Are Tsunade & Dan: Minato's parents?

[NewKageism]

I think he was venting on how she dumped him or talking about him missing her breast.

 

[Hyperion]

I think he was venting on how she dumped him or talking about him missing her breast.

:flaw:
NO GAME!!!

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

I think he was venting on how she dumped him or talking about him missing her breast.

nah man.. she never gave him the time of day. what he was saying about her breasts are that Tsunade breasts gets bigger everytime someone close to her dies cuz she stores all her emotions in her boobs.. i still dont understand what that means.. maybe its a japanese thing..

but yea i would like to assume that Tsunade is still a virgin :3 lol

 

[NewKageism]

12:18 look at him thinking about the good times they had together lol. Now look what he is saying. I think the fifth being a virgin is shot out the window.

First jman
then dan went ghost on her
Kakashi or Shakamaru? Next?

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also 17:09 (is the granny part of this thread)

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

12:18 look at him thinking about the good times they had together lol. Now look what he is saying. I think the fifth being a virgin is shot out the window.

First jman
then dan went ghost on her
Kakashi or Shakamaru? Next?

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also 17:09 (is the granny part of this thread)

i think he's imagining them just being friends.. Jiraiya has never gotten with Tsunade. she has never dated him or nothing. they had always been friends and hes always been rejected by her.

sooooooooo Tsunade may hopefully just be a virgin :3.... lol i have to make that face everytime i mention it

 

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

tsunade is now 54

lets say minato was about the age of kakashi as his debut when he died = 24

and from then till now its 16 yrs

24 + 16 = 40

so Tsunade would be a 14 year old mother

NO sorry but this is proof of that neva hapenin

And what if he died at the age of 20 ? They all look old for their age in Narutoverse.

 

[Hemanth]

well... its a good theory... but practically speaking i really dont think so lol..

 

[kevinj]

i dont think its possible ..... naruto is SENJU form his mom ..... remember d uzumaki clan are distant relatives of senju ...

 

[~Anubis~]

I DID NOT MAKE THIS THEORY

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read it plz

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It is pretty apparent from the hints in the manga that Tsunade and Dan are Minato's mother/father. The reason i think this is true is because there are just so many hints shown in the manga and Data-book thats its almost undeniable. So i'll try and keep this short and post them in a list

1-Tsunade and Minato have the same exact blood type(B).

2-Dan and Minato graduated the Academy at the Same time(When they were 10) *not literally the SAME year

3-Tsunade and Minato Share the Same Hair Color(Blond)

4-Minato and Dan are around the same height and weight as each other(they are only different by a 3-4 in both categories)

5-Naruto and Nawaki(tsunade's brother) look nearly identical. Shows possibly a family resemblance

6-Its interesting that naruto always calls Tsunade Grandma Tsunade, which would be very ironic on kishi's part if it was true

Now that the basic comparisons are over here's the real big evidance

5-Madara suggest that the Hokage line has been kept in the Senju clan for years. When he talks about this their is a picture of the hokage mountain and it shows the fourth hokage's head on it. This implies that the Hokage position was still held by the Senju even during the fourth Hokage's time, which inturn implies that the fourth hokage is a Senju.

Where else would he get the blood from the Senju clan then Tsunade.

6-Tsunade passes down the hokage necklace to naruto which was set to stay in Tsunade's family and passed down in their family since the first hokage. Since there is a big deal made out of the necklace i think this implies that Naruto might be in Tsunade's family.

7-Yamato remarks about naruto's Chakra being special because he is able to hold off the power of the 4-tails w/o dieing. This might be because naruto is related to the Senju clan and thus his chakra has the same qualities as Shodai which helps to protect him from the kyuubi chakra

8-There is a great amount of symbolism between Shodai-Naruto and Sasuke-Madara. They stood on that statues of each other at the valley of the end(Naruto on Shodai's and Sasuke on Madara's). Many people thought this implied that Shodai is like naruto and sasuke is like Madara. But Sasuke is actually and Uchiha so i don't see why this wouldn't also imply that naruto is a Senju.

9-And i think this is the biggest telling piece of information eventhough some people might read the dialog differently then i did. Now remember the chapter where Jiriaya tells Tsunade that he is going to Ame to look for AL and they have Sake. Well when their discussion turns to minato alot of things bother me about the way Jiriaya talks to Tsunade.

