[Discussion] Buddhist monk sets himself on fire!!!

[HiddenSound]

Self-immolation is a thing with monks. There was a famous incident in South Vietnam way back when. The then president was a hard-liner Catholic and cracked down on the Buddhist monks, hard core.
In protest, one monk set himself on fire. The monk sacrificed himself to show just how horrible the crackdown was. That he'd rather burn than live there. It worked because it was a huge part in the president stepping down/getting shot.

That monk is on the cover of a Rage Against the Machine album.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Self-immolation is a thing with monks. There was a famous incident in South Vietnam way back when. The then president was a hard-liner Catholic and cracked down on the Buddhist monks, hard core.
In protest, one monk set himself on fire. The monk sacrificed himself to show just how horrible the crackdown was. That he'd rather burn than live there. It worked because it was a huge part in the president stepping down/getting shot.

That monk is on the cover of a Rage Against the Machine album.

It is truly sad to see how naive people are, a man who dedicated his life to peace and tranquility just set himself ablaze yet very few can comprehend his actions.

 

[HiddenSound]

It is truly sad to see how naive people are, a man who dedicated his life to peace and tranquility just set himself ablaze yet very few can comprehend his actions.

Yeah... I understand exactly why he did that, and I believe it is truly brave.
No one was doing a single thing about the Buddhist crackdown. He set himself on fire to get the eyes of the world on what was happening in South Vietnam. And it worked.
I admire those who are that dedicated to their beliefs. I, personally, don't know if there is or is not a God, but I want to believe. Stories like that make me think.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Self-immolation is a thing with monks. There was a famous incident in South Vietnam way back when. The then president was a hard-liner Catholic and cracked down on the Buddhist monks, hard core.
In protest, one monk set himself on fire. The monk sacrificed himself to show just how horrible the crackdown was. That he'd rather burn than live there. It worked because it was a huge part in the president stepping down/getting shot.

That monk is on the cover of a Rage Against the Machine album.

yea, he was a martyr, but what if he continued to live and RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE rather than kill him self? I understand his reasoning, but had someone killed the prick, he wouldn't have had to kill himself. Its sad that people have to result to suicide to raise morale. There is always going to be a great evil to overcome, but how can you overcome it if your dead? There will always be those who try to oppress, you kill your self because of one, and another will only take his place in due time. Then what? What will the next generation do? Set themselves on fire as well? No, live, love, resist. And by these actions the next generation will take heed and know how to deal with a tyrant once you have passed on. Each one, teach one.

BTW if you look on the first page that monk your talking is also posted there by me, he was the first monk to set himself on fire.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Yeah... I understand exactly why he did that, and I believe it is truly brave.
No one was doing a single thing about the Buddhist crackdown. He set himself on fire to get the eyes of the world on what was happening in South Vietnam. And it worked.
I admire those who are that dedicated to their beliefs. I, personally, don't know if there is or is not a God, but I want to believe. Stories like that make me think.

I personally do not believe in God, but when I see people who are Good and are truly dedicated to their religion, it makes me envious and at the same time i admire and respect them to the fullest.

Thinks such as these make me wonder too, too many questions to ponder, too many complex answers to question.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

yea, he was a martyr, but what if he continued to live and RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE rather than kill him self? I understand his reasoning, but had someone killed the prick, he wouldn't have had to kill himself. Its sad that people have to result to suicide to raise morale. There is always going to be a great evil to overcome, but how can you overcome it if your dead? There will always be those who try to oppress, you kill your self because of one, and another will only take his place in due time. Then what? What will the next generation do? Set themselves on fire as well? No, live, love, resist. And by these actions the next generation will take heed and know how to deal with a tyrant once you have passed on. Each one, teach one.

BTW if you look on the first page that monk your talking is also posted there by me, he was the first monk to set himself on fire.

You live in a materialistic world, you are a materialistic being, you do not understand nor can you comprehend the ultimate sacrifice.
In the end you will die not by choice though, to choose to die is something you could never understand.

