Ashura was jinchuuriki of Kurama - confirmed

[BraveStorm]

I must say that Ashura's bijuu-mode is ugly as shit.

 

[Kirikoe]

Nothing has been confirmed..

the only thing that was confirmed is that naruto is ashura's reincarnation and ashura after intense training made his chakra bloom

he might very well be the nine tails jin.. however it hasnt been said in the manga so it is not confirmed..

it also might very well be his own chakra.. however this to has not been confirmed..

we have seen that kishi doesnt always use logic so its very possible at one point he made minato the reincarnation however this is unlikely since he was gifted from the very start unlike naruto and ashura..

the point is right now most of what you are saying is speculation nothing is confirmed

Minato couldn't have been the reincarnation of Ashura because he's a Namikaze. From what we know, only Uchiha, Senju and those related by blood can become reincarnations. Hence the whole Uchiha and Senju rivalry.

While I would like to agree with this theory, the Beasts weren't separated until after the brother had caught up.

However, it might be referring to an earlier stage, where Ashura had SM and Indira had MS. Then after the younger brother was chosen Indira got angry causing him to awaken EMS, forcing Ashura to become a Jinchuuriki. It could also be a collection of all the bijuus, like Naruto.

EMS does not work like that... indra's brother never had any sort of sharingan and thus could not take his eyes to gain EMS

 

[Ovan]

Leave the story telling to Kishi.

 

[TrollKing]

Minato is not reincarnation of so6p, no where in manga hinted that except when you overthink. Hashirama might resemble ashura, but he's far from being reincarnation of ashura, just like minato or obito.

 

[LeSauce]

Nothing has been confirmed..

the only thing that was confirmed is that naruto is ashura's reincarnation and ashura after intense training made his chakra bloom

he might very well be the nine tails jin.. however it hasnt been said in the manga so it is not confirmed..

it also might very well be his own chakra.. however this to has not been confirmed..

we have seen that kishi doesnt always use logic so its very possible at one point he made minato the reincarnation however this is unlikely since he was gifted from the very start unlike naruto and ashura..

the point is right now most of what you are saying is speculation nothing is confirmed



EMS does not work like that... indra's brother never had any sort of sharingan and thus could not take his eyes to gain EMS

We know that his EMS works different though. He was able to awaken it without having a brother, like you said. We only know that know the current generation needs to take someone else's eyes.

And considering that Naruto said both would die when they had said powers, I wouldn't say it's impossible.

 

[saw2097]

He was not Kurama jin. There were 9 tailed beasts, so why not put them all inside him? No, it's his own chakra flow around him. Plus, he never put any Bijuu inside him, why would he? Back then, the beasts were babies. And if he had beasts inside him then the real him would be weak, but he is not, sage said that he caught up to his older brother and then defeated him and surpassed him cause he fought for peace, and for his loved ones

It was never said that the Beasts were weak when they were babies, they are pieces of the Juubi so they are just masses of chakra with intelligence.

I agree with the original poster, its obviously BM.

The sage probably gave the Younger Son Kurama when he made him his successor.

 

[Yume no Sekai]

Look at ashura inside the construct. He doesn't have any kind of bijuu cloak like minato or naruto. He should at least have the cloak even when he isn't in the avatar if he was in BM.

 

[TrollKing]

He was not Kurama jin. There were 9 tailed beasts, so why not put them all inside him? No, it's his own chakra flow around him. Plus, he never put any Bijuu inside him, why would he? Back then, the beasts were babies. And if he had beasts inside him then the real him would be weak, but he is not, sage said that he caught up to his older brother and then defeated him and surpassed him cause he fought for peace, and for his loved ones

@Bold: I'm sure you are starting to imagining things again

 

[bashkim]

No he was not a jin.

 

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Nothing is confirmed it wasn't stated that he was Jinchuriki nor was it stated that its the exact same shroud likes Naruto's. that cloak has a humanoid form four arms,rib cage and two heads like Madara's V2 Susanoo, Ashura was born with the body/physical power the construct could be made entirely of Yang Chakra. and as for the TBB is made of positive and negative chakra beings as powerful as the sons of the six paths could have had to ability to form them.

 

[A v i]

Everything I can tell you at this point is that it is possible and it is definitely not conformed.

 

[TrollKing]

Everything I can tell you at this point is that it is possible and it is definitely not conformed.

