Bloodline will always be relevant, sorry haters

[SenseiSama]

Orochimaru was obsessed with Hagoromo's descendants because he didn't have their natural talent that's a fact that cannot be denied.


1. He failed at learning SM


2. He relied on thousands of experiments to develop his own jutsu



Tobirama, Naruto, Hashirama, Kushina all possessed demi-god tier feats because of their natural talent, something Oro lacked.



Inb4 "but he was a prodigy" statements, yes he was indeed one of the most talented prodigies by non-Otsutsuki standards, but compared to Otsutsuki descendants he was nowhere near their level, manga scan for proof

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Tobirama's talent for jutsu was far superior to Orochimaru, hence why Oro admired him so much

 

[salamander uchiha]

Naruto shouldn't be in that list his was plot shield + Kurama. Kushina had lifeforce so she's ok nothing even close eto demigod tier besides there's no such thing.

 

[SenseiSama]

Naruto shouldn't be in that list his was plot shield + Kurama. Kushina had lifeforce so she's ok nothing even close eto demigod tier besides there's no such thing.

Naruto's DNA is the reason he's so compatible with bijuu, Kurama said so himself "your mother's blood"


Naruto is an incarnate, any argument claiming he doesn't have strong genes goes in the trash, he invented RS which happens to be top 5 jutsu in NV



Kushina had the ability to bind bijuu like a Gedo statue and she wasn't even an incarnate.

 

[Brady]

The only people who hated bloodlines were NARUTO fans but then, when his wife and kids ended up having one, the bloodlines were all of a sudden so cool.

 

[Nattana]

Orochimaru was obsessed with Hagoromo's descendants because he didn't have their natural talent that's a fact that cannot be denied.


1. He failed at learning SM


2. He relied on thousands of experiments to develop his own jutsu



Tobirama, Naruto, Hashirama, Kushina all possessed demi-god tier feats because of their natural talent, something Oro lacked.



Inb4 "but he was a prodigy" statements, yes he was indeed one of the most talented prodigies by non-Otsutsuki standards, but compared to Otsutsuki descendants he was nowhere near their level, manga scan for proof


Tobirama's talent for jutsu was far superior to Orochimaru, hence why Oro admired him so much

He didn't fail at learning SM. He actually finished the training, because gathering and utilizing natural energy is the last step in learning SM. His body was just not strong enough for some reason.

And what's the problem with experimenting when trying to create VERY powerful jutsu? Do you have any proof that Tobirama created his techniques in an hour or a day? You don't, so stop spreading bullshit, especially since Orochimaru's experiments led to creation of one of the strongest thing in NV - immortality.

Also, Orochimaru was said to be a prodigy and a genious that comes once in several generations so stop saying he wasn't talented, because he's one of the most talented characters in the NV and probably the strongest if we count out all clan heritage/alien powers and overpowered Dojutsu.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Naruto's DNA is the reason he's so compatible with bijuu, Kurama said so himself "your mother's blood"


Naruto is an incarnate, any argument claiming he doesn't have strong genes goes in the trash, he invented RS which happens to be top 5 jutsu in NV



Kushina had the ability to bind bijuu like a Gedo statue and she wasn't even an incarnate.

Bee being compatible with 8 tails yet bloodline isn't isn't. The reason kurama made that statement is because his chakra was part of the nurturing Naruto (explains wiskers and 10 month pregnancy). And with him being host was natural and easier because of it.

Him being an incarnate is irrelevant has actually fodder without kurama. He was only able to I can't the jutsu because kurama's chakra raising his reserves and I chasing him in all other aspects etc.

Boruto inherited Naruto's chakra reserves according to his entry + Hyuga prodigious talent(not Hinatao's) and can only make 4 clones.

 

[Chikombo]

Yes, yes it does.

 

[MomoSaka]

Look....Oro either way is a prodigy....He doesn't need a hax dojutsu or a sage body to prove that he's strong....I guess...you got the manga...you can reread it yourself to see how great oro really is....and as for the bloodline part...
Just wait for Mitsuki.....

 

[ChicagoJhawk]

This whole bloodline bs is ruining the series for me

 

[SenseiSama]

He didn't fail at learning SM. He actually finished the training, because gathering and utilizing natural energy is the last step in learning SM. His body was just not strong enough for some reason.

