff....Im basing it off Sabo(Who should be around aces lvl if he was alive) who made quick work of Burgess
1-either you are underating the mera mera`s destrucive power or iam overrating it but frankly i dont think he can tank ace`s attacks with no damage and his surge elbows needs time to charge aces hiken dsnt so he is going to blitz himLike i've said, it matched it in terms of sheer power output
Pretimeskip Burgess could shrug off his fire attacks and post timeskip he has 1-armament haki that could allow him to defend himself against Ace's range attacks even better. Not to mention, there is still the option of counter-acting with surge elbow(which is pretty powerful-a minuature king punch) or 2-simply dodging. It's not like he will remain there doing nothing