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Lol I feel like a fool nowActually the 153m in japan and 230m worldwide means that DB sold 153m in Japan and 77m (230m-153m) outside Japan
Worldwide kinda includes Japan you know
but nvm if Naruto has sold 113 m in Japan and 90 m in usa + 90 million in other places over the world like vasu says it would be around 300 m in total , which again when looking at wiki it says 150 m tops worldwide so it does not make sense and something is wrong with given numbers
Does wiki actually list the US and rest of the world sales?Lol I feel like a fool now
but nvm if Naruto has sold 113 m in Japan and 90 m in usa + 90 million in other places over the world like vasu says it would be around 300 m in total , which again when looking at wiki it says 150 m tops worldwide so it does not make sense and something is wrong with given numbers
it says this about Naruto: sold over 113 million copies in Japan and over 95 million copies in the US,[17] followed by over 93 million copies worldwide
but on the same page it says in Japan it has 130 million sold
than on another wiki page in a manga sale statistic it says Naruto has sold 150 million worldwide
? what's that all about , I think some Joker is editing cause DB is the undisputed nr 2 and according to those numbers if u count hem together it would be 300 million and thus more than db which is bullshit
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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I don't even need to say anything about this, look Silmarill already point out what kind of joke is Wikipedia..
some expert that researchers huh ?
ah and also One Piece sales news usually come from official jump site or some reliable anime site/forum such as ANN/MH.........
i visit those sites from time to time and never seen about Naruto sold over 188 million outside japan.. what i want to see is that you provide me with statistic that shows where all that number comes from..... i mean when One Piece reach 200m in sales there is a big news everywhere... surely if that number about Naruto sales is true then surely there's some kind of statement about it from jump or other anime site.....
And your point is ? because no One Piece in India that's mean OP is not popular in Asia ?
and also stop posting pm/massage in my profile and told me to reply.
Its nothing like that, at least not for me, am just trying to point out sales outside japan don;t really mean anything compared to the domestic sales, idk about the other guy i mean he's pulling a fake claim about manga sales
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Thanks for once.Actually the 153m in japan and 230m worldwide means that DB sold 153m in Japan and 77m (230m-153m) outside Japan
Worldwide kinda includes Japan you know
It says 113 m + 93+95 m till volume 36,is it that hard to read? The next one where it says 130 million must mean till some more volume,kinda till 60 I guess,and that too only in Japan. And Show me the page where it says 150 million. Will read that and then see what it means.
And like I already provided the proof of it's accuracy,it's not fake. And no,it's not BS. It's fact.
Look in that Best sellers list wiki page you provided,in that chart,point your mouse cursor over the numbers written beside sale figures. It will point out the source,FYI. For OP and DB it says it took worldwide sales in figure while for Naruto it clearly sales,in that article where it took that figure,that it is only from Japan.
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Look I cleared his doubt. And who are you btw? Some OP fanboy in net. And you think your opinion is greater than those researchers [official groups] facts? You really are an idiot.
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My point is it's not as popular in Asia as you claim it to be,either you take my common sense,or sales facts [45 million outside Japan Lol] or whatever. Live in your delusion. I'm done with you. I provided facts,you gave stupid argumentative opinions.
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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-You clear nothing, Wikipedia is still unreliable when it comes to state like this, My opinion ? what opinion ? who is that official group ? how come they know something that Shueisha don't know ?
and you show me nothing about where all that numbers originate... i heard it here 1st, which is funny because not long ago Naruto barely sold 150 million around the globe and now its nearly 300 Million.. surely i would have notice such massive increase...