And what's the problem with experimenting when trying to create VERY powerful jutsu? Do you have any proof that Tobirama created his techniques in an hour or a day? You don't, so stop spreading bullshit, especially since Orochimaru's experiments led to creation of one of the strongest thing in NV - immortality.

Also, Orochimaru was said to be a prodigy and a genious that comes once in several generations so stop saying he wasn't talented, because he's one of the most talented characters in the NV and probably the strongest if we count out all clan heritage/alien powers and overpowered Dojutsu.

Re-read the manga, his body got DESTROYED, he had to perform experiments to develop a sealing jutsu that would allow him to use a weaker version of Senjutsu



There's no problem with using experiments, but most of you give Oro the credit he doesn't deserve, he was a ninjutu prodigy but his talent was nowhere near the level that Hagoromo's prodigy descendants have. Sasuke confirmed this and it was the reason Oro was so obssessed with having the body of an Otsutsuki descendant.



Orochimaru was a medical/biology genius and he used that genius to research the nature of chakra, most of y'all confuse that with him being the most naturally talented with jutsu which isn't the case.

None of Hagoromo's descendants performed experiments in order to develop their god tier feats, they relied on their own natural ability, ability that no one outside Indra/Ashura bloodline possessed.

 

[SenseiSama]

This whole bloodline bs is ruining the series for me

Well the whole bloodline bs has been there since part 1, remember when Uchiha, Hyuga and Hashirama were first introduced ? That pretty much sealed the deal on what Kishi was aiming to showcase.

Heck, Naruto is a hard worker but Kurama admitted that Kushina's blood was the reason he was so OP with bijuu chakra. Bloodline is what made Uchiha and Senju the strongest clans in NV and it's what made Naruto the child of prophecy, be mad at Kishi not me

 

[Nattana]

Re-read the manga, his body got DESTROYED, he had to perform experiments to develop a sealing jutsu that would allow him to use a weaker version of Senjutsu



There's no problem with using experiments, but most of you give Oro the credit he doesn't deserve, he was a ninjutu prodigy but his talent was nowhere near the level that Hagoromo's prodigy descendants have. Sasuke confirmed this and it was the reason Oro was so obssessed with having the body of an Otsutsuki descendant.



Orochimaru was a medical/biology genius and he used that genius to research the nature of chakra, most of y'all confuse that with him being the most naturally talented with jutsu which isn't the case.

None of Hagoromo's descendants performed experiments in order to develop their god tier feats, they relied on their own natural ability, ability that no one outside Indra/Ashura bloodline possessed.

Are you really comparing things that they were born with to Orochimaru who had to achieve everything by himself? Of course Rikudo Naruto, Sasuke, Hashirama or other alien-boosted characters are stronger than Orochimaru.

But if you really want to compare talent - Orochimaru is definitely there at the top.

Also, I'm very curious to see where you found that Oro's body was destroyed while training for SM This is very interesting.

 

[MomoSaka]

Re-read the manga, his body got DESTROYED, he had to perform experiments to develop a sealing jutsu that would allow him to use a weaker version of Senjutsu



There's no problem with using experiments, but most of you give Oro the credit he doesn't deserve, he was a ninjutu prodigy but his talent was nowhere near the level that Hagoromo's prodigy descendants have. Sasuke confirmed this and it was the reason Oro was so obssessed with having the body of an Otsutsuki descendant.



Orochimaru was a medical/biology genius and he used that genius to research the nature of chakra, most of y'all confuse that with him being the most naturally talented with jutsu which isn't the case.

None of Hagoromo's descendants performed experiments in order to develop their god tier feats, they relied on their own natural ability, ability that no one outside Indra/Ashura bloodline possessed.

