[BET THREAD] Who is Sarada's Birth Mother

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Stop your Narusaku rant,they were 100% wrong like you are even the major Web Commentators agree with may assessment over yours as they agreed with my assessment of NaruHina verses NaruSaku. Stop the denial,it’s happening all over again don’t chose a lie over reality and that leads to Church killing,Theater shooting because you prefer a lie over accepting the truth. Please ask for help before you go to far as others in the past have gone.
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Stop your Narusaku rant,they were 100% wrong like you are even the major Web Commentators agree with may assessment over yours as they agreed with my assessment of NaruHina verses NaruSaku. Stop the denial,it’s happening all over again don’t chose a lie over reality and that leads to Church killing,Theater shooting because you prefer a lie over accepting the truth. Please ask for help before you go to far as others in the past have gone.
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How in the hell did this guy bring up Church shootings and movie theaters?
 

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In this manga? nah. People here bond with the murderer of their loved ones like they´re their long lost brother or something. No point in getting worked out over the "morals" of the story if the story itself is written on a completely amoral basis.
No body is getting worked over the story. They are getting worked over a pairing that could have been handled better without the negetive development it recieved. The thing is majority of the cases you already mentioned actually had some sort of reasonable development for the change to occure. SasuSaku on the other hand didn't. Sasuke just simply said sorry and she forgave him as if nothing ever happen. Sakura should have shown respect for herself by telling Sasuke off for the shit he put her through. Than Sasuke having to express the guit of doing it himself. My point is forgiveness is a good thing. But it has to be earned by some sort of punishment.

Why aren´t you complaining then for example in regards to this between Hina and Naruto? He may have been polite to her, but in more than one panel he basically rubbed on her face how uninportant and irrelevant she was -simply by worshipping the woman that treated him like walking garbage and thinking Hinata was the weirdo for not treating him bad- XDXDXD
Naruto and Hinata had very little interactions in the manga. But when they had them they were wonderful. Sure there are some occasions where Naruto never noticed her or looked at her. He however never said she was annoying, nor did he ever try to rasengan her.

Oh between Naruto did thank her for her Pein efforts. I will put up a scan if I have to.

I don´t remember Naruto apologizing for walking over Hina´s feelings even once. And worse: I never saw her getting -justified may I add- angry at him for not even looking at her devotion acts like they should have been taken. She was crucified with the "eternally devoted doormat" trope on a good portion of the manga.
When did Naruto ever walk over Hinata's feelings? I don't remember a time he did. If you are talking about him hugging Sakura after the Pein fight. Well when the War arc hit he actually thanked her. Naruto treated Hinata far more respectably than Sasuke did to Sakura. Infact there is no comparison between the two because its that bad.

Then you need to read more mangas and not only stick to the "huur durr, macho guys acting cool" ones. Inuyasha was pretty popular in itself.

50 shades is overrated XD.

I rarely read manga. The only one I read is Naruto. I am more of an anime watcher and I can confidently say I have watched over 50 plus series.

@bold: Its what you love to read from SasuSaku. So deal with it.:cool:

Double standards much? Weakness are weakness nonetheless. Sometimes to the BS spewed by a delusional idiot, sometimes to a douche U_U
A girl should show some sort of backbone instead of taking shit from a man. Thats what a strong women is in my eyes. Someone who sees the shit she is taking and acts on it instead of falling victim to the man's hotness.

Pairing thematics are garbage... however parnetage ones are to be taken waaay more seriously.
If I don't like the pairing, I don't like the parenting its that simple. Now shoot me.

What natural chemistry? He never realizing she existed or how much better she was to him as a person until basically pointed to it? XDXDXD

Someone needs to improve their reading comprehension. Reading more mature material than mangas and kiddie boks like the Harry Potter series may help.
Were you sleeping at the moment when Neji died, when Hinata gave that fantastic speech about being a shonobi? Hmmm...? You never saw natural chemistry there?

Ewww... you silly rabbit Harry Potter is for kids.

Don´t you think reading something that I find interesting and exciting -drama in this case- is waaay better than actively looking for it IRL? fiction more than sufices my quote of drama, in my personal life for the contrary I try to get the less stress possible. It works perfect for me.
Well if this is a way for you to relieve stress, it is fine with me. I however have my own personal preference on the whole pairing thing in fiction. I like to see something I could admire and appreciate. NaruHina for me is that pairing. Because I personally have a liking to Hinata the character. Also Naruto reminds me of my childhood in terms of anger issues.
 
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In this manga? nah. People here bond with the murderer of their loved ones like they´re their long lost brother or something. No point in getting worked out over the "morals" of the story if the story itself is written on a completely amoral basis.
This tho i kinda agree and disagree sometimes. Kishi seems to take standards of what constitutes good friendship or good relationship (not romantic relationship) too far. One can even argue Naruto and Sasuke frienship is destroyed cause of a lot putting down, almost insult callings and murder attempts, but most people get the authorial intent that it should be considered endearing as a message, even if all basis of good relationship is lost by current rl moral standards. Sure one can say in fiction some moral standards are stretched as to find it excusable, but it still creates dissonance with the readers. Friendships like NaruSasu even violates self-preservation standard between friends. So there is a reason why people thinks it's crap. However those who only concentrate on the intent or Kishi's message downplay all the other factors as to why it was a bad frienship. The same can be said by the empathy Naruto had with Obito when he killed his parents(with Kurama) and threatening to kill him as an infant and killed a lot of the alliance ninjas. Even he killed Neji (and no one remembers Konan). Naruto bonded with him more than his supposed future wife lol. I think Kishi takes too far the themes and too much the drama for it to be relatable and it ends up being criticized a lot.
 

