[Discussion] A's raw speed & Minato's raw speed

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the fan boy crap is annoying and over its not like im 1 of them but the shit is stated all over the manga obviously the dude is a beast its u thats says fanboy blabla being ignorant
 

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actually yeah
, i know he landed on the kuni, but i do think it's body flicker
What makes you think it body flicker? The text saying "flicker" shows that he used his FTG tech to teleport to the marked kunai. He then used it again when he teleported to the marked kunai he left behind to land on his back.
 

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What makes you think it body flicker? The text saying "flicker" shows that he used his FTG tech to teleport to the marked kunai. He then used it again when he teleported to the marked kunai he left behind to land on his back.
Two things signify that its not the FTG technique:
1) there are a bunch of other kunais in a row on that tree if you look
2) before he moved, he had a kunai in his hand, when he lands on the tree, he doesn't have a kunai in his hand. You assume its the one on the tree. But then where did the kunai falling in the air by the Raikage's head come from? Minato dropped it as he flickered.
 

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MS is a part of Itachi's bloodline, while FTG isn't part of Minato it's just a Ninja weapon, lol.
I know it is but their not born with MS installed in their eyes and I don't think I need to tell you how it's obtain? That being said it's a weapon they can unlock but has it's flaws (blindness).

Main point is it's like you saying Itachi should battle Jman without MS but use Sharingan or better point on this topic he should lose the legendary sword and shield with his ultimate defense Susanoo, which are tools if he battles anyone.

Also we saw a bit of Minato speed I'm pretty sure without FTG in Kakashi flashback where Kakashi was going head on with the random ninja and Minato came between them stop both of them and marked the guy while getting Kakashi away and than used FTG to finish him off as he was marked.

I mean come on Raikage states that he though no one could surpass Minato and he said Minato was the fastest until he died and now Raikage gets that title. (Until we see Naruto, Sasuke, Tobi full out speed). Be it a tech/jutsu/weapon doesn't matter.
 
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Is Minato's ability the only reason why he's the fastest? Yes. A' is the fastest "moving" Shinobi ever, but Minato is the fastest "without" moving: Teleport.
did u not see him grab naruto from madara that was his speed coz he didnt have madara or naruto market at that time
 

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Two things signify that its not the FTG technique:
1) there are a bunch of other kunais in a row on that tree if you look
2) before he moved, he had a kunai in his hand, when he lands on the tree, he doesn't have a kunai in his hand. You assume its the one on the tree. But then where did the kunai falling in the air by the Raikage's head come from? Minato dropped it as he flickered.
1) The other kunai are used to help him maneuver around the battlefield at an untouchable speed which helps him when he is in a pinch, as when A attacked him unexpectedly.
2) The kunai he had in his had was left behind when he used FTG so he could appear a moment later on top of A. The kunai on the tree is just one of the many he tossed out at the beginning of the fight. It would be impossible for him to toss a kunai when A is attacking at top speed and inches away from his face.
 
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Minato has the Speed near to that of a Flash, thats why his called the Yellow Flash!

When he Moves in his Normal Speed, all that is Seen is a Yellow Flash, Due to his Yellow hair Color!
 
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Hmmmm... when two ninja's clash.. the one with higher speed and skill wins. Raw speeds in ninja world don't matter if the other guy can teleport faster then your speed. Raikage may be faster in moving from point A to B. But Minato is fastest in moving from point A to B due to FTG. And that is the bottom line, no matter who is faster speedwise.

FTG teleports Minato from point A to B in an instant. The distance doesn't matter in Minato's case whereas for Raikage if the distance is longer he will take more time to get there. As was with his fight with Madara and now with Raikage(A), Minato has proved he is the FATEST man that ever lived in the Shinobi world. He beat the Sharingan, countered Kyuubi's tailed beast bombs and even owned Raikage when it came to speed!!!!
 