Sasuke???? The same guy that once said "You're underestimating Orochimaru way too much"....the same guy that went to Orochimaru to seek power????.....the guy that Suigetsu once told him that he defeated Orochimaru because his hands were sealed????...you're underestimating Orochimaru's talent and potential sadly.....and overrate Hagoromo's descendants?.....not all of them are strong....not all of them unlocked their powers...the uchiha clan members....most of them got killed by Itachi & Obito...EASILY.....even if they were fully aware of the plan....nothing much would happen....maybe a few of them will survive....but that's it.....the senju.......Tsunade is not stronger than Orochimaru at all....I will say she's at his level but not stronger.....Tobirama.....he was oro's favourite Hokage ( most respected one for him ).....he perfected and mastered his technique easily....Tobirama's version of Edo tensei is weaker than part 1 Edo tensei........There is ABSOLUTELY no proof whether oro's original body can handle sage mode or not....his original body didn't get destroyed....Let's move into Hashirama.....He praised oro.....so.....Both Hashi and Tobirama praised oro....also Hiruzen.....oro surpassed him and Hiruzen praised him....Minato also praised him for finding a way to free the souls......Itachi praised him INDIRECTLY...when he confirmed that doing oral rebirth ONCE alone can take a lot of chakra....let's not forget that fact....that Kabuto, Mitsuki, and probably log ( Mitsuki's older brother ) got a sage mode, thanks to oro's cells and knowledge....otherwise there would absolutely be no snake sage users out there....

 

[Askeladd]

Bee being compatible with 8 tails yet bloodline isn't isn't. The reason kurama made that statement is because his chakra was part of the nurturing Naruto (explains wiskers and 10 month pregnancy). And with him being host was natural and easier because of it.

Him being an incarnate is irrelevant has actually fodder without kurama. He was only able to I can't the jutsu because kurama's chakra raising his reserves and I chasing him in all other aspects etc.

Boruto inherited Naruto's chakra reserves according to his entry + Hyuga prodigious talent

I can't deny canon fact, thanks the Byakugan Princess

Spoiler

“Teamwork and will-power are precious things for a shinobi!” Naruto said, “Cooperating as three people in training as well is…”
“Even if I don’t do any training, I can already make three Kage Bunshin, and Wind Release and Lightning Release, and lately Water Release too!”
These were facts.
Uzumaki Boruto was a prodigy.
If he tried something, he could do it.
A lot of people said that while there were the large chakra reserves he’d inherited from his father, it was probably the Hyuuga blood he’d inherited from his mother Hinata. The Hyuuga were Konoha’s most renowned clan. It wasn’t strange for that kind of genius to manifest from the blood of the Hyuuga’s lady Hinata.

 

[Nick01]

The only people who hated bloodlines were NARUTO faps but then, when his wife and kids ended up having one, the bloodlines were all of a sudden so cool.

You keep telling yourself that.

Bee being compatible with 8 tails yet bloodline isn't isn't.

Not everyone is compatible with a tailed beast. There were failures before Bee. Only a select few can house them. Bee is one of them, and so are the Uzumaki's. Also housing the 9 tails>>>>housing the 8 tails.

The reason kurama made that statement is because his chakra was part of the nurturing Naruto (explains wiskers and 10 month pregnancy). And with him being host was natural and easier because of it.

Yet your statement can't be proved. Kurama said "Kushina", not "oh it's because my chakra was part of nurturing you."

Him being an incarnate is irrelevant has actually fodder without kurama. He was only able to I can't the jutsu because kurama's chakra raising his reserves and I chasing him in all other aspects etc.

You also can't prove this. You have absolutely no idea how Naruto would be without Kurama. He'd still be OP. His reserves would still be huge. That is much more probable than him being fodder without Kurama, which is raw fanfic from you.

Boruto inherited Naruto's chakra reserves according to his entry + Hyuga prodigious talent(not Hinatao's) and can only make 4 clones.

Nope. You're still making stuff up. Post facts instead.

H. - A. - T. - E. - R

Also a troll that spouts fanfic on a daily basis.

 

[salamander uchiha]

You keep telling yourself that.


Not everyone is compatible with a tailed beast. There were failures before Bee. Only a select few can house them. Bee is one of them, and so are the Uzumaki's. Also housing the 9 tails>>>>housing the 8 tails.


Yet your statement can't be proved. Kurama said "Kushina", not "oh it's because my chakra was part of nurturing you."



You also can't prove this. You have absolutely no idea how Naruto would be without Kurama. He'd still be OP. His reserves would still be huge. That is much more probable than him being fodder without Kurama, which is raw fanfic from you.



Nope. You're still making stuff up. Post facts instead.



Also a troll that spouts fanfic on a daily basis.

Even the Uzumaki aren't compatible Kushina was selected because of her chakra chains ability. Do you have a mangascan confirming that the Uzumaki are compatible? Ill wait for it or even a datavook entry confirming the uzumaki were selected because theyre compatible.

