Aren't Kisame and Itachi equals powerwise?

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Kisame have just more brute Strength,More chakra and Huge jutsus than Itachi while
Itachi has More speed,His ultimate Tsukuyomi and skill so they are pretty even
 

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But i say Itachi is a lil bit higer than Kisame in overall give tht the fact Kisame respects Itachi and does whtever he say..
 

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But i say Itachi is a lil bit higer than Kisame in overall give tht the fact Kisame respects Itachi and does whtever he say..

That's just because of personality-wise. He doesn't submit to him he just feels like he can relate to him is all. Doesn't stop him from attacking him lol.

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That's just because of personality-wise. He doesn't submit to him he just feels like he can relate to him is all. Doesn't stop him from attacking him lol.

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Lol! How can you compare Kisame to Itachi?
 

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Kisame is part1 Kakashi's level
 

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Kisame is part1 Kakashi's level

There are lots of characters associated by Kishi and the fanbase as being PTS Kakashi level and Kisame just isn't one of them. PTS Kabuto is not on par with Kisame.
 

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Theyare overall around similar levels but Itachi would win by a small margin.

Kisame has certain superiorities over him too. Against an opponent who has great stamina/chakra or lrage amounts off opponents Kisame could do better. Itachi is more of one-hit K.O ninja with taxing abilities.
 

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I doubt tsukuyomi would do much to a badass who made himself get EATEN by his own sharks.
AND i think samehada can disrupt or awaken kisame from genjutsu. Itachi already has shitty stamina,
if Kisame hits itachi once i doubt he would have enough chakra for amaterasu or susanoo.

OT: i find them equal.
 

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There are lots of characters associated by Kishi and the fanbase as being PTS Kakashi level and Kisame just isn't one of them. PTS Kabuto is not on par with Kisame.
Itachi disagrees, and who said Kabuto was?
 

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I feel like Kisame may had been made Itachi's partner to kill him if necessary. He was fiercely loyal to Obito, he was shown having missions where he had to kill his teammates, and he does have counters to Itachi's abilities.

Kisame has nothing On yatta

Kisame has notihng on totsuka Blitz

kisame has nothing on Tsuki.

GG/ kisame

Kisame can get around Yata, or even absorb it.

Kisame isn't a cripple.

Don't look at Itachi's eyes/Partner method with Samehada. They share chakra, they could constantly be interchanging chakra between them to stop genjutsus.

No I am not. I am addressing the false premise that 1 on 1 fights are the sole indicator of a shinobi's overall strength/power. In other words, x beating y doesn't make one stronger automatically. In some cases, the "weaker" shinobi wins due to bad matchup.(eg hebi sasuke vs deidara) and some shinobis are almost unbeatable in 1 on 1 fights, but would stink when going up against multiple enemies. I am still a hundred percent right about the madara/kakashi example I gave.

Agreed.

There are factors to consider about every match-up.

It might be that accounting to overall feats, they are balanced with each other.

Though if Itachi were to fight Kisame, Itachi win though. Kinda a bad match-up. Genjutsu and Tsukuyomi GG.

Genjutsu is a highly ambiguous ability and hard to argue for or against, Itachi actually has a fairly poor track record with genjutsu; to date it has only really beaten kid Deidara, everyone else has countered or resisted it. Tsukiyomi is a different story, it is a super genjutsu which is easier to argue for or against, but even then it all falls under the assumption that Kisame actually makes eye contact with Itachi and speculation to what effect it will have on Kisame.
 
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I feel like Kisame may had been made Itachi's partner to kill him if necessary. He was fiercely loyal to Obito, he was shown having missions where he had to kill his teammates, and he does have counters to Itachi's abilities.



Kisame can get around Yata, or even absorb it.

Kisame isn't a cripple.

Don't look at Itachi's eyes/Partner method with Samehada. They share chakra, they could constantly be interchanging chakra between them to stop genjutsus.

you dont even know if samehada would help kisame, it left him as soon as it found a better host. that shows what kind of relationship they have.

you cant absorb yata mirror because it is an actual weapon

kisame still has no counter to totsuki blade and amateratsu and no he cant absorb amateratsu either
 

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I mean yeah people sing Itachi's praises but when you look at their powers and feats combined they are literally equals. Kisame is such an underrated and OP ninja battlewise and has only had the worst matchups with Guy. The guy defeated KILLER BEE with relative ease. A ninja who uses chakra is in danger.

Not quite true.
 

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you dont even know if samehada would help kisame, it left him as soon as it found a better host. that shows what kind of relationship they have.

you cant absorb yata mirror because it is an actual weapon

kisame still has no counter to totsuki blade and amateratsu and no he cant absorb amateratsu either

Samehada was loyal to Kisame. As for abandoning Kisame, it was part of a ruse to sneak into Kumo and gather information, a White Zetsu took Kisame's place while Kisame hid inside of Samehada, then Bee unknowlingly brought Kisame into Kumo.

Yata Mirror is a spiritual item and is made of chakra.

Kisame's counter is to not get hit. Regardless of Totsuka's sealing ability, everyone that isn't immortal will attempt to evade a giant sword. Kisame should be able to absorb Amaterasu.
 

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Their overall stats are equal, but Itachi would win in a fight. On the contrary by the way, Kisame is actually overrated,​
 

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Samehada was loyal to Kisame. As for abandoning Kisame, it was part of a ruse to sneak into Kumo and gather information, a White Zetsu took Kisame's place while Kisame hid inside of Samehada, then Bee unknowlingly brought Kisame into Kumo.

Yata Mirror is a spiritual item and is made of chakra.

Kisame's counter is to not get hit. Regardless of Totsuka's sealing ability, everyone that isn't immortal will attempt to evade a giant sword. Kisame should be able to absorb Amaterasu.

samehada doesnt absorb powerful fire jutsus so no he cant absorb amateratsu.

it is still a weapon thats like saying he can absorb totsuki blade.

samehada didnt abandon kisame for a plan he abandoned him because killer bee was stronger. this happened to go with the plan of entering there base but no, that was not staged the sword legit switched sides.
 

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samehada doesnt absorb powerful fire jutsus so no he cant absorb amateratsu.

it is still a weapon thats like saying he can absorb totsuki blade.

samehada didnt abandon kisame for a plan he abandoned him because killer bee was stronger. this happened to go with the plan of entering there base but no, that was not staged the sword legit switched sides.

Samehada does absorb fire, but doesn't like it. Kisame also absorbs jutsus himself and never showed any aversion to fire.

It's still made of chakra, so is Totsuka.

Why didn't Samehada betray Kisame to Bee?
 
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