First look at Tsunade's face when she says Minato-Namikaze on page 10 chapter 367 (

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)seems very sad about saying his name. Now this can be explained away by her just having been friends with him or something and being sad thinking about how he died, but it creates a very wierd mood for what happens next. First Jiriaya goes on to brag about Minato and what he was like and his amazing Genius.

Which let me say its weird that Jiriaya even brought up Minato at this point in the conversation because previously they were talking about how Tsunade has lost so many people in the past and about how she rejected Jiriaya's advances. Then Jiriaya seems to imply that he thought of Minato as a son and brags about him to which he says that if Minato had been his son he would have bragged about him constantly.

But what makes this suspect to me is he says i never had any kids of my own while looking at Tsunade and then says if Minato had been my kid...etc.. Doesn't this sound like what some one would say to a mother who lost their child...just replace minato with your son and doesn't the whole dialog seem right.

For example i will redo the dialog this way

"Tsunade you son had talent only seen once in a decade at best. He was a genius...No one like him has been born in awhile." "He was such a nice kid yet his guts and desire to succeed were the fiercest i have ever seen." "and in the blink of an eye he was our fourth hokage." "I never had kids so i don't know what its like, but if he had been my son i would have bragged about him all the time."

Now i want you to think about what kind of character Jiriaya is. He's the guy who failed all his life at love and he failed to Dan. Now think about it if Jiriaya had succeeded with Tsunade he would have been Minato's father instead of Dan. Its basically like Jiriaya is saying he always thought of Minato as his son because he could have very well been his father if it wasn't for a simple twist of fate. Basically that whole converstation made me think that Jiriaya was talking about Minato as if he was Tsunade's son and if you read the flow of that conversation from its start to finish with the idea that Minato is Tsunade's son alot of Jiriaya's jokes and ways that he talks makes alot of sense.

So whats my theory on how Minato is Tsunade's son. I think that Tsunade got pregnant by Dan a little bit before he went off on the mission that killed him. She also was doing missions because she didn't know that she herself was pregnant yet. After Dan Died she found that she was pregnant with his child which caused her to go even more into the depression that led her to leave the village. I think after Dan died she stayed in the village long enough to give birth to Minato and then she put him up for adoption and left the village.

Years later Jiriaya trained Minato because he loved Tsunade so much. Basically Jiriaya felt like Minato could have been his kid and he wanted to be a father to Tsunade's kid becuase of his love for her. So he trained Minato and they did gain a father son bond which later resulted in Jiriaya ironically becoming naruto's God Father. Tsunade probably never told Minato that he was her kid, but all the elders of Konoha knew because they knew she put him up for adoption as a baby, which made Minato a member of the Senju clan which helped increase his chances of becoming hokage.

The genius of kishimoto can truly be seen if this theory is true. For many reasons:

1-It will be important in naruto becoming a full pledge ninja because he might develop some of Shodai's power to allow him to control the demon fox or it might help explain why he is able to finally control the demon fox with his own chakra. It would also build up the tension between Sasuke and Naruto if naruto was a true Senju clan member.
2-It fit perfectly with the irony of Jiriaya's story/character. Jiriaya failed in love eventhough and Dan won out. Jiriaya could have been Minato's father, but he ended up becoming Minato's Sensei and Foster father figure anyway. Eventhough he failed in love with Tsunade he was still able to become part of Minato's family and even became naruto's God father.
3-It would fit perfectly with Tsunade's dynamic with naruto and her troubled past storyline. It would also be amazing if naruto did find out Tsunade was his grandmother right before she died. Also Tsunade would then be in a position to be the one to reveal naruto's entire lineage to him. It would also make sense why she was so willing to bet the necklace with naruto because he is part of the Senju clan as well

your theory is not bad but .. don't you think it's quite impossible...

 

[paizinho]

I don´t think so. lol

 

[mysteryakatsuki]

im just hear restating tsunade would be to young to have minato
*quoting from a guy*
minato was like 24 when he died
24+16=40
tsunade is like 54
54-40=14
plus they dont look similar

 

[hghland smeg head]

I covered this Already....

It isn't Tsunade and Dan who are Minato's parents...

It IS Tsunade and..... wait for it.....Jiraiya. There is much more Evidence to prove this theory than the Dan theory...

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I think the same way, also Naruto is way too much like Jiraiya that even Orochimaur siad that they have styles and only they could become toad sages. 1 last thing time line is not set in stone ,_( } )

 

[Needles]

of course theree nothis parentsyou fkin retardthere not that old! >.>

 

[Yugure]

im just hear restating tsunade would be to young to have minato
*quoting from a guy*
minato was like 24 when he died
24+16=40
tsunade is like 54
54-40=14
plus they dont look similar

I don't get what this reply add to the discussion...