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This tho i kinda agree and disagree sometimes. Kishi seems to take standards of what constitutes good friendship or good relationship (not romantic relationship) too far. One can even argue Naruto and Sasuke frienship is destroyed cause of a lot putting down, almost insult callings and murder attempts, but most people get the authorial intent that it should be considered endearing as a message, even if all basis of good relationship is lost by current rl moral standards. Sure one can say in fiction some moral standards are stretched as to find it excusable, but it still creates dissonance with the readers. Friendships like NaruSasu even violates self-preservation standard between friends. So there is a reason why people thinks it's crap. However those who only concentrate on the intent or Kishi's message downplay all the other factors as to why it was a bad frienship. The same can be said by the empathy Naruto had with Obito when he killed his parents(with Kurama) and threatening to kill him as an infant and killed a lot of the alliance ninjas. Even he killed Neji (and no one remembers Konan). Naruto bonded with him more than his supposed future wife lol. I think Kishi takes too far the themes and too much the drama for it to be relatable and it ends up being criticized a lot.
You need to re read the manga again..
 

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This tho i kinda agree and disagree sometimes. Kishi seems to take standards of what constitutes good friendship or good relationship (not romantic relationship) too far. One can even argue Naruto and Sasuke frienship is destroyed cause of a lot putting down, almost insult callings and murder attempts, but most people get the authorial intent that it should be considered endearing as a message, even if all basis of good relationship is lost by current rl moral standards. Sure one can say in fiction some moral standards are stretched as to find it excusable, but it still creates dissonance with the readers. Friendships like NaruSasu even violates self-preservation standard between friends. So there is a reason why people thinks it's crap. However those who only concentrate on the intent or Kishi's message downplay all the other factors as to why it was a bad frienship. The same can be said by the empathy Naruto had with Obito when he killed his parents(with Kurama) and threatening to kill him as an infant and killed a lot of the alliance ninjas. Even he killed Neji (and no one remembers Konan). Naruto bonded with him more than his supposed future wife lol. I think Kishi takes too far the themes and too much the drama for it to be relatable and it ends up being criticized a lot.
Kishimoto has called Naruto and Sasuke lunatics himself :lol
 

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Not really.Naruto and Sasuke's relationship being f*cked has been admitted by the author himself
If you pay any attention to Sasuke and the way he talk/treats Naruto from the begining to the end, you will understand better. Cause a few words wont able to describe all of it.
The way Sasuke wants to get rid of Naruto is more like to him Naruto hold much value in his life, a good side, a bright future that deep down he wanted to be like Naruto. But Sasuke is on his journey to the darkness, where will get him stronger, enough to achieve his goal.
When you bond with some one that deep, you will find your self cling to that bond and share your life with it, just like with your family and it's background.
 

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If you pay any attention to Sasuke and the way he talk/treats Naruto from the begining to the end, you will understand better. Cause a few words wont able to describe all of it.
The way Sasuke wants to get rid of Naruto is more like to him Naruto hold much value in his life, a good side, a bright future that deep down he wanted to be like Naruto. But Sasuke is on his journey to the darkness, where will get him stronger, enough to achieve his goal.
When you bond with some one that deep, you will find your self cling to that bond and share your life with it, just like with your family and it's background.
Dude thats all bullshit.Naruto was crazy about Sasuke to the point it was feeling forced and Sasuke was having the hots more for Naruto than Sakura despite all the abuse and beatings they do to each other.Its a unrealistic bond which the author tries to force on us (albeit it has some good moments here nd there) but admits he failed
Hyperventilation,angst?Gimme a break here

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I will admit I am not a fan of there friendship either.
It has its good moments but overall its a forced relationship
 
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You need to re read the manga again..
Such replies amuse me tho. Idk what ur trying to accomplish here.

Kishimoto has called Naruto and Sasuke lunatics himself :lol
I know that. But it's sth that happened cause of his authorial intent. He wanted a dark character that all hopes were lost. He made Sasuke a psycho in KS arc and then Naruto giving him a R & J speech of mutual dying. I know he wanted to portray a frienship about helping ur friend to not walk a dark path. But it was too much.

At the end of the day it proposes a dilemma on the readers. Either u consider their frienship endearing besides him trying to kill him multiple times without struggle, putting him down a lot, or you dont, it was too far for a good frienship is done, it's not even friendship. I can argue that can be applied to SS also altho it has more fundamental flaws to it.
 
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Dude thats all bullshit.Naruto was crazy about Sasuke to the point it was feeling forced and Sasuke was having the hots more for Naruto than Sakura despite all the abuse and beatings they do to each other.Its a unrealistic bond which the author tries to force on us (albeit it has some good moments here nd there) but admits he failed
Hyperventilation,angst?Gimme a break here

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It has its good moments but overall its a forced relationship
Then you dont understand the meaning of lunatics in this case. His speech isnt about how shitty their relationship is but how far they went. Only best friend will able to go that far.
 

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Then you dont understand the meaning of lunatics in this case. His speech isnt about how shitty their relationship is but how far they went. Only best friend will able to go that far.
What part of the words "crazy lunatics" and "I didnt do as well" do you not understand?
 
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