Ashura was jinchuuriki of Kurama - confirmed

[Corgi]

It can't be like that, because this way it wouldn't be incarnated into Naruto since he was born before Minato died.
And Kurama told that Naruto reminds him of someone. It could be Ashura.
There is clear evidence, if you don't see it, oh well... I guess it can't be helped. Moon exlipes do exist regardless of you seing them or not, you know



Cant you see the upper pannel? Tails do not have fingers.
With this scan I only proved that Kurama's bijuu mode is capable of having any amount of arms.
And "should be" is not an argument, it's your assumption.

Those arms are from tails though because it's chakra.

This on the other hand (lol) are actually arms. That chakra cloak is Ashura's own chakra.

The Sage himself said Ashura's chakra was reincarnated into Naruto.

This means that Naruto's cloak looks like that because of Ashura's chakra, not Ashura's chakra looking like that because of Kurama cloak.

Edit: End of Days already covered it.

 

[jediknite2]

He's was the host for all the bijuus

 

[Mari Makinami]

Those arms are from tails though because it's chakra.

This on the other hand (lol) are actually arms. That chakra cloak is Ashura's own chakra.

The Sage himself said Ashura's chakra was reincarnated into Naruto.

This means that Naruto's cloak looks like that because of Ashura's chakra, not Ashura's chakra looking like that because of Kurama cloak.

Edit: End of Days already covered it.

Haven't you read my opening post?
Care to answer why Minato has the same chakra mode then? I already answered to End of Days, it's impossible.

 

[Thundercles]

Yesterday I've made a theory about it, if you look at this image you can clearly see that it's not his own chakra, it's indeed a bijuu's - it has tails and TBBs, which are obvious trait of bijuu:

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People who opposed this idea used as an argument that it's his own chakra, and Naruto is the same since he is Ashura's incarnation. But, in fact, its not like that.
Those people forget that Minato has absolutely same chakra mode, and he is Kurama's jin too:

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Which leads us to the conclusion: the form of Ashura's bijuu mode is probably the FULL Kurama's bijuu mode, both Yin and Yang chakra together.

Except that's looks nothing like Kurama.

 

[Mari Makinami]

Except that's looks nothing like Kurama.

If you look careful enough at it's head, it looks pretty similar to Kurama. Considering the fact that this mode is capable of shifting chakra's form, it fits perfectly to my theory.

 

[Corgi]

Haven't you read my opening post?
Care to answer why Minato has the same chakra mode then? I already answered to End of Days, it's impossible.

Because Minato was also Ashura's reincarnation, based on his ideals, or that if it's true Minato knows SM like everyone is saying, which I don't believe, only because of him being inside Naruto, then that could explain it.

The obvious answer though is Minato also was te reincarnation.

And on Minato dying, it's possible that Ashura could've been reincarnated into Minato and Naruto both and the chakra just left to Naruto as Naruto was born.

 

[Mari Makinami]

Because Minato was also Ashura's reincarnation, based on his ideals, or that if it's true Minato knows SM like everyone is saying, which I don't believe, only because of him being inside Naruto, then that could explain it.

The obvious answer though is Minato also was te reincarnation.

And on Minato dying, it's possible that Ashura could've been reincarnated into Minato and Naruto both and the chakra just left to Naruto as Naruto was born.

No, it's not possible. The manga clearly states that Naruto is incarnation of Ashura. Reincarnation means being reborn, it's a cycle of death and birth. If Minato died before Naruto was born, that would be possible.

Edit. Also Minato never shown an ability to use this mode before becoming a jin.

 

[Corgi]

No, it's not possible. The manga clearly states that Naruto is incarnation of Ashura. Reincarnation means being reborn, it's a cycle of death and birth. If Minato died before Naruto was born, that would be possible.

Bringing the dead back is impossible. Transferring souls is impossible. Falling from the sky is impossible.

Yes the manga says Ashura's chakra was passed down to Naruto, but it doesn't mention anyone else. Are you trying to tell me no one else I existence got his chakra?

Minato was also gifted Ashura's chakra.

Even in the scan you provided when Ashura's chakra is begin Naruto, it in itself resembles the cloak because that's is chakra not Kurama's.

Minato/Naruto both have Ashura's chakra, Ashura wasn't Kurama Jin.

Deal with it.

 

[Xāvî1]

Nice theory

 

[Mari Makinami]

Bringing the dead back is impossible. Transferring souls is impossible. Falling from the sky is impossible.

Yes the manga says Ashura's chakra was passed down to Naruto, but it doesn't mention anyone else. Are you trying to tell me no one else I existence got his chakra?

Minato was also gifted Ashura's chakra.

Even in the scan you provided when Ashura's chakra is begin Naruto, it in itself resembles the cloak because that's is chakra not Kurama's.

Minato/Naruto both have Ashura's chakra, Ashura wasn't Kurama Jin.

Deal with it.

To be reborn, you need to die first. It's simple logic, which you obviously lack.

