Attacks vs Susanoo

[ARGUS]

This hell stab is so overrated. I remember when Kifflom said 3rd Raikage can tank a PS slice l00l.

Lol itss funny how you have to make things up just to get to me, when i clearlly said that he would nearly die from the slash, if he doesnt die,

besides my flaws are no where near as worse as urs

 

[KidGamer65]

This hell stab is so overrated. I remember when Kifflom said 3rd Raikage can tank a PS slice l00l.

Is hellstab really that strong? O_O

I agree with KG's thoughts on this, bar Hell Stab.

FRS>Danzo's Fuuton, and Danzo's Fuuton opened up a hole in V3 Susanoo. FRS would do much worse if not completely destroy it. Nukite pierced through the Raikage even though he tanked FRS with no damage, so either Nukite=FRS, but Nukite focuses all that power into the tip of the blade, thus yielding greater results, or Nukite>FRS, and it focuses that power into the tip, yielding much much greater results.

Either way, it'll pierce right through V3 with ease if FRS can do heavy damage to it, and it'd tear through V4 as well.

 

[wael reda]

What is your prove that FRS cutting power is better than danzo's futon ?
Also raiki is clearly better piercing jutsu than danzo's futuun ,kisami said that the piercing power of lightening is much stronger than that of wind ,let alone that raiki isn't a normal lightening jutsu but it has 2 sorts of manipulation and was said to pierce through anything
Raiden which is one of raiki variants cut through v2 clock arms ,v1 clock has much better feats than RIBCAGE and equal to v1 susano ,let alone v2 clock which is supposed to be much more durable than v1 clock and tanked 6kn's bombs at the centre

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

Lol itss funny how you have to make things up just to get to me, when i clearlly said that he would nearly die from the slash, if he doesnt die,

besides my flaws are no where near as worse as urs

With all due respect, he would not just be severe condition, if he got hit by PS slash head on, there would be nothing left of his body. 3rd Raikages limit is FRS and PS slash >>>>>>> FRS.

 

[ARGUS]

With all due respect, he would not just be severe condition, if he got hit by PS slash head on, there would be nothing left of his body. 3rd Raikages limit is FRS and PS slash >>>>>>> FRS.

@Bold - No, it isnt, the raikage was unfazed by FRS, then how does that make it his limit???
and i dont ssee what you are trying to argue with me here, when i know welll enough that PS slash would wreck the raikage

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

@Bold - No, it isnt, the raikage was unfazed by FRS, then how does that make it his limit???
and i dont ssee what you are trying to argue with me here, when i know welll enough that PS slash would wreck the raikage

The 3rd Raikage's armour was gone, in base, a Fūton Casket broke him. PS Slash >>>>> FRS + Fūton Casket. I am just saying, the slash won't just kill him, it will outright decimate him.

 

[LuckyMan]

The 3rd Raikage's armour was gone, in base, a Fūton Casket broke him. PS Slash >>>>> FRS + Fūton Casket. I am just saying, the slash won't just kill him, it will outright decimate him.

Dodai disagrees.

 

[wael reda]

@Bold - No, it isnt, the raikage was unfazed by FRS, then how does that make it his limit???
and i dont ssee what you are trying to argue with me here, when i know welll enough that PS slash would wreck the raikage

temari's wind damaged the third ,that if he was alive ,that would have put him down
You can see him regenerating after her attack

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[ARGUS]

temari's wind damaged the third ,that if he was alive ,that would have put him down
You can see him regenerating after her attack

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The raikage didnt amp himself in the raiton armor when he was attacked with the temaris fuuton thats why,
his durability is dramatically increased when he amps himself in his RNY which was part of the reason why he tanked a much stronger attack afterwards

The 3rd Raikage's armour was gone, in base, a Fūton Casket broke him. PS Slash >>>>> FRS + Fūton Casket. I am just saying, the slash won't just kill him, it will outright decimate him.

