Ay + Mei V.S Deidera + Curse seal Sasuke

[EZQ]

MS does not make you faster where are you getting this information from? Lol stronger chakra no all Karin said was that Sasuke chakra held the presences of evil. MS is not EMS. I'ts all the same chakra. V2 needed his shunsui just to get one off on him. Give him CM2 and he dodges that blitz and sends a Senjutsu inchanced Chidori into his chest. Like he did in cannon.

Why do you keep bringing up Itachi when CM2 Sasuke didn't even engage him in cqc. Further more Itachi cqc feats puts him on the same tier(Not saying he's just as fast) as v2 Ei since he went head to head with KM Naruto. He also effortlessly dodged Killer bee assault that completely humiliated Sasuke.


He dodges simple. He don't have to tank what he can dodge.

lmao bruuuhh

 

[Zavage10]

Lmao.

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"Colder and thicker". Thicker chakra is more potent chakra. The stronger an individuals chakra is the better their physical abilities and Ninjutsu become. MS Sasuke before unlocking V2 Susanoo>Hebi Sasuke in chakra potency. Thus MS Sasuke is faster.

Not to mention the reason why Sasuke went from being able to manifest a Ribcage Susanoo to being able to manifest a V4 Susanoo is because his chakra powers up, allowing him to use a stronger version of said techinique.

The rest is irrelevant as you can't actually prove CM2 Sasuke is fast enough to dodge Ay. Zero proof that CM2's boost would let him go from being unable to perceive Ay to being able to perceive, physically react and dodge.

Stop making excuses and posting about misconceptions as if you know what you are talking about.

Ms just grants new jutsu. Cm is an enhancer. Jirobo said that his cm enhanced all of his physical abilities ten times over at the least.

 

[KidGamer65]

Ms just grants new jutsu. Cm is an enhancer. Jirobo said that his cm enhanced all of his physical abilities ten times over at the least.

Lmao. I wonder why people even bother quoting me when they aren't going to address the post they are quoting.

 

[neosmith500]

Ms just grants new jutsu. Cm is an enhancer. Jirobo said that his cm enhanced all of his physical abilities ten times over at the least.

MS increases Chakra potency which enhances physical attributes as Chakra constitutes to Physical prowess unless u think MS wasn't the reason base 3T Sasuke all of a sudden had darker and thicker/stronger Chakra than his CM2 in which case u would have to explain that reason.

Give Lee thicker and more potent Chakra here and his physical power would obviously be enhanced..

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[Brother Numpsay]

Can someone explain to me why Sasuke CS Katon beat MS Itachi Katon?

 

[NarutoX28]

Can someone explain to me why Sasuke CS Katon beat MS Itachi Katon?

Likely due to Itachi's crippling sickness.

 

[sayian]

Likely due to Itachi's crippling sickness.

or held back.

 

[neosmith500]

or held back.

Or both..

 

[Unorthodox]

Can someone explain to me why Sasuke CS Katon beat MS Itachi Katon?

Right EJ lol.

Or both..

Or none what type of since does that make he holds back a katon to use Amaterasu? also being sick does not make your jutsu weak.


This is pure nonsense MS Sasuke being faster than Hebi CM2 Sasuke because he has thicker chakra? lol Karin was absolutely referring to Sasuke going over to the dark side hence when he used the CM2 he was evil per say. What feat does MS Sasuke have that put's him over Hebi?

Anyways team wins c3 wipes them clean off the map.

 

[EZQ]

MS increases Chakra potency which enhances physical attributes as Chakra constitutes to Physical prowess unless u think MS wasn't the reason base 3T Sasuke all of a sudden had darker and thicker/stronger Chakra than his CM2 in which case u would have to explain that reason.

Give Lee thicker and more potent Chakra here and his physical power would obviously be enhanced..

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This point is proven true when Lee got Naruto's chakra and with just a kick he sliced Madara in two.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

or held back.

Then why did Itachi to lit sasuke ablaze with amaterasu? Heck he used amaterasu to win the fireball clash that shows Itachi wanted to best sasuke in the fireball clash so he didn't hold back. Sauce was just stronger in that aspect.

OP: Team 1

 

[KidGamer65]

Right EJ lol.



Or none what type of since does that make he holds back a katon to use Amaterasu? also being sick does not make your jutsu weak.


This is pure nonsense MS Sasuke being faster than Hebi CM2 Sasuke because he has thicker chakra? lol Karin was absolutely referring to Sasuke going over to the dark side hence when he used the CM2 he was evil per say. What feat does MS Sasuke have that put's him over Hebi?

