Ashura was jinchuuriki of Kurama - confirmed

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Yesterday I've made a theory about it, if you look at this image you can clearly see that it's not his own chakra, it's indeed a bijuu's - it has tails and TBBs, which are obvious trait of bijuu:

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People who opposed this idea used as an argument that it's his own chakra, and Naruto is the same since he is Ashura's incarnation. But, in fact, its not like that.
Those people forget that Minato has absolutely same chakra mode, and he is Kurama's jin too:

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Which leads us to the conclusion: the form of Ashura's bijuu mode is probably the FULL Kurama's bijuu mode, both Yin and Yang chakra together.
 

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Ashura is the embodiment of Yang chakra. That's his own yang chakra around him.
Those Black balls are Omnyudon.
Explain how Minato has the same chakra mode then

I have to disagree-it's definitetly NOT confirmed.
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It's indeed confirmed, I've provided manga scans, your opinion doesn't matter until it comes along with some arguments

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Explain how Minato has the same chakra mode then



It's indeed confirmed, I've provided manga scans, your opinion doesn't matter until it comes along with some arguments

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Sadly you haven't proven it beyond reasonable doubt. It could easily Ashura physical energies taking the form of a gigantic humanoid construct(basically a senju version of susanoo)
 

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So then why would full Kurama have six arms and two heads? Full Gyuki doesn't have multiple arms and is a cloak at full.

At full power, a Jinchuuriki can use a complete host transformation. There shouldn't be a cloak.
 

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So then why would full Kurama have six arms and two heads? Full Gyuki doesn't have multiple arms and is a cloak at full.

At full power, a Jinchuuriki can use a complete host transformation. There shouldn't be a cloak.
Kurama can have whatever amount of arms he needs:

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Explain why Minato has the same chakra mode, or your idea utterly fails
Um, maybe because he has Ashura's chakra'reincarnated in him? I don't know, but the point is theres no evidence that Ashura was a jinchuriki, for the simple reason that he would have treated Kurama nicely given his personality', and kurama had nothing but bad memories of humans prior to naruto. On top of that, the sage said that "HIS chakra bloomed" which is obviously talking about the strong body he inherited from his father.
 

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Kurama can have whatever amount of arms he needs:

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Those are tails..?

Plus, that's why it's a cloak. KCM Naruto can make arms out of chakra. Full Kurama should be a host transformation, like all the other Jinchuuriki do. It shouldn't be a chakra cloak.
 

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Um, maybe because he has Ashura's chakra'reincarnated in him? I don't know, but the point is theres no evidence that Ashura was a jinchuriki, for the simple reason that he would have treated Kurama nicely given his personality', and kurama had nothing but bad memories of humans prior to naruto.
It can't be like that, because this way it wouldn't be incarnated into Naruto since he was born before Minato died.
And Kurama told that Naruto reminds him of someone. It could be Ashura.
There is clear evidence, if you don't see it, oh well... I guess it can't be helped. Moon exlipes do exist regardless of you seing them or not, you know

Those are tails..?

Plus, that's why it's a cloak. KCM Naruto can make arms out of chakra. Full Kurama should be a host transformation, like all the other Jinchuuriki do. It shouldn't be a chakra cloak.
Cant you see the upper pannel? Tails do not have fingers.
With this scan I only proved that Kurama's bijuu mode is capable of having any amount of arms.
And "should be" is not an argument, it's your assumption.
 
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I think you are going about it the wrong way

You are thinking Ashura's chakra construct looks similar to Naruto's/Minato's therefore he must be a jinchuriki

no, its the other way around

Naruto's/Minato's transformation seems to be mimicking Ashura's transformation

Why is it happening? probably because Ashura's chakra is being passed down from one generation to other

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and since naruto is the one who is currently in possession of it he has some similar traits to Ashura

Its already said that Ashura's chakra awakened due to hard work and training

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and you would think sage would mention something as important as being kyuubi jinchuriki
 
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I think you are going about it the wrong way

You are thinking Ashura's chakra construct looks similar to Naruto's/Minato's therefore he must be a jinchuriki

no, its the other way around

Naruto's/Minato's transformation seems to be mimicking Ashura's transformation

Why is it happening? probably because Ashura's chakra is being passed down from one generation to other

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and since naruto is the one who is currently in possession of it he has some similar traits to Ashura

Its already said that Ashura's chakra awakened due to hard work and training

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and you would think sage would mention something as important as being kyuubi jinchuriki
So you're assuming Minato was an incarnation of Ashura too?
It's impossible since he died after Naruto was born, it can be only one of them if we speak of incarnations, and manga states it's Naruto.
And I don't think that being jinchuuriki really is that important to Hagoromo.
What's more important is the idea of cooperation that he liked, and which was the reason he made Ashura his successor. Being a perfect jinchuuriki is the best example of cooperation.
 
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