Provide the scan confirming because of kushina Naruto is able to do what he does. Because Kurama mentions something else alongside that which is nothing to do with him being a mutt.

As for Naruto being overpowered that's pure fanfic his reserves and stamina stem from the 9 tails. Kakashi confirms the 9 tails is behind Naruto s massive stamina (when he asks Ebisu to train him), the 9 tails is also behind his endurance and recovery speed (being it's host). It heals him whenever has hurt(Jiraiya explaining how it's power works to Yamato and the others). Naruto's natural reserves aren't much. Everyone they've had a bump is after has drawn on the 9 tails chakra. An example couldn't summon bunta after using 9 tails to summon junta he could do it a few chapters later without using the 9 tails chakra(it's obvious the 9 tails increased his chakra capacity fuether). The 4th also designed the seal to leak chakra into Naruto s mixing with his over time raising his reserves. Don't let the fap blind you.

As for the Boruto thing it's from his(Boruto's) databook entry and it clearly states he inherited Naruto's reserves which is a 4 clones limit.

 

[Hagoromo sennin]

Bee being compatible with 8 tails yet bloodline isn't isn't.

I just Have to say something here,you need to Re-read the Manga again fapper...

1.Last i checked,Bee was never a Nine-tailed Jinchuuriki,because if anyone could host Kurama,they wouldn't have gone to the Trouble of using another Uzumaki....

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A kage level shinobi claimed Kurama's Chakra made him numb,something a day old Naruto took without a fuss...
Evidencd to the strong Body he has

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And i like how yamato put it here,The only reason he could stand and complete Ninetails power,is because of the strength of his own chakra.

Him being an incarnate is irrelevant has actually fodder without kurama. He was only able to I can't the jutsu because kurama's chakra raising his reserves and I chasing him in all other aspects etc.

How is it irrelevant? Might i add that Asura could wipe the floor with Indra any day of the week,and as we would have it,Naruto has Asura's chakra in the form of Six paths sage mode,and is privy to a lot of abilities including kekkei genkai and its counter-part,the tottai..?

Naruto is totally reliant on Kyuubi,yet even Sasuke,the one you fapp so dastardly acknowledges Naruto's power

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He was only able to I can't the jutsu because kurama's chakra raising his reserves and I chasing him in all other aspects etc.

yet in his base form,he could throw around S rank Jutsu's with ease.
i smell tottal burthurt here...

Boruto inherited Naruto's chakra reserves according to his entry + Hyuga prodigious talent(not Hinatao's) and can only make 4 clones.

Oh please,as if Sarada can perform the Shadow clone...lol!


The only thing worse than you grammar is your incessant fapping of Sasuke...

 

[Hagoromo sennin]

Are you really comparing things that they were born with to Orochimaru who had to achieve everything by himself? Of course Rikudo Naruto, Sasuke, Hashirama or other alien-boosted characters are stronger than Orochimaru.

But if you really want to compare talent - Orochimaru is definitely there at the top.

Also, I'm very curious to see where you found that Oro's body was destroyed while training for SM This is very interesting.

I don't like Orochi,but i gotta admit,the Man is a more of a genius than either Minato nor Itachi could ever be....

seriously hes not a heavy hitter,but crossing orochimaru is a mistake no one ever wants to make,not even Hokage Naruto,because even in hell,this guy can make your life the living hell.

Even the Uzumaki aren't compatible Kushina was selected because of her chakra chains ability. Do you have a mangascan confirming that the Uzumaki are compatible? Ill wait for it or even a datavook entry confirming the uzumaki were selected because theyre compatible.

Provide the scan confirming because of kushina Naruto is able to do what he does. Because Kurama mentions something else alongside that which is nothing to do with him being a mutt.

As for Naruto being overpowered that's pure fanfic his reserves and stamina stem from the 9 tails. Kakashi confirms the 9 tails is behind Naruto s massive stamina (when he asks Ebisu to train him), the 9 tails is also behind his endurance and recovery speed (being it's host). It heals him whenever has hurt(Jiraiya explaining how it's power works to Yamato and the others). Naruto's natural reserves aren't much. Everyone they've had a bump is after has drawn on the 9 tails chakra. An example couldn't summon bunta after using 9 tails to summon junta he could do it a few chapters later without using the 9 tails chakra(it's obvious the 9 tails increased his chakra capacity fuether). The 4th also designed the seal to leak chakra into Naruto s mixing with his over time raising his reserves. Don't let the fap blind you.