Anyways team wins c3 wipes them clean off the map.

@bold: Do you know what thicker means? She stated colder AND thicker.

Colder-The evil feel.
Thicker-The power.

So she was obviously talking about both if you'd just read the Manga instead of complaining about what doesn't agree with your views on the Manga.


And all you guys stop mentioning Katon as if it makes sense. Databook states that when elemental jutsu of the same nature release clash, the one that has the most chakra will come up on top. If strength of chakra determined all Ninjutsu clashes why would Sasuke and Naruto consistently clash equally w/ Rasengan and Chidori? :lol. Why would fodders w/ an equal Katon in terms of amount clash equally with Madara? :lol And I could go on about how this type of counter is pure garbage.

 

[TRE MERCER]

1. Wasn't talking about reserves in terms of amount. So that doesn't address what I stated. I suggest you read that again.

I know what you was talking about you was saying he has more chakra or that it's more potent when in fact nothing suggest MS changes the users physical stats at all so drop this argument.

2. Wasn't talking about reserves in terms of amount. So this also doesn't address my statements.

3. Sasuke being able to perceive Naruto w/ the 3rd Tomoe boost=/=MS Sasuke being able to perceive Ay w/ the CM boost until you can prove the difference between 2-Tomoe Sasuke and KN0 is the same as Ay
Your logic: MS Sasuke can't perceive Obito, but if he gets CM he can because VoTe Sasuke perceived Naruto w/ the 3rd tomoe.

:lol Please don't continue this.

No you don't get what im saying. Sasuke not being able to see Ei move is = to Him when he's younger not being able to see Naruto move. Add cm2 to both of those instances and he easily see Ei move it's that simple.

What does Obito have to do with anything.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Can someone explain to me why Sasuke CS Katon beat MS Itachi Katon?

KG just pulled this logic out of no where. It was never stated or implied that MS increase speed at all.

 

[KidGamer65]

I know what you was talking about you was saying he has more chakra or that it's more potent when in fact nothing suggest MS changes the users physical stats at all so drop this argument.

2. Wasn't talking about reserves in terms of amount. So this also doesn't address my statements.


No you don't get what im saying. Sasuke not being able to see Ei move is = to Him when he's younger not being able to see Naruto move. Add cm2 to both of those instances and he easily see Ei move it's that simple.

What does Obito have to do with anything.

Yes it does. When someone's chakra gets more potent their physical abilities increase. That's why RG Sasuke>EMS Sasuke>MS Sasuke in speed. That's why using Bijuu chakra buffs you in the first place. :lol I've yet to see an actual argument from you or the people liking your posts on both fronts, but what can I say?


And I get exactly what you are saying, it just makes no sense for the reasons already explained, so drop this dumb argument. A buff being able to let his younger self see Naruto doesn't mean the same buff will let him see Ay.

And me mentioning Obito was an example, one you obviously didn't read cause if you read you wouldn't be asking dumb questions like "how is Obito relevant?". By your logic I'd be saying that since a buff let VoTE Sasuke perceive KN0, that a CM2 buff would let MS Sasuke perceive Juubito. That is false. That is why your logic is trash.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Yes it does. When someone's chakra gets more potent their physical abilities increase. That's why RG Sasuke>EMS Sasuke>MS Sasuke in speed. That's why using Bijuu chakra buffs you in the first place. :lol I've yet to see an actual argument from you or the people liking your posts on both fronts, but what can I say?

Still trying this huh?

Trying to use Rinnegan Sasuke as an example is terrible for the following reasons.

Outside sources of chakra always boost a different person/user physical stats and strength. Prime example is when Kurama and Naruto gave out chakra cloaks. They boosted everybody abilities. Same reasons why KM Naruto is much faster than base Naruto because an outside chakra force was impowering his body. That is the entire reason they got faster. How dare you try to compare the gap of MS chakra and 3tomoe chakra to EMS Sasuke and Rikudo chakra terrible comparison.

And I get exactly what you are saying, it just makes no sense for the reasons already explained, so drop this dumb argument. A buff being able to let his younger self see Naruto doesn't mean the same buff will let him see Ay.

What don't you get. In both scenes Sasuke wouldn't be able to see his opponent attacking. Add CM and the opponent that he couldn't see attacking is easily seen what don't you get about this?

And me mentioning Obito was an example, one you obviously didn't read cause if you read you wouldn't be asking dumb questions like "how is Obito relevant?". By your logic I'd be saying that since a buff let VoTE Sasuke perceive KN0, that a CM2 buff would let MS Sasuke perceive Juubito. That is false. That is why your logic is trash.

