Are the shinobi kage level?

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@bold: Right like she did against Pein? Lol

What did Tsunade,a Hokage, do apart from letting 60% of the village die? not to mention the village itself
 
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What did Tsunade,a Hokage, do apart from letting 60% of the village die? not to mention the village itself

She summoned Katsuya to heal a bunch of people. She was even ready to face Pein in her weak condition till Naruto stopped her.
 

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She summoned Katsuya to heal a bunch of people. She was even ready to face Pein in her weak condition till Naruto stopped her.

She failed to save Kakashi and a number of other ninjas.Thats why I said she saved like 40% of the village but failed to protect it in a concrete manner by fighting Pain while ninjas like Kakashi were doing that very thing.Healing is good but simultaneously more people were getting slaughtered so what was the point? All she did was talk tough but failed in actual delivery

She was also gonna get wrecked by Asura Path(the Weakest Path which Kakashi killed as did Jiraiya and also Naruto with one Punch) looking at her jaw drop till Naruto saved her.Pain was literally succeeding in doing whatever the fck he wanted.Jiraiya's fight with Pain was much more epic

I was very disappointed with Tsunade in the Pain Arc.I remember I was expecting a fight when Deva Path landed in on her but she did jack shit instead hoping Naruto would arrive.
 
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Wow. Everything the K11 did during the war wasn't enough to cement them all being promoted to jonin. Considering what Lee did to protect the village in The Last; that's even more shocking.

Lee will say, status is not important, but the most important is keep training and preserve our youth day

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Lee will say, status is not important, but the most important is keep training and preserve our youth day

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That's true. It's not like ninja ranks matter anymore.

Shikamaru making Jonin, I don't find surprising at all. Sakura though? I suspect Tsunade may have promoted her student just prior to leaving office. Recall Shizune is also a jonin and she's weaker than Sakura and has no feats.
 

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That's true. It's not like ninja ranks matter anymore.

Shikamaru making Jonin, I don't find surprising at all. Sakura though? I suspect Tsunade may have promoted her student just prior to leaving office. Recall Shizune is also a jonin and she's weaker than Sakura and has no feats.

Shizune nearly soloed Kabuto in Part 1
 

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Shizune nearly soloed Kabuto in Part 1

Nearly? I wouldn't call an almost lucky blast of poison fog a close solo. Kabuto though, out fought Tsunade and severed Shizune's Achilles tendons in that fight. Genin Naruto managed to pancake Kabuto with rasengan. Which took Kabutops out of the fight, even though Kabuto had started regenning before the attack hit.
 
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She failed to save Kakashi and a number of other ninjas.Thats why I said she saved like 40% of the village but failed to protect it in a concrete manner by fighting Pain while ninjas like Kakashi were doing that very thing.Healing is good but simultaneously more people were getting slaughtered so what was the point? All she did was talk tough but failed in actual delivery

She was also gonna get wrecked by Asura Path(the Weakest Path which Kakashi killed as did Jiraiya and also Naruto with one Punch) looking at her jaw drop till Naruto saved her.Pain was literally succeeding in doing whatever the fck he wanted.Jiraiya's fight with Pain was much more epic

I was very disappointed with Tsunade in the Pain Arc.I remember I was expecting a fight when Deva Path landed in on her but she did jack shit instead hoping Naruto would arrive.

I herd some where that she was planned to face Pein. But later that plan was changed so Naruto could fight him.
 

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In power - Lee/Sakura
In intelligence - Shikamaru/Sakura

Though i am skeptical about the supposedely required intellect and power for a kage as A and Kakashi became kages.
 

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In power - Lee/Sakura
In intelligence - Shikamaru/Sakura

Though i am skeptical about the supposedely required intellect and power for a kage as A and Kakashi became kages.

Becoming Kage seems to be a retail process. Just who the majority and the previous Kage like better.

Hashirama wanted Madara to be the 2nd but Madara defected. So Tobirama became the 2nd.

Tobirama was between Hiruzen and Danzo, but Hiruzen spoke up first so Tobirama appointed him. He even tells Danzo he was too slow in deciding.

Hiruzen had to choose between Orochimaru and Minato for the 4th. Danzo supported Oro, but Hiruzen saw the darkness growing in Oro at the time and instead choice Minato.

The Konoha Elders wanted Jiraiya for the 5th but he turned them down. They settled for Tsunade since she was also at Jiraiya's level and was trained by Hiruzen.

For the 6th it was down to Kakashi and Danzo. Danzo pushed things in his favor and was made acting 6th but that didn't last long. After the war, Tsunade probably choice Kakashi over Naruto, feeling Kakashi would be a better leader in the post war reconstruction era. Kakashi was a prospect Kage replacement for Tsunade as far back as chapter 367. However Kakashi never wanted to be Hokage and stated as much several times. I think he only took the job as a favor to Obito. This of course after Kakashi lost his sharigan and the use of raikiri and ended up being weaker than current Tsunade.

After Kakashi finished seat warming, Naruto was Kakashi's choice to replace him.
 

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Sakura couldn't do a damn thing against Spiral Zetsu's summoning. While Tsunade is strong than A who overpowered Gyuuki.

Hashirama died before Tobirama, who died during Hiruzen's young adult/teen years. He was much older when he trained 12-13 year old Tsunade.

Again baseless statements, post a scan the supports that Sakura was powerless against Spirals Zetsu's summon (prove that).
 

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Neji has all it takes to be a homage. The rest have deficits in different areas
 
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Based on feats, techniques and intelligence (being smart counts)?

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I herd some where that she was planned to face Pein. But later that plan was changed so Naruto could fight him.

it's a pretty much solid rumor, i think they were rushing him for time or something, she should have fought pein and it's something that i would never forget, he could have made that fight amazing because we knew not much about tsunade at that point power wise. Basically do the same thing he did with jiraya vs pein we saw so much of his skills. Disappointed.
 

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it's a pretty much solid rumor, i think they were rushing him for time or something, she should have fought pein and it's something that i would never forget, he could have made that fight amazing because we knew not much about tsunade at that point power wise. Basically do the same thing he did with jiraya vs pein we saw so much of his skills. Disappointed.

Yup it could have been a intense fight. I was very impressed with her against Madara. I just wondered why she never did that stuff sooner?
 

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Yup it could have been a intense fight. I was very impressed with her against Madara. I just wondered why she never did that stuff sooner?

She is weaker than Jiraiya so its possible that she would lose badly against Deva Path thats why it was not shown

Did you see the surprise she showed when Naruto took out Asura Path who is the weakest Path already killed twice by then?
 

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She is weaker than Jiraiya so its possible that she would lose badly against Deva Path thats why it was not shown

Did you see the surprise she showed when Naruto took out Asura Path who is the weakest Path already killed twice by then?

Well even I was suprised when he did that. Because he did it in an instant.

Yeah she would defiantly lose the fight. She would probably take down one or two Pein paths.
 

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You know the guy in the gif you posted is Idi Amin.

He tortured and killed many Africans because of the ancestry, practice cannibalism and severely dismembered his wife.
 

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Again baseless statements, post a scan the supports that Sakura was powerless against Spirals Zetsu's summon (prove that).

Shikamaru said that Hiruzen was the only one that could do anything. The Kages were weakened from their fight with Madara.
 
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