Bm = bsm

[Naijakid]

Normal sense should tell you that BSM is stronger

 

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He hasn't used from katas yet but he couldve used it to slap juubito with his tail nuff said.

how would kata help against the Juubito? would it have stopped him? no all he would have done is attack at close ranger and probably get him self killed.

 

[Xāvî1]

Lol just no...

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

wolfus explained this about twice today.

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OT: No you're wrong SM greatly amplifies BM powers and abilities

His theory is incredibly flawed and based on something he made up. He made the mistake of assuming sm multiplies your strength. He thinks it works like kaio ken but it doesn't. SM does give a power up but it does not multiply you strength at all. You absorb senjutsu until you get enough that you can comfortably store in your body. Bm is kurama giving naruto a powerful dense chakra the chakra is so great that he cannot contain it in his body which exits his body like fire. They are separate chakras do not amplify each other. The amount of senjutsu chakra naruto can hold is still the same.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

I disagree. Senjutsu techniques are definietly stronger than their normal counterparts.

Bm is not a normal counter part it is stronger than sm by leaps and bounds.

 

[Multiply]

Do you understand how idiotic you sound? This is literally like saying Base Naruto is roughly equal to Sennin Modo Naruto. Sennin Modo amplifies all your abilities from whatever form you enter from. From Base -> To Sennin Modo, Naruto's abilities were amplified exponentially. His Rasengan's were massive, he could physically dominate a 15000 pound Rhino, has increased Speed, and can throw the FRS that he previously could barely contain. He's entering Sennin Modo from Bijuu Modo, effectively making Bijuu Modo the base mode in this case. To say that it gives him nothing or it is miniscule is blasphemy.

The thread was solo'd a while ago...

OT: You're just wrong...

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

how would kata help against the Juubito? would it have stopped him? no all he would have done is attack at close ranger and probably get him self killed.

I can't post scans but in the panel where bsm tries to hit obito with his tail while sasuke tries to slash him. If he could use frog kata his tail wouldve succeeded in hitting him.

 

[Turson]

Bm is not a normal counter part it is stronger than sm by leaps and bounds.

Considering that Naruto was able to add enough natural energy to TBB that was made by him and Minato... yeah, I think there is a clear difference between BM and BSM.

 

[Champ]

I agree Obito

 

[Multiply]

I can't post scans but in the panel where bsm tries to hit obito with his tail while sasuke tries to slash him. If he could use frog kata his tail wouldve succeeded in hitting him.

Frog Kata wouldn't have helped considering Obito was no where near where Naruto attempted to strike him. Obito's speed is what helped him escape the attacks.

 

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I can't post scans but in the panel where bsm tries to hit obito with his tail while sasuke tries to slash him. If he could use frog kata his tail wouldve succeeded in hitting him.

frog kata would have been useless in that situation naruto used a tail because it was a long range attack that had a greater reach to hit him, with frog kata he would have to intercept obito who was moving at a faster speed than both naruto and sasuke.

 

[iNotorious]

Do you understand how idiotic you sound? This is literally like saying Base Naruto is roughly equal to Sennin Modo Naruto. Sennin Modo amplifies all your abilities from whatever form you enter from. From Base -> To Sennin Modo, Naruto's abilities were amplified exponentially. His Rasengan's were massive, he could physically dominate a 15000 pound Rhino, has increased Speed, and can throw the FRS that he previously could barely contain. He's entering Sennin Modo from Bijuu Modo, effectively making Bijuu Modo the base mode in this case. To say that it gives him nothing or it is miniscule is blasphemy.

Frog kata Imagine BSM speed with frog kata + SM sensing + Negative sensing = OP lol

 

[AlphaScythian]

Considering that Naruto was able to add enough natural energy to TBB that was made by him and Minato... yeah, I think there is a clear difference between BM and BSM.

I looked into the scan, said adding sage power, not clear if it was pure energy, TBB itself isnt anything naruto hasnt made b4.

 

[Turson]

I looked into the scan, said adding sage power, not clear if it was pure energy, TBB itself isnt anything naruto hasnt made b4.

But... TBB with natural energy > TBB without natural energy.

 

[TheSages456]

BSM naruto has shown no feats that put him above his BM counterpart in power. the fans say that the manga agrees with them but they cant directly pull up the scan of BM narutos power being enhanced? pathetic. its the same thing with madaras fanboys.

they extrapolate abilities.
you request the scan of a character performing the action, then they say "just because he hasnt shown it doesnt mean that he cant do it".
then thats their argument for every situation.


even the blast radius of BSM narutos bijudama was the same as BM narutos.

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and this isnt even BSM narutos bijudama purely. sasuke also shot an arrow which contributed to the explosion in the scan.

 

[Turson]

BSM naruto has shown no feats that put him above his BM counterpart in power.

Obviously, he was fighting a guy who was a few tiers above him, BSM or not. But we know what happens when you add natural energy to technique, it was clearly explained in manga. Thats enough.

 

[AlphaScythian]

But... TBB with natural energy > TBB without natural energy.

According to my theory its just the same...Think of juubi's Tbb of same size.

 

[Turson]

According to my theory its just the same...Think of juubi's Tbb of same size.

According to manga it just cannot be the same. Technique with addition of natural energy > technique without natural energy. I rather to trust manga.

 

[Lay]

Is this worth arguing?... Its like saying a knight with 2 swords is the same as the same knight with 1 sword

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I don't get it. If sm adds something then how can it be equal?
Base+sm>base
Bm+sm> bm