You can either live as sheep or die as a shepherd, only in death will your words be like water to the thirsty.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

You live in a materialistic world, you are a materialistic being, you do not understand nor can you comprehend the ultimate sacrifice.
In the end you will die not by choice though, to choose to die is something you could never understand.

You can either live as sheep or die as a shepherd, only in death will your words be like water to the thirsty.

lol ok sir. I respect your opinion.

 

[Kishi Uzumaki]

That monk died man . Do you know why ? the monk you talked about set fire to himself to protest against the slaughter of cattle . I don't agree With what he did . he have saved many cattle before doing that he could have saved more if he didn't do that and you can't blame all monks in srilanka . they all don't go and set fire to them self .

 

[Blaze Release]

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Apparently this is where it all started..

Ayy dont confuse mud bone with these fodder

Lets not insult Thich Quang Duc

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NB cannot be filled with this many morons, this is not the first time a Buddhist monk has publicly light himself on fire, though this attempt seems more sparatic and nonsensical, I believe both instances had a point which was, they could no longer bear with what the current state of Humanity is and will eventually become.

Please don't belittle this person or his religion for the sacrifice he has made, you might not believe but he believes enough to withstand Death by Fire, that is enough to give respect where it is due.

Imagine if people were actually genuinely good and did good deeds not because they are supposed but out of the goodness of their heart, in his mind he sacraficed himself for you, me and the entire Human race.

A narrow minded buffoon would see this as nothing but tomfoolery but an intelligent individual would view this as the ultimate sacrifice.

This is NB in a nutshell or the internet. People lacking in knowledge, yet are the first to speak.
Or perhaps empty barrels do really make the most noise

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Lets not insult Thich Quang Duc

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This is NB in a nutshell or the internet. People lacking in knowledge, yet are the first to speak.
Or perhaps empty barrels do really make the most noise

lol people and there philosophical references, my point is valid, like it or not sir

 

[Avani]

No matter how philosophical and enlightened monks are, they could never get me to understand this buffoonery

That monk set himself on fire to draw attention to a problem he believed needed attention- Slaughter of cattle in a certain manner which many animal activists believe as inhuman as well as certain other issues of regional importance- which were important to him.

Disagreeing with someone's opinion, way of thinking and his idea of protest is one thing but posting a news out of context to insult or mock someone is another. You didn't even try to look for the reason and exactly what was happening here.

The idea of suicide itself being an unwanted aspect is also part of your cultural sensitivity due to the religious beliefs it developed with( the idea of it being a sin) A lot of arguments against such issues come from that background.

lol people and there philosophical references, my point is valid, like it or not sir

Having strong opinions oneself and yet laughing at another for it, is called hypocrisy.

 

[Moe22]

That monk set himself on fire to draw attention to a problem he believed needed attention- Slaughter of cattle in a certain manner which many animal activists believe as inhuman as well as certain other issues of regional importance- which were important to him.

Disagreeing with someone's opinion, way of thinking and his idea of protest is one thing but posting a news out of context to insult or mock someone is another. You didn't even try to look for the reason and exactly what was happening here.

The idea of suicide itself being an unwanted aspect is also part of your cultural sensitivity due to the religious beliefs it developed with( the idea of it being a sin) A lot of arguments against such issues come from that background.




Having strong opinions oneself and yet laughing at another for it, is called hypocrisy.

All hail Ira.

 

[Funky Tiger]

So the person committed suicide to grab attention for something he believes in. Its his life, and so he gets to decide whether he wants to continue living or not. Telling "Omg no he shouldn't have done it" is acceptable, but blatantly criticsizing him all this time later is downright dumb. Seriously OP, the man was not trying to make others light themselves/light others himself. He only harmed himself, and I'm p sure he believed he'd live. So just stop taking this stupid moral highground for a 40 year old freaking issue.