Well, the village is created by the Senju, so I guess almost everyone is in one way or another family...

 

[Chief Toad]

Tsunade had a hot 3some with both JMan and Dan and she didn't know who the father was so she gave Minato up to a close friend in another village. xdxdxd

 

[RainbowUnicorns]

hmmm... that's actually a pretty good theory XD I mean, Naruto does tend to pop out a random thing like that right? YOU DOUBTERS JUST WATCH. IT'LL POP UP SOON OR LATER. [or not]

 

[Vhoopee]

ok here it is; When Tsunade was "found" by Naruto and Jariaya she was said to be 50.

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Since that time about a year passed before Naruto left and 3 until his return. This is made evident by the time spent getting her and the fact that the village was completely repaired before they left. And as we have seen recently; despite having the ability to use jutsu's to rebuild it is done by hand in the old ways. Using this as the basis would put her at 54-55 years of age. Now even if we take the average of the debate on Minato's age, since this is the true question, of 22 and add in Naruto's age of 16 that would be 38. subtract this from Tsunades age and we get 16-17. This makes it within the realm of possiblity but for some quite a stretch.

Please try to remember this is being written in Japan with Japanese cultural rules. Last time I check and please correct me if I am wrong, The Japanese are very accepting of younger marriages/parents and also of nudity. This is illistrated by

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, and this is just one instance there are many.

So those of you trying to argue that it is inappropriate for older teens to be having kids or getting married please try to remember where this is being written.

 

[NewKageism]

wow ^ thats so solid right there. Good work

 

[Saphlan]

Minato Possible Ages
20 21 22 23 24 25
+16 for current age

36 37 38 39 40 41

Tsunade Current Age

54

54 - Minato current age = Age of Tsunade when she gave birth to Minato

18 17 16 15 14 13

So any of these is possible.
Naruto chapter 450, page 15; Council mentioned that Minato was younger than what Kakashi is now (thirty years old) when he became the Hokage

And since it seemed like SUCH a BIG DEAL when Minato became a Hokage so young, he was probably in his early twenties(20-23). Which means Tsunade would be 16-18 when she gave birth. Seems early to me but you know Tsunade was really in love, so it might be possible. But the theory seems very solid. Other than the ages it would make sense. But even the ages might be possible.

And as someone above said, the japanase are very accepting of nudity and young marriage/***. So even 15 is possible. But is 16 is most likely the earliest.

 

[lorul2]

How is there evidence? You're not reading the same manga as me.

Let me enlighten you...

Circumstantial Evidence number 1:

We can start with the hair. Lee and Guy prove that hairstyles can be copied, but if you take Tsunade's face and put it on Jiraiya's head, color the hair Blonde, you have Minato.


Circumstantial Evidence number 2:
Jiraiya talking to Tsunade says he never had any kids but if he did he would boast about them all the time. Then Jiraiya begins to praise Minato on his abilities, his looks, and his talent. Anytime Jiraiya talks about Minato he praises him. (My guess he thinks Minato is his son but wants Tsunade to tell him.)


Circumstantial Evidence number 3:
"I remeber in the past you said the same thing "I decline" when I asked you out."

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. This implys there was a time when Tsunade and Jiraiya may have had a relationship.


Circumstantial Evidence number 4:
In the Anime and the Manga Tsunade is shocked to hear that Jiraiya is going to stay to take care of the orphans. Maybe there is someone else he needs to be taking care of?


Here is the timeline I'm using. The likely time period for the Tsunade "Secret Pregnancy" would be around the middle of the 2nd Ninja War, probably on the way back to Konoha when they met the three orphan's, she already knew she was pregnant. Jman was away for three years, training Nagato, Yahiko, and Konan. This was the time she probably met Dan and he died. (He probably knew about her son and loved her anyway. Also interesting here is her wardrobe change once she came back and met Dan, more motherly if you ask me.) Years after he got back he trained the group with Minato at age 10 (I don't believe he trained this group before Pain's group because that would mean Minato fought in the 2nd Ninja war .). Around nine years later Kakashi is made a Jonin. which makes Minato about 6 years older than Kakashi. Since Kakashi is now 30, Minato would be about 36, then you subtract Tsunade's 54, that makes her 18 when she was pregnant.

Not definate proof, but more than enough for a debate.