Are We Humans Lowkey Evil?

[FreakensteinAG]

There's no morality in nature. We made that ourselves. The very fact that society developed after our beginnings showed that we had to develop systems of laws to preserve ourselves and keep us from dying out.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

We're evidently evil. We hate everything, we hate how nature looks so we destroy it and rebuild it to how we see fit. I mean we literally have slaughterhouses where we just elnslave and murder millions of animals. The whole beginning of man was us just murdering other species because they were in the way. The negative is always more powerful than the positive for some reason in reality, that's why in most fantasy the good guy usually prevails. For a lot of people it's a lot easier to kill an insect than catch it and throw it outside.

I mean who would set up society the way it is other than someone evil, most of the worlds currency is just bullshit that the banks can make at anytime. I saw this seminar video where this scientist lady was talking about how naturally are brains dwell on the negative rather than positive things that happen in life. Which is true, for the most part most people have to practice positivey. History has just been awful if you really look back, I'm sure there were good spot but for the most part we're shitty. Most evil people make it far in life, it's no joke. The amount of successful a-holes I've met compared to sincere humble ones is crazy.

Then when we kill everything else we focus on ruining ourselves. Let's create class systems, lets continue to serperate each other as finely as we can. Hitler is probably one of the most famous people in the world, look what he accomplished with just passionate hate. For the most part with good intention or betterment it's way harder to accomplish as much. What is the point of religion? I mean you have something that could be potentially good and we shit all over it for centuries and use it negatively. The Internet is a beautiful example, the good and bad thing about it is you're anonymous. For the most part when people aren't being told how to act by society, they're *******s.

Not to say there isn't good but we're definitely evil.

 

[NextGenNinja]

No, not really. Humans aren't inherently evil, the ones that are. Are called "Psychopaths".

 

[DominiqueX]

We're evidently evil. We hate everything, we hate how nature looks so we destroy it and rebuild it to how we see fit. I mean we literally have slaughterhouses where we just elnslave and murder millions of animals. The whole beginning of man was us just murdering other species because they were in the way. The negative is always more powerful than the positive for some reason in reality, that's why in most fantasy the good guy usually prevails. For a lot of people it's a lot easier to kill an insect than catch it and throw it outside.

I mean who would set up society the way it is other than someone evil, most of the worlds currency is just bullshit that the banks can make at anytime. I saw this seminar video where this scientist lady was talking about how naturally are brains dwell on the negative rather than positive things that happen in life. Which is true, for the most part most people have to practice positivey. History has just been awful if you really look back, I'm sure there were good spot but for the most part we're shitty. Most evil people make it far in life, it's no joke. The amount of successful a-holes I've met compared to sincere humble ones is crazy.

Then when we kill everything else we focus on ruining ourselves. Let's create class systems, lets continue to serperate each other as finely as we can. Hitler is probably one of the most famous people in the world, look what he accomplished with just passionate hate. For the most part with good intention or betterment it's way harder to accomplish as much. What is the point of religion? I mean you have something that could be potentially good and we shit all over it for centuries and use it negatively. The Internet is a beautiful example, the good and bad thing about it is you're anonymous. For the most part when people aren't being told how to act by society, they're *******s.

Not to say there isn't good but we're definitely evil.

Wow, very good post. Thank you. Can't +rep you yet unfortunately.

 

[Claymantan]

We're evidently evil. We hate everything, we hate how nature looks so we destroy it and rebuild it to how we see fit. I mean we literally have slaughterhouses where we just elnslave and murder millions of animals. The whole beginning of man was us just murdering other species because they were in the way. The negative is always more powerful than the positive for some reason in reality, that's why in most fantasy the good guy usually prevails. For a lot of people it's a lot easier to kill an insect than catch it and throw it outside.

I mean who would set up society the way it is other than someone evil, most of the worlds currency is just bullshit that the banks can make at anytime. I saw this seminar video where this scientist lady was talking about how naturally are brains dwell on the negative rather than positive things that happen in life. Which is true, for the most part most people have to practice positivey. History has just been awful if you really look back, I'm sure there were good spot but for the most part we're shitty. Most evil people make it far in life, it's no joke. The amount of successful a-holes I've met compared to sincere humble ones is crazy.

Then when we kill everything else we focus on ruining ourselves. Let's create class systems, lets continue to serperate each other as finely as we can. Hitler is probably one of the most famous people in the world, look what he accomplished with just passionate hate. For the most part with good intention or betterment it's way harder to accomplish as much. What is the point of religion? I mean you have something that could be potentially good and we shit all over it for centuries and use it negatively. The Internet is a beautiful example, the good and bad thing about it is you're anonymous. For the most part when people aren't being told how to act by society, they're *******s.

Not to say there isn't good but we're definitely evil.

Think you're conflating evil with lethargy.

It's just easier to do all these things. It's easier to use credit than constantly save enough money to only ever make purchases you can afford, so we made banks. It's easier to change nature than live with it, so we changed it. It's easier to kill someone than reason with them. It's easier to kill an insect than pick it up and move it. It's harder to forget the worst things that happened to us than it is to remember the best things that happened to us. It's easier to see the differences between ourselves than it is to draw the connections that make us all the same. Etc.