*Most likely*

Otherwise asspulls are non-existence

 

[Ultimateone]

there are a few problems with this being a bijuu mode. first off the bijuu at this point in time were in their child form. even if he had been the jin of kurama, presumably because of the resemblances, due to the time frame he wouldn't look anything like that. another problem is his position in the construct. naruto while in a similar form presides in the head, while ashura is in the stomach. the huge differences though are the head and number of arms. when naruto makes extra arms they look totally different than that, those look like they are originally suppose to be their. the head resembles none of the tailed beast, it has multiple heads with no real discernible face except eyes and ears that look more like a helmet. also, what people preceive as tails looks more like a cloak.

now i am happy to be wrong and he was a jin, but i'm not seeing that happening considering how kurama and other bijuu felt about humans. also it was said that the two brother, after ashura's chakra bloomed, were equals.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Yesterday I've made a theory about it, if you look at this image you can clearly see that it's not his own chakra, it's indeed a bijuu's - it has tails and TBBs, which are obvious trait of bijuu:

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People who opposed this idea used as an argument that it's his own chakra, and Naruto is the same since he is Ashura's incarnation. But, in fact, its not like that.
Those people forget that Minato has absolutely same chakra mode, and he is Kurama's jin too:

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Which leads us to the conclusion: the form of Ashura's bijuu mode is probably the FULL Kurama's bijuu mode, both Yin and Yang chakra together.

Do you really think that badass looking demonic chakra cloak belongs to the tiny Kurama? The Sage said that Ashura's chakra bloomed after which he achieved the same level of power as his brother. I personally think that it's Ashura's own chakra that forms a cloak around him (probably after he enters Sage Mode). Maybe, before dying Ashura somehow sealed his chakra within Kyuubi. So now any Kyuubi's jinchuuriki gets the same design as Ashura's chakra cloak. That's why Minato also has the same style of chakra mode. But those who do not have Kurama SEALED inside of them can't achieve the same cloak like Golden and Silver brothers. Ever wondered why Kurama had such a different appearance from other tailed beasts? That might be the influence of Ashura's chakra...

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Minato couldn't have been the reincarnation of Ashura because he's a Namikaze. From what we know, only Uchiha, Senju and those related by blood can become reincarnations. Hence the whole Uchiha and Senju rivalry.

While I would like to agree with this theory, the Beasts weren't separated until after the brother had caught up.

However, it might be referring to an earlier stage, where Ashura had SM and Indira had MS. Then after the younger brother was chosen Indira got angry causing him to awaken EMS, forcing Ashura to become a Jinchuuriki. It could also be a collection of all the bijuus, like Naruto.

Actually, Naruto is also a Namikaze. Descendants are from fathers, not mothers. He is called Uzumaki. Why? I don't know...

 

[Amaterasuice]

The actual reason Ashura had that cloak is because he inherited the body of the Sage (the jubi), just like his brother who inherited the eyes.

Elder son's eyes was the second most powerful possible eye technique, behind the sage's rinnegan himself. So obviously, the sage's bm would be equally as vastly powerful compared to Ashura. So, it wasn't that Ashura was a jinchuriki, he just inherited a lot of Bm chakra from his dad.

Since the 9tails was the second strongest Biju and the Ems was the second strongest official Dojutsu (not counting Indra's eyes, as it doesn't have an official name), the two abilities would obviously be vastly weaker compared to their ancestors.

It's kind of like Ashura's form is Biju mode 9.5, the mode right in between Jubi and Kurama. That really isn't an offical biju.
While Indra's eyes is like, the True ems. The eye technique right in between Ems and Rinnegan.

 

[saw2097]

The actual reason Ashura had that cloak is because he inherited the body of the Sage (the jubi), just like his brother who inherited the eyes.

Elder son's eyes was the second most powerful possible eye technique, behind the sage's rinnegan himself. So obviously, the sage's bm would be equally as vastly powerful compared to Ashura. So, it wasn't that Ashura was a jinchuriki, he just inherited a lot of Bm chakra from his dad.

Since the 9tails was the second strongest Biju and the Ems was the second strongest official Dojutsu (not counting Indra's eyes, as it doesn't have an official name), the two abilities would obviously be vastly weaker compared to their ancestors.

It's kind of like Ashura's form is Biju mode 9.5, the mode right in between Jubi and Kurama. That really isn't an offical biju.
While Indra's eyes is like, the True ems. The eye technique right in between Ems and Rinnegan.

It was clearly said by the Sage that Ashura didn't inherit anything from him at all. He was born without talent or any special ability. So its impossible for him to have inherited this power from his father.

 

[Mad Daz]

I must be missing those tails that u said are on ashuras chakra mode? I cant see them... Just a cape

 

[LeSauce]

Actually, Naruto is also a Namikaze. Descendants are from fathers, not mothers. He is called Uzumaki. Why? I don't know...

He still carries Uzumaki blood. You simply get your surname from the father.

 

[KingHashirama]

Some one explain to me how Minato having BM.. = him having Ashura's chakra?

Looks that way.
He also seems to have mokuton.
I guess hashirama was possessed by Ashura too, it kinda leads to nardo having wood element as well.

@Bold, i wanna know where thats at.