Ashura most likely wasn't a jinchuriki.

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I am not sure how many but some people on the base seem to think that Ashura was a jinchuriki. This thread is meant to highlight the reasons why he most likely wasn't.

The main reason why people think he was jinchuriki was because of his battle avatar

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I believe I speak for everyone when I say that the first thing we thought of when we saw the avatar was naruto's BM kurama avatar. The seals and markings on both avatars are almost identical

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But let us take a closer look at ashura's avatar and naruto's kurama mode.

Perhaps the biggest difference is in their appearance. Apart from them most likely being the same colour and having similar markings, They look nothing alike.

First off naruto's kurama mode is far larger than ashura's avatar. This alone will start to bring in some doubt about ashura being a jinchuriki since naruto's kurama avatar is exactly the same size as yang kurama who is exactly the same size as the other bijuu. To put it simply all the bijuu are larger than Ashura's avatar.

Secondly Ashura's avatar looks nothing like Kurama or any bijuu for that matter. Now some may say that Ashura might have had bits and pieces of all the bijuu's chakra like naruto does leading to the avatars appearance. But wouldn't the avatar have a closer resemblance to the juubi? Yet it doesn't it has 2 or 3 faces (can't really tell) and six arms. It definitely does not fit any bijuu description there.

Some of the scans some people post to support their view on Ashura being a jinchuriki are the following scans

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The above scans seem to suggest that Ashura needed help to compete with his superior older brother. This might also further suggest that as Indra continued to acquire more strength, Ashura would need a stronger source of power in order to compete with Indra, The bijuu.

However another scan exists that dismisses this notion.

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Yes, Ashura equalled his brother prior to the creation of the 9 bijuu. Atleast that is what the scan suggests.

Conclusion

While I am not completely dismissing the fact that Ashura might have been a jinchuriki I am just trying to point out the fact that there is more evidence suggesting that he wasn't a jinchuriki then there is suggesting that he was. Naruto might be Ashura's reincarnation, but that does not mean they have to be the same. Hahsirama who was a reincarnation of Ashura was never a jinchuriki. So it is wrong to assume that because Naruto is a jinchuriki then Ashura must be one as well. I believe Ashura's avatar was a manifestation of his own power not that of some seperate entity.

Perhaps a thread like this was made before, but I am just trying to throw in my own thoughts.

What do you guys and girls think?
 

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If you look at closely, you notice that:
1. It has a necklace.
2. The tails actually resemble more of a cape. The cape-like cloak actually starts up at the upper body of the avatar instead.

Also, that avatar was supposed to be the result of the training and suffering Hago was talking about. If his own chakra does not reside as powerful as Indra's, then there's no way the chakra/soul would sustain itself to reincarnate. Because when Jinchuurikis die, the TB's chakra will reform into the Tailed Beasts again.

Besides, Ashura's half of Hagoromo's/Juubi's power through the body. It's just that he awakened it later then Indra.
 
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If you look at closely, you notice that:
1. It has a necklace.
2. The tails actually resemble more of a cape. The cape-like cloak actually starts up at the upper body of the avatar instead.

Also, that avatar was supposed to be the result of the training and suffering Hago was talking about. If his own chakra does not reside as powerful as Indra's, then there's no way the chakra/soul would sustain itself to reincarnate. Because when Jinchuurikis die, the TB's chakra will reform into the Tailed Beasts again.

Besides, Ashura's half of Hagoromo's/Juubi's power through the body. It's just that he awakened it later then Indra.
Good points
 

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It would suck if his chakra turned out to be yellow.

I pictured white aura with the black markings, since he has the body of the sage.

But ya I agree, Asuhra is not a jinchuuriki because the sage created the bijuus after he picked his successor.

Asuhra awakened his power before the creation of the beast, the beast was just a secondary solution.
 

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There isn't much evidence on this except what is shown, but there's not proof either way, nor was it ever stated. The sage chose his successor, created the nine bijuu, then died.

I do think Ashura was a jinchuriki because of the avatar - that is a distinctive look that's too close to BM Naruto.

I think he had access to all their power, maybe because they were too "young" or naive to withhold it, but he was not their friend. He might have even been the initial cause of their distrust of humans, since they were forced to fight.
 
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Omg, THE LONG WAR is after so6god died. They dead so6god watched his kids fight to death. That ashira bm happened after so6god splitted the biju and died
 

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Ashura had his chakra awakened through the use of ninshuu, which is the sharing of chakra that was explained by Hago and shown by Naruto
(Idk how to put in the scans)

Also nobody was a jinjurikki before Hagos death.
I think that this beast mode is the same type as the susanoo except its natural energy rather than whatever the eyes use.
 

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Ashura had his chakra awakened through the use of ninshuu, which is the sharing of chakra that was explained by Hago and shown by Naruto
(Idk how to put in the scans)

Also nobody was a jinjurikki before Hagos death.
I think that this beast mode is the same type as the susanoo except its natural energy rather than whatever the eyes use.
So6p chose ashura as successor of dodo before he died. Then the lonnnnnnnnnnnnng war started!!!AKA BM!
 

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Ashura power was co-op with others. Even in last fight we could see army in his side.
So im thinking that he may not be jin but he took chakra from Kurama,
 

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I agree, if anything it looks like a pseudo susanoo, with its multiple arms and two heads. Kinda puts me in the mind of maddy's multi limbed susanoo
 

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I think it meant that Ashura caught up to Indra when Indra had yet to reach their full power. Similar to how SM Naruto was almost on par with MS Sasuke, but then Sasuke got better, forcing Naruto to cooperate with Kurama.

But honestly I just think that he had the Bijuu's to help him because Naruto needs them and he's his reincarnation.
 

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I think it meant that Ashura caught up to Indra when Indra had yet to reach their full power. Similar to how SM Naruto was almost on par with MS Sasuke, but then Sasuke got better, forcing Naruto to cooperate with Kurama.

But honestly I just think that he had the Bijuu's to help him because Naruto needs them and he's his reincarnation.
I'm pretty positive the bijuu's would've mentioned ashura to naruto by now....
 

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I think it meant that Ashura caught up to Indra when Indra had yet to reach their full power. Similar to how SM Naruto was almost on par with MS Sasuke, but then Sasuke got better, forcing Naruto to cooperate with Kurama.

But honestly I just think that he had the Bijuu's to help him because Naruto needs them and he's his reincarnation.
Madara needed Kyubis help and he's Indra's reincarnation.
 
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