[Discussion] BREAKING NEWS! Dragon's and Akainu's bounty

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Rikudou Tobi wrong again. Skypeian's have wings on their backs. Lafitte's arms turned into wings. Nothing indicates he's from Skypeia.

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Sirens have wings for arms specifically as well <3 awesome. I hope that's kinda the route oda take lafitte
 

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Ignore the clown, he’s got his own headcanon. Apparently Shiryuu didn’t join the Blackbeard pirate crew until after the timeskip.

He’s from skypeia
Can you just learn to admit when you're wrong? It was stated in the manga that Lafitte was a former sheriff from the West Blue, and he's clearly not a Skypiean anyways since he can control when to show his wings and his wings are much bigger than the Skypieans'.
 

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Can you just learn to admit when you're wrong? It was stated in the manga that Lafitte was a former sheriff from the West Blue, and he's clearly not a Skypiean anyways since he can control when to show his wings and his wings are much bigger than the Skypieans'.
Lmao he gotta be trolling. Not only this, but his wings aren't even in the same place as a Skypeian's.

Ignore the clown, he’s got his own headcanon. Apparently Shiryuu didn’t join the Blackbeard pirate crew until after the timeskip.

He’s from skypeia
Show me where I said that about Shillew.
 

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Can you just learn to admit when you're wrong?
What the hell is wrong with you? You're the last person to tell me this, especially when you're too stubborn to
That's your problem. You always think that you're right and that you have all the answers before Oda can confirm anything himself.
It was stated in the manga that Lafitte was a former sheriff from the West Blue, and he's clearly not a Skypiean anyways since he can control when to show his wings and his wings are much bigger than the Skypieans'.
Well no duh, I know that he's a sheriff in the west blue, Tsuru gave the run down back in the Warlord meeting but it never stated that he was even born there. He's clearly a skypiean, his wings are as big as Urouge the fallen monk another skypiean.
Though given your stubbornness to admit when you are wrong, I'm sure you're gonna come up with some other excuse.
 
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I mean his arms did turn into wings. He's some kind of zoan with wings and no arms regardless. Like a eagle, but his make up, and abilities lean more towards a siren imo
 

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I mean his arms did turn into wings. He's some kind of zoan with wings and no arms regardless. Like a eagle, but his make up, and abilities lean more towards a siren imo
At first I thought those were arms then I looked closely and saw that there weren't any sleeves. Don't Sirens have fins?
 

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What the hell is wrong with you? You're the last person to tell me this, especially when you're too stubborn to
That's your problem. You always think that you're right and that you have all the answers before Oda can confirm anything himself.

Well no duh, I know that he's a sheriff in the west blue, Tsuru gave the run down back in the Warlord meeting but it never stated that he was even born there. He's clearly a skypiean, his wings are as big as Urouge the fallen monk another skypiean.
Though given your stubbornness to admit when you are wrong, I'm sure you're gonna come up with some other excuse.
You literally proved my "senseless assumption" right in this very thread by using Burgess' status as 1st division commander to imply that he's the strongest BB subordinate. His wings are bigger than Urouge's and they're a different shape, and you didn't even address my point about how Lafitte can summon his wings at will, unlike other Skypieans.
 

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You literally proved my "senseless assumption" right in this very thread by using Burgess' status as 1st division commander to imply that he's the strongest BB subordinate.
No I didn't
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Matter of fact show me where I said that "Burgess' status as 1st division commander to imply that he's the strongest BB subordinate" in that thread.
His wings are bigger than Urouge's and they're a different shape, and you didn't even address my point about how Lafitte can summon his wings at will, unlike other Skypieans.

@Bolds This is exactly the type of shit I was talking about.

1. Urouge's wings are bigger, to say that Lafitte is bigger is either stubbornness or complete stupidity. I'm being dead series right now, the fact that you would say that is just...
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2. This is the type of "senseless assumption" that I was talking about. Since when did Lafitte summon his wings at will? How do you know that Skypieans can't do the same? You didn't see what Lafitte did to his wings when he entered the meeting, you never seen him extend them or retract them. It was all off panel.
 
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No I didn't
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Matter of fact show me where I said that "Burgess' status as 1st division commander to imply that he's the strongest BB subordinate" in that thread.



@Bolds This is exactly the type of shit I was talking about.

1. Urouge's wings are bigger, to say that Lafitte is bigger is either stubbornness or complete stupidity. I'm being dead series right now, the fact that you would say that is just...
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2. This is the type of "senseless assumption" that I was talking about. Since when did Lafitte summon his wings at will? How do you know that Skypieans can't do the same? You didn't see what Lafitte did to his wings when he entered the meeting, you never seen him extend them or retract them. It was all off panel.
QUOTE=Rikudou Tobi;21734396] from what we’ve seen since Sabo made quick work of their division 1 leader.[/QUOTE]
Here you are implying that the rest of the crew is weaker than Burgess because of his division number.