You have absolutely no evidence that Minato had his chakra, you gave no arguments at all, it's purely your assumptions.

Come back when you have something solid, I'm not interested in fanfiction.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Those are tails..?

Plus, that's why it's a cloak. KCM Naruto can make arms out of chakra. Full Kurama should be a host transformation, like all the other Jinchuuriki do. It shouldn't be a chakra cloak.

Pretty sure if you read the manga you would clearly see that Kurama isnt like the other biju, Naruto isnt like the other jinchuriki, and Naruto's seal isnt like any other Jinchuriki's seal... So it would not be too farfetched to make the assumption that the Biju mode would be different... or Naruto's Biju mode could have been just a smaller version of Kyubi...

TBH I think this cloak Biju mode seems much better than actual Kyubi, since it is malleable, can be used to protect others within itself, and can spout as many arms as it deems necessary to fit its situation...

EDIT: Not to mention that it looks WAY cooler than actual Kurama

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Because Minato was also Ashura's reincarnation, based on his ideals, or that if it's true Minato knows SM like everyone is saying, which I don't believe, only because of him being inside Naruto, then that could explain it.

The obvious answer though is Minato also was te reincarnation.

And on Minato dying, it's possible that Ashura could've been reincarnated into Minato and Naruto both and the chakra just left to Naruto as Naruto was born.

You have no solid evidence that Minato was Ashura's reincarnation as well... You are acting like your prediction is any more plausible than Toldyouso's... It is just a fanmade prediction so how about YOU deal with it... and stop acting like everyone is wrong just because they dont agree with your point of view...

 

[Second Path of Pain]

He was not Kurama jin. There were 9 tailed beasts, so why not put them all inside him? No, it's his own chakra flow around him. Plus, he never put any Bijuu inside him, why would he? Back then, the beasts were babies. And if he had beasts inside him then the real him would be weak, but he is not, sage said that he caught up to his older brother and then defeated him and surpassed him cause he fought for peace, and for his loved ones

 

[Corgi]

You have no solid evidence that Minato was Ashura's reincarnation as well... You are acting like your prediction is any more plausible than Toldyouso's... It is just a fanmade prediction so how about YOU deal with it... and stop acting like everyone is wrong just because they dont agree with your point of view...

I'm the one calling everyone wrong? OP is saying that his theory is solid fact just because he used a scan that proves nothing.

Deal with it.

 

[sharingan17]

Is just a prediction, is not really comfirmed until kishi says otherwise.

 

[Mari Makinami]

He was not Kurama jin. There were 9 tailed beasts, so why not put them all inside him? No, it's his own chakra flow around him. Plus, he never put any Bijuu inside him, why would he? Back then, the beasts were babies. And if he had beasts inside him then the real him would be weak, but he is not, sage said that he caught up to his older brother and then defeated him and surpassed him cause he fought for peace, and for his loved ones

You obviously haven't read the thread, do it and then come back. Your assumptions do not explain why Minato has the same cloak when he clearly wasn't Ashura's incarnation. You also didn't explain why Ashura's chakra mode looks like a tailed beast, has tails and TBBs.

I'm the one calling everyone wrong? OP is saying that his theory is solid fact just because he used a scan that proves nothing.

Deal with it.

I can easily deal with your fantasies and denial, it's no problem mate If you don't see an obvious proof, well, it's your problem. Many people here noticed it.

Is just a prediction, is not really comfirmed until kishi says otherwise.

Didn't you read the latest manga chapter? He already said everything. =D

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Its design it clearly influenced by Kurama cloak, but there's a ton of things about it similar to susanoo making me think that it's the manifestation of his chakra since Hagoromo did say he had the same power as his brother. Lo and Behold, we saw PS, and then that other thing.

 

[IcedFox]

Wouldn't a Full Bijuu mode be to have a complete tailed beast appear? E.G. Hattsan? Or Shukaku for that matter?

 

[Mari Makinami]

Wouldn't a Full Bijuu mode be to have a complete tailed beast appear? E.G. Hattsan? Or Shukaku for that matter?

We don't know how it would look like in Kurama's case. The half of Kurama is clearly capable of using the same chakra mode Bee used:

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And clearly full bijuu mode looks different for both Kurama and Gyuuki:

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Same goes for Matatabi, for example:

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But Naruto is clearly capable of creating the body of Kurama, not just chakra, just like veryone else:

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[LeSauce]

Minato couldn't have been the reincarnation of Ashura because he's a Namikaze. From what we know, only Uchiha, Senju and those related by blood can become reincarnations. Hence the whole Uchiha and Senju rivalry.

While I would like to agree with this theory, the Beasts weren't separated until after the brother had caught up.

However, it might be referring to an earlier stage, where Ashura had SM and Indira had MS. Then after the younger brother was chosen Indira got angry causing him to awaken EMS, forcing Ashura to become a Jinchuuriki. It could also be a collection of all the bijuus, like Naruto.