Doesn't make us evil.

It's more correct to say that we're not naturally good. But all things in the world that aren't good aren't by default evil.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

We're evidently evil. We hate everything, we hate how nature looks so we destroy it and rebuild it to how we see fit. I mean we literally have slaughterhouses where we just elnslave and murder millions of animals. The whole beginning of man was us just murdering other species because they were in the way. The negative is always more powerful than the positive for some reason in reality, that's why in most fantasy the good guy usually prevails. For a lot of people it's a lot easier to kill an insect than catch it and throw it outside.

I mean who would set up society the way it is other than someone evil, most of the worlds currency is just bullshit that the banks can make at anytime. I saw this seminar video where this scientist lady was talking about how naturally are brains dwell on the negative rather than positive things that happen in life. Which is true, for the most part most people have to practice positivey. History has just been awful if you really look back, I'm sure there were good spot but for the most part we're shitty. Most evil people make it far in life, it's no joke. The amount of successful a-holes I've met compared to sincere humble ones is crazy.

Then when we kill everything else we focus on ruining ourselves. Let's create class systems, lets continue to serperate each other as finely as we can. Hitler is probably one of the most famous people in the world, look what he accomplished with just passionate hate. For the most part with good intention or betterment it's way harder to accomplish as much. What is the point of religion? I mean you have something that could be potentially good and we shit all over it for centuries and use it negatively. The Internet is a beautiful example, the good and bad thing about it is you're anonymous. For the most part when people aren't being told how to act by society, they're *******s.

Not to say there isn't good but we're definitely evil.

We have slaughterhouses because that is the fastest and most efficient way of getting necessary food to the table of billions of people. I'm surprised you called humans evil because they are doing what their instincts are telling them to do, which is to survive, to thrive. Every animal in this world was born to eat and procreate. Go stand near a hungry Lion and tell him to stop feeding on Zebras because you think it's evil. Seriously. What do you expect humans to do? Eat grass just to keep animals we can't identify ourselves with alive? We have been eating meat for millions of years because it contains protein which, if you haven't realized, is what we need to feed our bodies to stay alive. Not only that, meat tastes ****ing awesome, and we have been loving it for those millions of years.

I won't deny that we do a lot of ****ed up things... but who hurt you?

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Think you're conflating evil with lethargy.

It's just easier to do all these things. It's easier to use credit than constantly save enough money to only ever make purchases you can afford, so we made banks. It's easier to change nature than live with it, so we changed it. It's easier to kill someone than reason with them. It's easier to kill an insect than pick it up and move it. It's harder to forget the worst things that happened to us than it is to remember the best things that happened to us. It's easier to see the differences between ourselves than it is to draw the connections that make us all the same. Etc.

Doesn't make us evil.

It's more correct to say that we're not naturally good. But all things in the world that aren't good aren't by default evil.

You're talking about a national bank or state bank, I'm talking about the world banks, there's no point to money at all other than slavery. For a naturally kind person it's not hard do to any of the things you listed, you're just being difficult. There's balance, most people are naturally negative for the most part and learn positivey. There not a unbiased life option unless you're not living, you either try to be a good person for yourself and others or you don't give a fck about anything or anyone. Society teaches us not to give a ****, the weak get eliminated by the strong. A good person uses strength to uplift not serperate.

We have slaughterhouses because that is the fastest and most efficient way of getting necessary food to the table of billions of people. I'm surprised you called humans evil because they are doing what their instincts are telling them to do, which is to survive, to thrive. Every animal in this world was born to eat and procreate. Go stand near a hungry Lion and tell him to stop feeding on Zebras because you think it's evil. Seriously. What do you expect humans to do? Eat grass just to keep animals we can't identify ourselves with alive? We have been eating meat for millions of years because it contains protein which, if you haven't realized, is what we need to feed our bodies to stay alive. Not only that, meat tastes ****ing awesome, and we have been loving it for those millions of years.

I won't deny that we do a lot of ****ed up things... but who hurt you?

There are better means, there's always a better alternative. Plants and vegetables contain all the nutrients we need to survive. There's enough space that we would could move animals to another region or tame them as people have done with wild animals for ages. We have the intellect to do good but we choose not too, animals don't have the intellect to value the life of a weaker species.

 

[Claymantan]

You're talking about a national bank or state bank, I'm talking about the world banks, there's no point to money at all other than slavery. For a naturally kind person it's not hard do to any of the things you listed, you're just being difficult. There's balance, most people are naturally negative for the most part and learn positivey. There not a unbiased life option unless you're not living, you either try to be a good person for yourself and other or you don't give a fck. Society teaches us not to give a ****, the weak get eliminated by the strong. A good person uses strength to uplift not serperate.

Money was created to make exchanging goods easier. People exchanging goods isn't innately good or bad (although you could say it's less good than people just giving things to others with no strings attached, but again, doesn't make not doing this a bad thing). Banks make it easier to store money.

Aside from that. doing the wrong things =/= evil. Just equals not doing good things.