-So India=Asia bravo....... Southeast Asia market alone is bigger than India Market let alone the likes of Chinese and South Korea... but then again all that matters is the sales in Japan... because sales from there can affect the manga future,
for example you did mention Nura Mago yes ? that manga is cancelled despite very popular abroad..
there also Reborn and other manga that got axed despite being popular abroad
so now u claim Naruto has sold 300 m up to volume 34 ? lol so they have 30 volumes more now so that means it should have almost doubled...
naruto more sales than op and Dragonball combined ?
those numbers are false as hell lol
Animenewsnetwork provides other numbers
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this seems more reliable than wiki pages that give different numbers on different pages
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Totsuka No Tsurugi
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- All i see is an insult and badmouthing... but oh well meet ppl like you every now and then....
again you skipped my question and and try to start something out of nowhere, all i ask is provide me with where that numbers originates.. aside from wikipedia because me of all ppl should know if there is a such massive increase in sales like that, and surely the whole world will know like One Piece reaching 200m and beating Dragon Ball sales... the news is everywhere
but i haven't heard anything about this Naruto sudden increase in sales.. until a few hours ago
- Denial ? i have nothing to deny son... am stating my opinion and you get mad that's all there is to it
- Never have i ever tried to change the subject am saying One Piece rocks in Asia and you said no because there is no one piece in India....
-and yes japan is all that matters... it looks like you don't know anything about Anime/Manga industries i don't know much myself but after seeing you said "Maybe Nura Mago is cancelled" where it was clearly get axed during the Gokaduin Arc... am confident that i know more than you are....
Despite being popular in your India and other country it still got axed because its shit in Japan
lets take another example shall we ? Gintama is very popular in japan, but abroad nearly no one know about it...
despite doing poorly outside japan and it still running for 9 years and counting in WSJ, and have over 200 episode of anime and 2 movie adaptation....
7th Biggest OP Fan
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Let me help clarify what others are saying here. Wiki is a bad source for information, despite them having links.
When you go to the wiki page and click the [17] it takes you to the bottom of the page where it is linked and where they got that information.
HOWEVER, when you go to click said link,
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is where it takes you. As you can see, there aren't any numbers there or some kind of article that backs up those numbers. This is what everyone is saying. They want you to find another source where these numbers have been said because they are just ridiculous. Since You said the Britannica Encyclopedia backs up these numbers, it shouldn't be too hard to find where they are.
Okay I'm now gonna reexplain why Japanese numbers matter more than anything else (even though those Naruto numbers aren't reliable in the slightest)
If island A was very successful in music and had Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Queen and Led Zeppelin sold 500m on that island, PF 300m and Queen 200m
Than Queen manages to break onto the neighboring islands and caused a queen mania and sold 400m albums but the other 2 didn't break onto the other markets so Queen is now in the lead
But that doesn't matter one bit because chances are that if the other two broke onto the other markets they would have sold more than Queen, most likely in the same ratio as on the home island
But the other islands never found out about the other 2 bands so Queen sales on other islands have absolutely no meaning
I can't dumb it down any more than this
And it's the same with manga, a large majority of western fans only know naruto, blech, dbz and now aot so naturally the sales of them should be higher relative to any other manga because the average western fan simply does not know enough about manga
If island A was very successful in music and had Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Queen and Led Zeppelin sold 500m on that island, PF 300m and Queen 200m
Than Queen manages to break onto the neighboring islands and caused a queen mania and sold 400m albums but the other 2 didn't break onto the other markets so Queen is now in the lead
But that doesn't matter one bit because chances are that if the other two broke onto the other markets they would have sold more than Queen, most likely in the same ratio as on the home island
But the other islands never found out about the other 2 bands so Queen sales on other islands have absolutely no meaning
I can't dumb it down any more than this
And it's the same with manga, a large majority of western fans only know naruto, blech, dbz and now aot so naturally the sales of them should be higher relative to any other manga because the average western fan simply does not know enough about manga
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You should develop a reading habit. Go through my last reply thoroughly please. And see where those results are taken. The source you provided is only for Japan. Are you for real or what? It says 300 million for Onepiece when it's been stated officially that it sold 345?
The funny part is I'm not saying a damn thing,just stating the obvious. I believe in Wikipedia because of those research.