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A admits minato was the faster..who cares how either do It..whatever it takes and works..I like em both but minato is faster ninja..sure naruto will surpass him lol but I love raikage and minato both different and very strong good to see some background on them..narutobase rules
 

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What takes more chakra? Funijutsu or Ninjutsu? Enough said.

dude minato speed is faster than raikage...otherwise he wouldnt be able to keep up or even see raikage punch almost hitting him...other shinobi would goten smack n didnt even see it...that is speed...n if u are comparing speed wo ninja tool then raikage armor is a tool...he is purely base his speed on the lightning affinity which enhance his abilities so its not his normal speed it grants him godlike speed....if u want normal speed than hands down minato will clearly own raikage....enlough said
 

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it could also just be that Minato underestimated A's pure speed and was like "oh shit no time to dodge, gotta FTG". Either way you look at it, Minato was probably going to pwn Raikage and Killer Bee if the fight dragged on. He had space/time kunai all over the place, which is a death-trap for anyone that comes into the area.
 
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He doesn't use the body flicker tech because he appears at one of his marked kunai. This should therefore concludes that he used the FTG tech.
all his kunai's are marked that means nothing.
it has merits for an actual discussion, not to be quickly dismissed.

i believe that his ftg tech is just the flicker tech but further developed and mastered. wild i know just throwing it out there haha.
 

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it could also just be that Minato underestimated A's pure speed and was like "oh shit no time to dodge, gotta FTG". Either way you look at it, Minato was probably going to pwn Raikage and Killer Bee if the fight dragged on. He had space/time kunai all over the place, which is a death-trap for anyone that comes into the area.
Yeah that's what I'm trying to say, well not in this thread as this is my first post in this thread but in a bunch of others. Raikage rushed Minato and I don't think Minato was expecting that so yeah he only had time to use FTG to get away but look at his reaction times, he managed to turn and throw a kunai at Raikage before A could even turn, only Bee could react and his attack was dodged not by FTG but by Minato physically moving out of the way and Bee got his tail severed for it. Minato was much faster, look at how fast you have to be to respond to an attack from behind and not only dodge it but wreck the person that attacked. The hachibi tail was nearly severed. So if A was faster then how come Minato was able to get behind him from the tree and was able to dodge Bee's attack? Minato was just surprised by the first attack.
 
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What I find interesting is that Minato didn't need the FTG technique to escape the Raikage in this past chapter. If you look closely:
He uses the Body Flicker technique. And to be sure, you can see the kunai he was holding falling the earth in the box below. What's really impressive is that he was able to see the Raikage's attack so quickly and then use the Body Flicker technique just as fast to escape to the point where the Raikage was shocked, hence his "!!?".

So if the Minato's Body Flicker technique is faster than the Raikage's enhanced lightning speed, his FTG should be well faster than the latter.
No Minato used FTG to get on the tree then FTG again to the kunai he left behind to kick A
 

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He used FTG to get close to Madara, lol.
No tech is faster than Madara's Space Time jutsu though.

Sasuke CAN get lighting armor.
Sasuke can't get lightning armor or he would have by now. Sasuke lacks in chakra control to that level most likely and he also doesn't have enough to supply it. Sasuke has sharingan which means he seen how the lightning armor worked, why hasn't he copied it yet if you say he can?

Anyways I believe there is more to Minato than we know right know. From A's response as in "I'm the fastest ninja alive now that Minato is gone" We don't know if he meant only due to FTG or not, Minato could be fast without it as well, you can't just jump to conclusions if you don't know anything just like the rest of us.
 

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You say raw speed so why are you letting the raikage use his lightning armour but not letting 4th hokage use his FTG. Thats just setting the stage for A to win bro not cool. Both A and Minato without their best jutsu would not be incredibly fast, probably around Kakashis speed, but Minato with his lighter body would be faster, never shows how fast either of them are without their techniques but Minatos reaction time must be incredible since he appears instantly and reacts perfectly according to the situation.
 

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it does depend we dont know enought about both of those abilities or techs or watever they are to actually decide which r best or which use chakra or watever
 
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What defines "normal speed"? Minato in a footrace is faster because of his smaller physique, but how can you not count A's Lighting Armor if it's basically him increasing his chakra manipulating his affinity?
No if you actually think about it... A uses his Raiton (Lightning) armor to increase his speed and Minato uses those seals to teleport him. When it comes to ninja tools Minato is stronger and faster then A and even A admitted it. No if it just came to normal speed then you couldn't count A's Lightning shield if your not going to count minato being able to teleport. Besides A was using his full power and Minato wasn't and he easily dodged both A and B's attacks. Madara couldn't even beat or touch Minato. Minato is a very great and skilled ninja and a lot of people who think he's over rated just hate because he's so talented. Give him credit the same way you give other ninja's you like...
 
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