No it wouldn't since EMS Sasuke is clearly faster than MS Sasuke so your wrong again.

 

[KidGamer65]

Still trying this huh?

Trying to use Rinnegan Sasuke as an example is terrible for the following reasons.

Outside sources of chakra always boost a different person/user physical stats and strength. Prime example is when Kurama and Naruto gave out chakra cloaks. They boosted everybody abilities. Same reasons why KM Naruto is much faster than base Naruto because an outside chakra force was impowering his body. That is the entire reason they got faster. How dare you try to compare the gap of MS chakra and 3tomoe chakra to EMS Sasuke and Rikudo chakra terrible comparison.


What don't you get. In both scenes Sasuke wouldn't be able to see his opponent attacking. Add CM and the opponent that he couldn't see attacking is easily seen what don't you get about this?


No it wouldn't since EMS Sasuke is clearly faster than MS Sasuke so your wrong again.

Lmao. They got boosted because it increases the power of their chakra, not because it's an outside source. Another baseless assumption that also makes zero sense. And no one compared the actual power ups, but considering you have a hard time reading I'm not surprised you came to this conclusion.


The rest is the same idiotic argumentation. Provide feats that let CM2 Sasuke react to V2 Ay or don't quote me.

And that's exactly what your logic implies. Again, provide feats or don't post. Your CM example is something only a retard would argue. Imagine being this desperate to avoid admitting that you are wrong. :lol

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Lmao. They got boosted because it increases the power of their chakra, not because it's an outside source. Another baseless assumption that also makes zero sense. And no one compared the actual power ups, but considering you have a hard time reading I'm not surprised you came to this conclusion.


The rest is the same idiotic argumentation. Provide feats that let CM2 Sasuke react to V2 Ay or don't quote me.

And that's exactly what your logic implies. Again, provide feats or don't post. Your CM example is something only a retard would argue. Imagine being this desperate to avoid admitting that you are wrong. :lol

To end this argument used the bee vs sasuke fight .bee carved sasuke up at base speed . By was able to dodge his buji mode attack why because the shraigan track linear movements easy hell sasuke even said that himself

 

[TRE MERCER]

Lmao. They got boosted because it increases the power of their chakra, not because it's an outside source. Another baseless assumption that also makes zero sense. And no one compared the actual power ups, but considering you have a hard time reading I'm not surprised you came to this conclusion.

Wrong again. They got boosted since it was an outside force. How is it baseless when it has been shown to work in cannon. Outside force(Kurama chakra) is activated inside Naruto which makes him more faster once he enters KM and BM. Outside force(Rikudo chakra) entered Sasuke,Naruto,Juubito,Madara and they all got faster it's so simple. The only reason EMS Sasuke is faster than MS is because of the combined chakra of his and Itachi's. There is no difference between MS and Hebi Sasuke in terms of speed.

And that's exactly what your logic implies. Again, provide feats or don't post. Your CM example is something only a retard would argue. Imagine being this desperate to avoid admitting that you are wrong. :lol

Your wrong though. Juubi Jin Obito was still to fast for Sasuke to catch even with CM AND Kurama. The speed gab difference between Juubito and EMS Sasuke is way larger than the speed gab between MS Sasuke and Ei.

Based off what you ask? Based off the fact that Juubito blitz Tobirama who was said to be superior to EMS Madara in terms of speed.

 

[KidGamer65]

Wrong again. They got boosted since it was an outside force. How is it baseless when it has been shown to work in cannon. Outside force(Kurama chakra) is activated inside Naruto which makes him more faster once he enters KM and BM. Outside force(Rikudo chakra) entered Sasuke,Naruto,Juubito,Madara and they all got faster it's so simple. The only reason EMS Sasuke is faster than MS is because of the combined chakra of his and Itachi's. There is no difference between MS and Hebi Sasuke in terms of speed.

Your wrong though. Juubi Jin Obito was still to fast for Sasuke to catch even with CM AND Kurama. The speed gab difference between Juubito and EMS Sasuke is way larger than the speed gab between MS Sasuke and Ei.

Based off what you ask? Based off the fact that Juubito blitz Tobirama who was said to be superior to EMS Madara in terms of speed.

Based on nothing nor does it make sense. The source is irrelevant. The power is why they get more power in the first place. :lol So please stop pulling shit out of your ass.

Yet you can't prove said gap is small enough for CM2 to let Sasuke react, so as usual you sound dumb. Like I said, get me those feats or just don't bother responding.