Bm = bsm

[obito uchiha the wraith]

The difference between them in power is miniscule. The only 1 up for bsm is better sensing which they both already have. Naruto fans will give you a slew of reasons bsm is such a major step up but it's not. Bsm is only sage mode added to bijuu mode. Naruto is limited to two rasenshuuriken or one big one and some left over senjutsu I say left over because he got blitzed by madara who is slower than 3rd raikage who's attack he was able to dodge and counter. Sm grants naruto enhanced strength, more chakra, sensing and reflexes. Bm grants direct access to the second strongest entity in the nvs chakra granting you strength, unlimited chakra, unparalleled speed and sensing. Sm is so much weaker in comparison that the addition is miniscule. If KURAMA went sage mode and gave him chakra THEN it would be a major power up.

 

[Turson]

Technique with addition of natural energy > the same technique without natural energy. Its a simple, old rule.

BSM Naruto is stronger than with normal BM.

 

[Transcendence]

Do you understand how idiotic you sound? This is literally like saying Base Naruto is roughly equal to Sennin Modo Naruto. Sennin Modo amplifies all your abilities from whatever form you enter from. From Base -> To Sennin Modo, Naruto's abilities were amplified exponentially. His Rasengan's were massive, he could physically dominate a 15000 pound Rhino, has increased Speed, and can throw the FRS that he previously could barely contain. He's entering Sennin Modo from Bijuu Modo, effectively making Bijuu Modo the base mode in this case. To say that it gives him nothing or it is miniscule is blasphemy.

 

[VongolaX]

And

Regular naruto is equal to sagemode naruto too right?

Told those fanboys that they were wrong :|

 

[Gerkak]

Dude BSM>>BM this is a manga fact. SM enhances all abilities regardless of what your base abilities were. Whether you are using tailed beast or human chakra

 

[-immortal-]

The only thing i haven seen from BSM naruto is that it gets Sagemode so its a bit more usefull.i don't see it like a powerup orso

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Technique with addition of natural energy > the same technique without natural energy. Its a simple, old rule.

BSM Naruto is stronger than with normal BM.

Ok I'll put it like this bm vs bsm they are so equal it doesn't matter. If they were to fight bsm would still be extremely close in power to the point it doesn't matter.

 

[Turson]

Ok I'll put it like this bm vs bsm they are so equal it doesn't matter. If they were to fight bsm would still be extremely close in power to the point it doesn't matter.

I disagree. Senjutsu techniques are definietly stronger than their normal counterparts.

 

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wolfus explained this about twice today.

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OT: No you're wrong SM greatly amplifies BM powers and abilities

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

And

Regular naruto is equal to sagemode naruto too right?

Told those fanboys that they were wrong :|

Regular naruto isn't bm naruto. Bsm has no feats above bm naruto but sensing he can't even use frog kata with the kurama avatar.

 

[Turson]

Regular naruto isn't bm naruto. Bsm has no feats above bm naruto but sensing he can't even use frog kata with the kurama avatar.

I dont think thats true.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Dude BSM>>BM this is a manga fact. SM enhances all abilities regardless of what your base abilities were. Whether you are using tailed beast or human chakra

Sm doesn't enhance bm abilities enough to be considered a real power up. They both already have sensing not much difference but bsm has slightly better sensing.

 

[Gerkak]

Ok I'll put it like this bm vs bsm they are so equal it doesn't matter. If they were to fight bsm would still be extremely close in power to the point it doesn't matter.

Dude you did not explain how BSM=BM

 

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Regular naruto isn't bm naruto. Bsm has no feats above bm naruto but sensing he can't even use frog kata with the kurama avatar.

its this kinda of horrible logic that makes NDS seem like a bad section at times, so because kishi hasnt shown the full extent means it doesnt exist? you know thats the reason he explained how sage mode worked in the first place so he wouldnt have to explain it a second.

 

[Gerkak]

Sm doesn't enhance bm abilities enough to be considered a real power up. They both already have sensing not much difference but bsm has slightly better sensing.

ofcourse you won't see much of a difference because he was fighting a person levels above him

 

[Retsu]

Not true, senjutsu enhances all nin, tai, and genjutsu dramatically, manga>your opinion

 

[Lytes]

bsm is better than bm

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Do you understand how idiotic you sound? This is literally like saying Base Naruto is roughly equal to Sennin Modo Naruto. Sennin Modo amplifies all your abilities from whatever form you enter from. From Base -> To Sennin Modo, Naruto's abilities were amplified exponentially. His Rasengan's were massive, he could physically dominate a 15000 pound Rhino, has increased Speed, and can throw the FRS that he previously could barely contain. He's entering Sennin Modo from Bijuu Modo, effectively making Bijuu Modo the base mode in this case. To say that it gives him nothing or it is miniscule is blasphemy.

Do you know how stupid YOU sound? Those enhanced feats are meaningless bm is so much stronger than sm that the power up a insignificant. Bm can't be considerd as a base for sm that makes zero sense here's why. Bsm chakra is coming from kurama not naruto when naruto goes bsm he is simply going sm while in bijuu mode. If the chakra from sm was going to kurama then bsm would be stronger.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

its this kinda of horrible logic that makes NDS seem like a bad section at times, so because kishi hasnt shown the full extent means it doesnt exist? you know thats the reason he explained how sage mode worked in the first place so he wouldnt have to explain it a second.

He hasn't used from katas yet but he couldve used it to slap juubito with his tail nuff said.

 

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Do you know how stupid YOU sound? Those enhanced feats are meaningless bm is so much stronger than sm that the power up a insignificant. Bm can't be considerd as a base for sm that makes zero sense here's why. Bsm chakra is coming from kurama not naruto when naruto goes bsm he is simply going sm while in bijuu mode. If the chakra from sm was going to kurama then bsm would be stronger.

dude you're wrong and you need to deal with it, SM isn't limited like other forms, sage mode is a multiplier form it gets stronger depending on the base form is applied to.