 

[CrimsonReaper]

No, humans aren't evil, humans are actually good we're pursuing more freedoms, we're sustaining peace, crime is at a low and this is only a shred of evidence that proves otherwise.

 

[Xlad]

I just know that humans in general are horny.

 

[Yubel]

All I see is appeal to authority(philosophers) coupled with your own made up stories about humanity.
Yes, we have violent impulses and yes these are surpressed to allow us to live amongst each other.

However, there is no such thing as good and evil, anyone who views the world in black and white like that needs a slap to wake up.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Money was created to make exchanging goods easier. People exchanging goods isn't innately good or bad (although you could say it's less good than people just giving things to others with no strings attached, but again, doesn't make not doing this a bad thing). Banks make it easier to store money.

Aside from that. doing the wrong things =/= evil. Just equals not doing good things.

You need to do some research on economy, people would just exchange goods and services for things without money. It's not needed, it's just a vicious system cycle of loans, interest and debt. And even still it's not working and the value of the currency and the goods still fluxuiate like when before there was money.

Even so humans for the most part are evil by nature that's why laws were put into place. No laws for a day and you'd see how evil we are.

No, humans aren't evil, humans are actually good we're pursuing more freedoms, we're sustaining peace, crime is at a low and this is only a shred of evidence that proves otherwise.

What? Why do you think we even have to pursue any of that in the first place. If we were good we wouldn't have to try so hard to be. There's also never been peace or globablly low crime rate.

 

[Claymantan]

You need to do some research on economy, people would just exchange goods and services for things without money. It's not needed, it's just a vicious cycle of loans, interest and debt.

Even so humans for the most part are evil by nature that's why laws were put into place. No laws for a day and you'd see how evil we are.

Like I said, money makes the system easier. Like, tangibly more efficient. Not saying people couldn't do without it. Just that lazy does not mean evil.

Law is subjective : people had different means for agreeing not to kill each other. That they all generally did this is more like evidence for not being naturally evil.

And like others have said, "naturally evil" is an oxymoron anyway, since good and evil aren't natural things, but man made concepts.

 

[Yubel]

You need to do some research on economy, people would just exchange goods and services for things without money. It's not needed, it's just a vicious system cycle of loans, interest and debt.

Even so humans for the most part are evil by nature that's why laws were put into place. No laws for a day and you'd see how evil we are.

We'll do things if we think we can get away with it. But who holds the law makers accountable?

Laws restrict your freedom by enforcing a rule by a higher power, punishment is the consequence of breaking that law.
But what happens when you have more power than the law, now all of a sudden it doesn't apply to you.

This is what happens whenever power is concentrated, people get more options to do things even at the expense of others with no consequences. This applies to government, police, banks, politicians and nations. There is no accountability in place for powerful institutions because they're the highest power.

Again, if they think they can get away with it, they will do it.

 

[Phact]

People are good:hugg:

 

[Deadlift]

Pride is what ****s us

 

[shelke]

Evil and good are perspectives, but based on those molds, what good lies within humanity? We are opportunistic, greedy, most humanity is borderline average to develop beyond their own cliches and limited perspectives and we cannot seem to get beyond these verges.

Are we all evil? Who knows. Are we capable of good? Not at all.

 

[Deadlift]

Evil and good are perspectives, but based on those molds, what good lies within humanity? We are opportunistic, greedy, most humanity is borderline average to develop beyond their own cliches and limited perspectives and we cannot seem to get beyond these verges.

Are we all evil? Who knows. Are we capable of good? Not at all.

You say that evil and good are perspective but we surely are evil because we're greedy and all the things. You even start saying that the most of the humans are unable to do good because too caged in their cliches. And you finally teach us that we don't know if we are all evil but we do surely know we're not good at all.

It seems to me a big load of contradictions, you maybe have studied Carneades

 

[Jinrou]

:wesobi: Has as been said, 'Good' and 'Evil' are arbitrary concepts that society created. But I'm afraid going by the definition of the arbitrary concept of Evil, in our(human) terms, i believe humans are born evil.
One absolute fact is that all beings are born with instincts. Humans of course included and i believe instincts have no morals (which of course is part of the arbitrary concept of 'Good')
Our basic instinct tells us to fight for survival and if a human that is reduced to base form(one that has absolutely nothing to their name) were to fight for his survival, he wouldn't care what he does and who he tramples on in the process. That ultimately is acting without morals. :wut:

I've kind of mumbled things a lot up there but what I'm basically trying to say is..Humans are born with the instincts to fight for survival and that would require one to act without morals and according to our definitions of the arbitrary concepts, a person without morals is termed as Evil.
Doesn't mean we aren't capable of Good though.

 

[shelke]

You say that evil and good are perspective but we surely are evil because we're greedy and all the things. You even start saying that the most of the humans are unable to do good because too caged in their cliches. And you finally teach us that we don't know if we are all evil but we do surely know we're not good at all.

It seems to me a big load of contradictions, you maybe have studied Carneades

We are a pile of hypocritical contradictions, to be honest. Perspectives makes things, yet it is subjective. Good and evil do not exist, yet no one is capable of being objective; it's an impossible perspective for us to achieve. So, you tell me?