I get what you're trying to say but unlike those two songs,in your example,which never broke into other parts,OP did. Your point? Now the situation becomes complete opposite.Okay I'm now gonna reexplain why Japanese numbers matter more than anything else (even though those Naruto numbers aren't reliable in the slightest)
If island A was very successful in music and had Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Queen and Led Zeppelin sold 500m on that island, PF 300m and Queen 200m
Than Queen manages to break onto the neighboring islands and caused a queen mania and sold 400m albums but the other 2 didn't break onto the other markets so Queen is now in the lead
But that doesn't matter one bit because chances are that if the other two broke onto the other markets they would have sold more than Queen, most likely in the same ratio as on the home island
But the other islands never found out about the other 2 bands so Queen sales on other islands have absolutely no meaning
I can't dumb it down any more than this
And it's the same with manga, a large majority of western fans only know naruto, blech, dbz and now aot so naturally the sales of them should be higher relative to any other manga because the average western fan simply does not know enough about manga
AND PLEASE DON'T MAKE WIKIPEDIA'S WORDS MY WORD 'CAUSE ALL I'M SAYING IS THEY ARE LEGIT OTHERWISE PROVIDE ME THE SALES OF WORLDWIDE FOR NARUTO. BECAUSE EVERYWHERE,IN NARUTO'S CASE,IT ONLY TELLS THE SALES OF JAPAN.
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Not trying to be rude or anything but OP manga went out in USA first,right? After DB? Yet it didn't made much. As a matter of fact it's out there in every major countries still leave japan and it's only 45 million. Now when I say **** the sales OP fans come up with sales but when I'm actually providing sales facts they come up with their opinions. Now me personally I don't give a flying **** about Japan's sales at all or even sales in general. I am just saying that WORLD'S OPINION > JAPAN'S OPINION. And how do you determine those opinions? By looking at various manga sites where people actually vote for their favourites.
And FYI I am not talking about anime.
Not trying to be rude or anything but OP manga went out in USA first,right? After DB? Yet it didn't made much. As a matter of fact it's out there in every major countries still leave japan and it's only 45 million. Now when I say **** the sales OP fans come up with sales but when I'm actually providing sales facts they come up with their opinions. Now me personally I don't give a flying **** about Japan's sales at all or even sales in general. I am just saying that WORLD'S OPINION > JAPAN'S OPINION. And how do you determine those opinions? By looking at various manga sites where people actually vote for their favourites.
And FYI I am not talking about anime.
Japan's statistics are the one that matters and it's all about their opinion when it cones to manga, that's why selling outside has such little importance. OP came on top out of all these mangas, where naruto is doing good where people barely know about other mangas lmao. And let's not forget what 4kids did to One Piece in US. Had it not been for that, OP would've been much more popular there by now, something which has been delayed but is inevitable.
Not being rude went out the window when you called me a dumbass
You're not providing sales facts you're providing random numbers when there actually was info from shueisha for OP to be the one manga getting more sales than DB
And as far as I have seen you are the one who cares about sales on this forum, always posting sales of Naruto
And you still have no idea what I was talking about which I find kind of funny
I'll dumb it down again:
Average western manga fan: knows Naruto, DB and Bleach, votes for one of them
Average Japan fan: knows every manga in WSJ and dozens on top of that, votes for one of them
If the average US manga fan knew as many manga series as the average Japan fan OP wouldn't be the only manga to beat Naruto
@alagon
It's kind of funny how you think that's the case about average western and average japan one. As for sales I am not spouting nonsense just putting out what wikipedia says. Maybe naruto is not greater than OP in sales but it's definitely is than db. I say it's roughly around 300 million[If you were to be neglect wikipedia and trust NB source] now. Anyway no reason to argue with you op fans anymore who licks japan's D. 24/7/365 though. I have provided source,you provided baseless argumentative opinions.
It's kind of funny how you think that's the case about average western and average japan one. As for sales I am not spouting nonsense just putting out what wikipedia says. Maybe naruto is not greater than OP in sales but it's definitely is than db. I say it's roughly around 300 million[If you were to be neglect wikipedia and trust NB source] now. Anyway no reason to argue with you op fans anymore who licks japan's D. 24/7/365 though. I have provided source,you provided baseless argumentative opinions.
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