Wrong, just like above,
the raikage was attacked by temaris futon when he didnt shroud himself in his raiton armor
and the slash would chop him in half, yes

 

[BlacLord™]

FRS>Danzo's Fuuton, and Danzo's Fuuton opened up a hole in V3 Susanoo. FRS would do much worse if not completely destroy it. Nukite pierced through the Raikage even though he tanked FRS with no damage, so either Nukite=FRS, but Nukite focuses all that power into the tip of the blade, thus yielding greater results, or Nukite>FRS, and it focuses that power into the tip, yielding much much greater results.

Either way, it'll pierce right through V3 with ease if FRS can do heavy damage to it, and it'd tear through V4 as well.

Danzo's Fuuton only managed to open up the outer layer of complete Susano'o because of Baku's enormous suction power pulling Susano'o inwards from the front.

 

[wael reda]

The raikage didnt amp himself in the raiton armor when he was attacked with the temaris fuuton thats why,
his durability is dramatically increased when he amps himself in his RNY which was part of the reason why he tanked a much stronger attack afterwards

Maybe you are right
But I don't think the lightening armor could have made a big difference as wind>lightening so temari's futuun would go through the lightening armor and damage the raikage too

 

[ARGUS]

Maybe you are right
But I don't think the lightening armor could have made a big difference as wind>lightening so temari's futuun would go through the lightening armor and damage the raikage too

temaris fuuton is nowhere near FRS
yet the raikage still tanked FRS when he amped himself in the armor,

the raikages base durablility is also very high, but the armor just increases it even more

 

[wael reda]

temaris fuuton is nowhere near FRS
yet the raikage still tanked FRS when he amped himself in the armor,

the raikages base durablility is also very high, but the armor just increases it even more

Temari's futuun isn't that weak,its cutting power is impressive however you have a point

 

[Jimihendrix]

I don't think sasuke's Rinne susanoo can survive any of those, it simply lacks the feats U_U

 

[KidGamer65]

Danzo's Fuuton only managed to open up the outer layer of complete Susano'o because of Baku's enormous suction power pulling Susano'o inwards from the front.

I know that.

 

[KidGamer65]

What is your prove that FRS cutting power is better than danzo's futon ?

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Just read that thread.

lso raiki is clearly better piercing jutsu than danzo's futuun ,kisami said that the piercing power of lightening is much stronger than that of wind ,let alone that raiki isn't a normal lightening jutsu but it has 2 sorts of manipulation and was said to pierce through anything
Raiden which is one of raiki variants cut through v2 clock arms ,v1 clock has much better feats than RIBCAGE and equal to v1 susano ,let alone v2 clock which is supposed to be much more durable than v1 clock and tanked 6kn's bombs at the centre

Lightning being better for piercing than Wind doesn't mean that all Lightning Ninjutsu penetrate and deal more damage than all Fuuton. So no. Raikiri isn't anywhere near FRS or Nukite when it comes to power.

Raiden cut chakra arms, it already showed Raikiri being tanked by the bod of the cloak.

 

[Sweg]

Attacks vs Susanoo

Everyone here on the base has very mixed views as to how most of the attacks fare off against susanoo, so here it is,

Whats the strongest variant of susanoo the following attacks can destroy???

Variants of Susanoo

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• Ribcage Susanoo
• V2 Skeletal Susanoo
• V3 Susanoo
• V3 legged susanoo
• V4 Susanoo
• EMS Sasukes PS
• Madaras PS
• Kakashis Rikudo PS
• Sasukes Rinnegan PS

ATTACKS (not placed in order)