Would you ***** about it this much if he were a normal person and not a monk affliated to a religion? I don't think so. Had you made a thread condemning people lighting themselves, this would've been a better thread. But no, you chose a religious incident out of many incidents where

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, and adamantly refuse to even try to understand what people opposing you are saying.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

So the person committed suicide to grab attention for something he believes in. Its his life, and so he gets to decide whether he wants to continue living or not. Telling "Omg no he shouldn't have done it" is acceptable, but blatantly criticsizing him all this time later is downright dumb. Seriously OP, the man was not trying to make others light themselves/light others himself. He only harmed himself, and I'm p sure he believed he'd live. So just stop taking this stupid moral highground for a 40 year old freaking issue.

Would you ***** about it this much if he were a normal person and not a monk affliated to a religion? I don't think so. Had you made a thread condemning people lighting themselves, this would've been a better thread. But no, you chose a religious incident out of many incidents where

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, and adamantly refuse to even try to understand what people opposing you are saying.

lol no matter how angry or upset you get, suicide solves no problems, the only way to insure change is to live and pass on knowledge to the next generation. periodxd

 

[Funky Tiger]

So humans live only to smush their privates together and make beautiful babies and stick our 'knowledge' up their asses? I feel for any future(?) children you might have.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

So humans live only to smush their privates together and make beautiful babies and stick our 'knowledge' up their asses? I feel for any future(?) children you might have.

wow, of course that's what we live for. To reproduce and pass on knowledge to ensure the vitality of the human race. Knowledge increases with understanding, the knowledge that i pass to my child will be increased when he passes it to his/her child. With each generation we get smarter and sometimes wiser. Yes you are suppose to inspire, but why do you need to burn yourself to death to do so? Is their no other logical way that doesn't involve ending your existence on this plain?

 

[Anorien16]

wow, of course that's what we live for. To reproduce and pass on knowledge to ensure the vitality of the human race. Knowledge increases with understanding, the knowledge that i pass to my child will be increased when he passes it to his/her child. With each generation we get smarter and sometimes wiser. Yes you are suppose to inspire, but why do you need to burn yourself to death to do so? Is their no other logical way that doesn't involve ending your existence on this plain?

Passing on knowledge and understanding doesnt bring change ... people being shaken to take action brings change. French Revolution didnt happen because of generations of wise people was becoming wiser ... it happened because people took action for a reason. The poor monk killed himself because normally people didnt pay attention to his cause ... only by doing something shocking he could garner enough attention .... and he did so ...... but naturally people like you are criticizing his actions instead of taking note of what he died for. And also believe me some people hold some seemingly petty things as reason worth dieing for.

 

[Funky Tiger]

My emphasis on that post was on knowledge, but thanks for concentrating on the other part. Reproducing is a huge part of our lives, but we don't have any rights to push whatever we think down their throats. There is always the possibility that we are horribly misinformed, and may even have a close minded view on many things, and it may adversely impact the way our children look at the world. They should figure out the answers themselves, we may only guide them. Telling them what we think is right is one thing, forcing it down their throats is just dumb.

 

[ROSH2]

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this shit is absolutely unbelievable, no religious belief could convense to ****ing set my self on fire! Tell me what was the outcome? What did his actions yield? nothing! The world is still a ****ed up place and babys die every day, this shit does not stop, suicide or not, no matter your intentions. Live, dont rush death, it's inevitable, we all have our date with destiny. There is nothing we can do once we have crossed over, true ones death can inspire and spark change, but 99% of the time your life is much more meaningful than your death.

EDIT: I dont think he's dead, but im sure he wishes he was, i think his gonads are gone

venerable monk self sacrifice to stop killing cattle for meat & he succeeded little bit

 

[Avani]

lol no matter how angry or upset you get, suicide solves no problems, the only way to insure change is to live and pass on knowledge to the next generation. periodxd

Present generation should stand up and act sometimes, instead of passing the buck to next generation.