Lafitte's wings are clearly bigger proportional to his body than Urouge's are. One of his wings is almost as big as he is, and once again, his wings are a different shape than the Skypieans'.

2. This is the type of "senseless assumption" that I was talking about. Since when did Lafitte summon his wings at will?
Do you have eyes?
How do you know that Skypieans can't do the same? You didn't see what Lafitte did to his wings when he entered the meeting, you never seen him extend them or retract them. It was all off panel.
How about the fact that we've never seen any other Skypiean retract their wings? Lets not give the Skypieans abilities that we've never seen them use just to defend our headcanon.
 

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QUOTE=Rikudou Tobi;21734396] from what we’ve seen since Sabo made quick work of their division 1 leader.
Here you are implying that the rest of the crew is weaker than Burgess because of his division number.
I'll ask you again.
Where did I specifically state that '"Burgess' status as 1st division commander to imply that he's the strongest BB subordinate' in that thread?"'

@Bold: I like how you think it's implied when the correct term is "senseless assumption." It never occurred to you that the first commander sets the tone for the rest of the crew. My opinion of who's the strongest commander was never assumed implied in that specific thread. Which I'm sure that the quote you just attempted to forge never came from that thread in the first place.

Lafitte's wings are clearly bigger proportional to his body than Urouge's are. One of his wings is almost as big as he is, and once again, his wings are a different shape than the Skypieans'.
So before it was that Laffitte's wings are bigger, now you changed it to proportional to his body? This is what I was talking about you not admitting when you are wrong. I guess the skypieans that Luffy met during the Enel arc also had wings proportioned to their size? You really tried it.

Do you have eyes?
Are you stupid? We've never seen Lafitte utilize his wings
How about the fact that we've never seen any other Skypiean retract their wings? Lets not give the Skypieans abilities that we've never seen them use just to defend our headcanon.
I never gave them any abilities you illiterate idiot. I said we don't know what they can do to their wings. The only headcanon here is the summoning wings at will crap.
 
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I'll ask you again.
Where did I specifically state that '"Burgess' status as 1st division commander to imply that he's the strongest BB subordinate' in that thread?"'

@Bold: I like how you think it's implied when the correct term is "senseless assumption." It never occurred to you that the first commander sets the tone for the rest of the crew. My opinion of who's the strongest commander was never assumed implied in that specific thread. Which I'm sure that the quote you just attempted to forge never came from that thread in the first place.


So before it was that Laffitte's wings are bigger, now you changed it to proportional to his body? This is what I was talking about you not admitting when you are wrong. I guess the skypieans that Luffy met during the Enel arc also had wings proportioned to their size? You really tried it.


Are you stupid? We've never seen Lafitte utilize his wings

I never gave them any abilities you illiterate idiot. I said we don't know what they can do to their wings. The only headcanon here is the summoning wings at will crap.
You must be joking. Lafitte's arms turned into wings, and you're saying we've never seen him use or summon his wings at will?
 

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1. Urouge's wings are bigger, to say that Lafitte is bigger is either stubbornness or complete stupidity. I'm being dead series right now, the fact that you would say that is just...
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No they aren't. Laffitte has a longer wingspan despite being a smaller person. Urouge's wings are an outlier proportionally and in size to other Skypeians, yet Laffite's are still longer.

Normal Skypieans'.
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Urouge's.
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Laffitte's(one wing is longer than Blackbeard despite it being farther behind).
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Laffitte can fly while it's questionable if a single Skypiean can even extend or retract their wings. There is also something going on with his arms. I think the wings come from his shoulders, but his sleeves billowed when he used his wings despite the sleeves being small and there being nothing else to mistake for them. He wasn't wearing a cape at the time or anything.
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No they aren't. Laffitte has a longer wingspan despite being a smaller person. Urouge's wings are an outlier proportionally and in size to other Skypeians, yet Laffite's are still longer.

Normal Skypieans'.
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Urouge's.
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Laffitte's(one wing is longer than Blackbeard despite it being farther behind).
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Laffitte can fly while it's questionable if a single Skypiean can even extend or retract their wings. There is also something going on with his arms. I think the wings come from his shoulders, but his sleeves billowed when he used his wings despite the sleeves being small and there being nothing else to mistake for them. He wasn't wearing a cape at the time or anything.
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If you look below Burgess' arm in that last page at the top, you can see the bottom of one of those "sleeves" and the whole thing looks as though his top somehow became a cape
 

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If you look below Burgess' arm in that last page at the top, you can see the bottom of one of those "sleeves" and the whole thing looks as though his top somehow became a cape
You can see it on the other side too. There's a part that'd make you think it's the empty space between his sleeve and shirt itself. You realize it's just a crease if you look down a bit and see the pattern though.
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