As for the Boruto thing it's from his(Boruto's) databook entry and it clearly states he inherited Naruto's reserves which is a 4 clones limit.

jeeze,this is like staring at a poorly drafted code for 24 hrs...dude,your grammar is horrible.and please use a paragragh or something.it hurts looking at this poorly written jargon.

 

[salamander uchiha]

I just Have to say something here,you need to Re-read the Manga again fapper...

1.Last i checked,Bee was never a Nine-tailed Jinchuuriki,because if anyone could host Kurama,they wouldn't have gone to the Trouble of using another Uzumaki....

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A kage level shinobi claimed Kurama's Chakra made him numb,something a day old Naruto took without a fuss...
Evidencd to the strong Body he has

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And i like how yamato put it here,The only reason he could stand and complete Ninetails power,is because of the strength of his own chakra.



How is it irrelevant? Might i add that Asura could wipe the floor with Indra any day of the week,and as we would have it,Naruto has Asura's chakra in the form of Six paths sage mode,and is privy to a lot of abilities including kekkei genkai and its counter-part,the tottai..?

Naruto is totally reliant on Kyuubi,yet even Sasuke,the one you fapp so dastardly acknowledges Naruto's power

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yet in his base form,he could throw around S rank Jutsu's with ease.
i smell tottal burthurt here...



Oh please,as if Sarada can perform the Shadow clone...lol!


The only thing worse than you grammar is your incessant fapping of Sasuke...

All I'm seeing is fap the reason they chose another Uzumaki is the same reason Minato didn't have time to find anybody else. And he only trusted his son with it. I'm still waiting for the scan that shows only the Uzumaki can house the 9 tails. The Uzumaki were loyal senju cousins.

As for Yamato's claim, your comprehension skills are pathetic because Jiraiya confirms that it's the 9 tails that hurts him and heals him. Apart from the fact that he's trying to convince Naruto not to use the kyubi chakra cloak but I guess that's lost on you.

Ashura the fodder who received a power up from the sage and only managed to stalemate Indra brilliant example sir fapalot.

Naruto throwing around S rank jutsu in base so what Orochimaru uses s rank jutsu in base , Kakashi uses s rank jutsu in base while being drained by the sharingan. Naruto's base was enhanced by the 9 tails unlike theirs again a fact lost on you sir fapalot.

By the way I'm not a Sasuke fan I prefer him to Naruto that is all.

Sarada has more chakra than Boruto who inherited Naruto's chakra and can only perform 4 clones (Naruto's natural limit).

 

[Hagoromo sennin]

All I'm seeing is fap the reason they chose another Uzumaki is the same reason Minato didn't have time to find anybody else. And he only trusted his son with it. I'm still waiting for the scan that shows only the Uzumaki can house the 9 tails. The Uzumaki were loyal senju cousins.

Nice logic though,so They couldn't use anyone from their village and had to wait for kushina to come from Uzushiogakure,right?

As for Yamato's claim, your comprehension skills are pathetic because Jiraiya confirms that it's the 9 tails that hurts him and heals him. Apart from the fact that he's trying to convince Naruto not to use the kyubi chakra cloak but I guess that's lost on you.

I like how easy it was for you to avoid everything Yamato said.Him saying he could withstand Kurama's chakra because of his own
strong chakra....who's got the poor comprehension skills now fap?

Ashura the fodder who received a power up from the sage and only managed to stalemate Indra brilliant example sir fapalot.

Oh scan please,when did he recieve power from Hagoromo? Damn,you are more pathetic than i thought.

Naruto throwing around S rank jutsu in base so what Orochimaru uses s rank jutsu in base , Kakashi uses s rank jutsu in base while being drained by the sharingan. Naruto's base was enhanced by the 9 tails unlike theirs again a fact lost on you sir fapalot.

None of the above mentioned ever used Chakra at an amount BASE Naruto could,please get you facts right.

By the way I'm not a Sasuke fan I prefer him to Naruto that is all.

fanfic

Sarada has more chakra than Boruto who inherited Naruto's chakra and can only perform 4 clones (Naruto's natural limit).

proof? and no shoddy Databook....

Boruto has used more chakra in the series than Sarada...Fact!

i don't even think i can take you serious any longer because your post has no quantifiable proof nor manga panel.