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Death Note every other anime is cancer
 

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Umibozu was not doing jack shit, he wasnt even introduced. What you are saying is exactly what I was referring to. Bleach does it all the time, I call it false events. Events that were not hinted at or shown, and then upon introduction of that character, the author adds the details of the events later.

This is completely different from what Oda does. That is Kubo level writing.

As for bold, that is so wrong it hurts.
Dragon was not introduced, does that mean that at the flash back in zoros training he was actually not in terminal saving sabo? This may not ve accurate as I dont remmeber exactly but you get tbe point.


Also how is luffy, now directly any closer to the one piece or even becoming the pirate king aside from entering the new world (which took quite some time) and getting stronger(a requirement for every MC of any battle manga)?

But yeah, overalls the it's based on prespective I guess, to me it didnt sound like alot but oh well, to each their own
 
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Dragon was not introduced, does that mean that at the flash back in zoros training he was actually not in terminal saving sabo?


Also how is luffy, now directly any closer to the one piece or even becoming the pirate king aside from entering the new world (which took quite some time) and getting stronger(a requirement for every MC of any battle manga)?

Dragon was introduced before Luffy even entered the grand line that's chapter 100. Horrible example. That is the difference between Oda and just about any other battle shonen mangaka.

As for Zoro's flashback if he was placed there and there is proof of it, sure. If not then it doesn't mean jack shit. There are "events" happening always in every single show, but nothing to show for it.

Getting closer to becoming the PK has everything to do with getting closer to Raftel (New World), and getting stronger (being able to fight off anything that stands in your way). Lmfao that doesn't even make sense, you want to exclude two of the most important factors to PK, and say he isn't closer?
 

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Dragon was introduced before Luffy even entered the grand line that's chapter 100. Horrible example. That is the difference between Oda and just about any other battle shonen mangaka.

As for Zoro's flashback if he was placed there and there is proof of it, sure. If not then it doesn't mean jack shit. There are "events" happening always in every single show, but nothing to show for it.

Getting closer to becoming the PK has everything to do with getting closer to Raftel (New World), and getting stronger (being able to fight off anything that stands in your way). Lmfao that doesn't even make sense, you want to exclude two of the most important factors to PK, and say he isn't closer?
Showing him isnt tbe same as introducing him, he was introduced in water 7 arc by garb, what happenedin loughe town was not a character introduction Lml

No it's just that in every battle manga getting stronger is a nesscity thus you cannot count it as plotprogression, though I'll give you gettin closer to raffle(not even close with the four poneglyph one in zou and others owned b yonko) but either way the V.S yonko saga expanded alot on the plot, but aside from getting closer to the place of the treasure(which is only a secondary goal coming right after becoming the pk), the title itself is barely any closer than it was back in east
 

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Showing him isnt tbe same as introducing him, he was introduced in water 7 arc by garb, what happenedin loughe town was not a character introduction Lml

No it's just that in every battle manga getting stronger is a nesscity thus you cannot count it as plotprogression, though I'll give you gettin closer to raffle(not even close with the four poneglyph one in zou and others owned b yonko) but either way the V.S yonko saga expanded alot on the plot, but aside from getting closer to the place of the treasure(which is only a secondary goal coming right after becoming the pk), the titlw is still quite far isn't it?

Irrelevant to the point. He was brought into the series, introduced as a mystery, and then finally touched back up on many chapters later. There is no out of the ass, "he's been there since the beginning" experience.

The entire point for having him show up in loguetown was for the purpose of explaining the situation later on, and him existing and doing things in the verse was confirmed by his initial appearance, so we can say Oda did not just create him on the spot when he was actually introduced formally.

Its probably closer than you think, but why does it matter if getting stronger is granted? I'm not trying to prove to you OP is oh so special or amazing with plot progression lol, I think you have the wrong impression here.
 

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One piece is cool and all, but katekyo hitman reborn was prettyyyy goood especially when jager went ham
 

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Anime : FMAB

Manga : Still naruto for me
 

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Luffy isn't in his finest prime. There still that DF awakening. It bothers me that we're close to end. Best manga, yeah. But definitely not best anime. Not after Enies Lobby.
 

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At least back the statement up with facts and numbers for argument's sake and no it's not the greatest anime/manga.
 

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Cowboy Bebop. Bang.
 

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Clicked on this thread expecting to find some anime to watch
found a huge shitstorm instead
 

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I don´t like anime, so manga for me.

While I know better stuff than One Piece, at the end of the day I am still looking forward to it the most. It´s like a marriage compared to a summer fling, you just know it´s the one for you. So yeah, it´s the best for me, even though it has its faults.
 

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Kingdom is the best manga in my opinion
 
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