• V2 Bees Lariat - Ribcage
• Suiton: Suidanha - Nothing
• Joki Boy - Ribcage
• Shurado Missiles - Potentially Ribcage, chances are it doesn't do anything
• Senpo Chou Oodama Rasengan - Cracks Ribcage, does slight damage to v2, if any.
• Raikiri - Slight damage to Ribcage
• C4/C3 - C4 does nothing as it was portrayed to be larger in size to human cells. Human cells>Air molecules carrying c4. No reason to believe it passes along with the molecules. C3 busts v2, potentially slight damage to v3.
• KN6 TBB - Destroys v2 and some damage to v3.
• Boss Sized ST - Chou Shinra Tensei destroys a v2.
• FRS/COFRS - Destroys v2, slight damage to v3. No reason to believe it can damage a v3, let alone v4. Odama Rasengan was barely ripping through v1. Chou Odama should crack it, but won't touch a v2. FRS would Destroys the v2, Chou Odama FRS should destroy v3, and do slight damage to a v4.
• 8-tails whirlwind - Potentially damages Ribcage, may not depending on if it makes initial impact or not.
• Edo Hiruzens 5 elemental attack - Destroys Ribcage.
• Full powered Jinton - Spanks anything bar unstabalised PS.
• Naruto and Bees Full Powered TBB - Anything bar Rikudo/Rinnegan enhanced PS.
• Juubitos Quad TBB - Anything whatsoever.
• Chojo Kobetsu - Rips through anything bar Rikudo/Rinnegan enhanced PS.
• BDRS Demolishes any PS.
• Night Moth - Anything gets demolished, in exception of Rikudo/Rinnegan enhanced PS.
• Evening elephant - PS tanks.
• V1 Juubis Beam - PS survives.
• GKF - Destroys a v3, gets tanked by a v4.
• One Fingered Hell Stab - Slight damage to v4.
• Kaguyas Bone - Spanks all.

 

[wael reda]

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Lightning being better for piercing than Wind doesn't mean that all Lightning Ninjutsu penetrate and deal more damage than all Fuuton. So no. Raikiri isn't anywhere near FRS or Nukite when it comes to power.

Raiden cut chakra arms, it already showed Raikiri being tanked by the bod of the cloak.

you are wrong ,normal piercing lightening jutsu is stronger than normal piercing wind jutsu
raiki which has 2 kinds of manipulation is much stronger piercing jutsu than danzo’s futuun which damaged v3

no,it is the opposite ,FRS piercing power is nowhere raiki
i can see raiki piercing the third as the hell stab did

this panel wasnt clear ,if raiki was really tanked,kakashi wouldnt have tried to attack again by raiki the next panel

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if raiki was really tanked,kishi would have made it clear or would have made kakashi comment on that

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

Wrong, just like above,
the raikage was attacked by temaris futon when he didnt shroud himself in his raiton armor
and the slash would chop him in half, yes

Ummm did you read what I said? Fūton Casket > Base Sandaime, FRS > Sandaime's shroud. Fūton Casket + FRS > Sandaime Raikage. PS is not cutting him in half, the slash is large enough to destroy 1/3 of a mountain, his body gets utterly decimated.

Dodai disagrees.

With what? There are outright panels showing his shroud destroyed by FRS and he himself heavily injured by Fūton Casket.

 

[KidGamer65]

you are wrong ,normal piercing lightening jutsu is stronger than normal piercing wind jutsu

Lightning pierces better than Wind. That is all that was said here. Nothing more, nothing less. That doesn't mean Raikiri will pierce deeper than FRS.

raiki which has 2 kinds of manipulation is much stronger piercing jutsu than danzo’s futuun which damaged v3

Proof? Oh wait, you don't have any.

no,it is the opposite ,FRS piercing power is nowhere raiki
i can see raiki piercing the third as the hell stab did

Lol, what? 4 Fingered Nukite drills through multiple Rock Walls. Raikiri doesn't have a feat that even compares to that. One Fingered Nukite>>>>>>>>>>>Raikiri.

this panel wasnt clear ,if raiki was really tanked,kakashi wouldnt have tried to attack again by raiki the next panel

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The panel is clear, you just don't want to see it. It tanking his attack doesn't mean he won't attack with it again, because that's his best technique. You don't shift from a stronger technique to a weaker technique.

f raiki was really tanked,kishi would have made it clear or would have made kakashi comment on that

Kishi made it clear, and Kakashi commenting on it isn't a necessity.

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He tried to pierce, but it didn't go all the way through.