Are atheists allowed to be spiritual?

[Fountain]

Wow you're so oppressed, even though 75% of the country identify as Christians.

Did you pull that number out of your rear or did you actually went house by house asking the entire population of the country if they're Christians? And how do you know i'm a Christian? Is that all you ever do? Assume shit? Also what does your comment have to do with what i said exactly?

Kind of hypocritical how you're always assuming things but you give Christians so much shit. Christians always btw. Out of the many religions out there. It's like you got a personal grudge/crusade against Christianity or something.

 

[Lightbringer]

Did you pull that number out of your rear or did you actually went house by house asking the entire population of the country if they're Christians? And how do you know i'm a Christian? Is that all you ever do? Assume shit? Also what does your comment have to do with what i said exactly?

Kind of hypocritical how you're always assuming things but you give Christians so much shit. Christians always btw. Out of the many religions out there. It's like you got a personal grudge/crusade against Christianity or something.

There are statistics about it. But let me guess, facts don't matter to you because they don't align with your beliefs.

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[Fountain]

There are statistics about it. But let me guess, facts don't matter to you because they don't align with your beliefs.

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How did i knew you were gonna post a link with statistics? LMFAO "facts". Let me repeat myself: Did you went house by house asking every single person in the entire country wether they are Christian or not? Just answer yes or no. Also, again, what did your comment had to do in correlation with what i said?

 

[Lightbringer]

How did i knew you were gonna post a link with statistics? LMFAO "facts". Let me repeat myself: Did you went house by house asking every single person in the entire country wether they are Christian or not? Just answer yes or no. Also, again, what did your comment had to do in correlation with what i said?

@Bold: Summary of everything you stand for. Nothing you believe is supported by facts, but that's ok because you're an ignorant dolt.

Anyways. I just proved my point and walking away from this mess. You keep being a snowflake.

 

[Fountain]

@Bold: Summary of everything you stand for. Nothing you believe is supported by facts, but that's ok because you're an ignorant dolt.

Anyways. I just proved my point and walking away from this mess. You keep being a snowflake.

Even a single individual would make a difference in your 75% percentage for it to be factual. I'll ask again: Did you ask every single person in the country wether they're Christians or not?

You can forget the other question.

 

[Lightbringer]

Even a single individual would make a different in your 75% percentage for it to be factual. I'll ask again: Did you ask every single person in the country wether they're Christians or not?

You can forget the other question.

It's not surprising that someone who flunked school doesn't understand basic concepts of math and statistics.

 

[Fountain]

It's not surprising that someone who flunked school doesn't understand basic concepts of math and statistics.

Dude. It's a simple question. Yes or no?

 

[Lightbringer]

Dude. It's a simple question. Yes or no?

Yup, I did. Did you?

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Does anything belong to religion? Morality? Spirituality? Weddings? Funerals?

And if it does, then are atheists like myself cherry picking religious things we like and is this hypocritical?

Yes, because atheism, weddings, funderals were all derived from religion...but just about all of you, want those things.

Religion made you, atheist and all. A walking self-contradiction.

@Bold: Summary of everything you stand for. Nothing you believe is supported by facts, but that's ok because you're an ignorant dolt.

Anyways. I just proved my point and walking away from this mess. You keep being a snowflake.

Lmao, everything you know, stems from or is supported by someone else's knowledge.There is no you.

You're basically a walking shelf for books. And you assume that someone else's information, that's used at your own dispense, is accurate. Sort of a "copy-cat", too.

Co-dependance is an accurate word for you. Man-made, not self-made.

It took a village to raise you.

 

[Lightbringer]

Lmao, everything you know, stems from or is supported by someone else's knowledge.There is no you.

You're basically a walking shelf for books. And you assume that someone else's information, that's used at your own dispense, is accurate.

Co-dependance is an accurate word for you. Man-made, not self-made.

Ok and what's your point? How is this relevant to the discussion?

Everything you do and know is due to external influence as well. What a revelation!

 

[Edogawa]

Actually we are all born atheists.

You don't know what atheism means. Thankfully, Lightbringer saved me the trouble of explaining the concept to you. So no, no one is born an atheist.

 

[Lightbringer]

You don't know what atheism means. Thankfully, Lightbringer saved me the trouble of explaining the concept to you. So no, no one is born an atheist.

Yes they are. People aren't born with the belief in Gods or the supernatural.

 

[Edogawa]

It's not surprising that someone who flunked school doesn't understand basic concepts of math and statistics.

It doesn't actually have anything to do with basics. Statistics like that generalize the entire population based on, say...1000 people who answered the questionnaire. The percentage may in reality be higher or lower, but that doesn't matter anyway. Like Fountain told you and like I've told you before and telling you now, not everybody shares your beliefs. You're living in a democracy where you're free to practice the belief you want, but stop shoving atheism down our throats.

Yes they are. People aren't born with the belief in Gods or the supernatural.

People aren't born with denial in Gods or supernatural creatures.

 

[Lightbringer]

It doesn't actually have anything to do with basics. Statistics like that generalize the entire population based on, say...1000 people who answered the questionnaire. The percentage may in reality be higher or lower, but that doesn't matter anyway. Like Fountain told you and like I've told you before and telling you now, not everybody shares your beliefs. You're living in a democracy where you're free to practice the belief you want, but stop shoving atheism down our throats.

That's ironic since this country revolves around shoving Christianity down everyone's throats. You have a constitutional right to practice any belief. The only people who are denying your right as a Muslim are Christians, specifically those who voted for Trump as they are trying to argue that the U.S. was founded upon Christianity and that Islam is destructive and should be banned. That's not atheists trying to ban your religion.

Atheism isn't a practice like religion. You don't celebrate a day for atheism like Christmas or Hannukah. What people want is secularism, meaning a government that isn't influenced or biased toward any religion. But not being biased, does not equate to banning a religion.

People aren't born with denial in Gods or supernatural creatures.

You just credited me for giving an accurate definition of atheism, yet now you just gave an inaccurate definition of atheism in this comment. Atheism isn't denial, it's lack of faith. Lack of faith is not denial. It's just a void.

People aren't born with faith nor are they born with denial of supernatural. They are born as a clean slate. Faith and denial develop as they grow.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

As expected, the usual champions of anti-intellectualism in this section are denying statistics.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Ok and what's your point? How is this relevant to the discussion?

Everything you do and know is due to external influence as well. What a revelation!

My point was pretty spot on, actually.Why deny the truth.

Everything you do and know is due to external influence as well

There's holes in your logic.That's not what's true, but atleast what you wish to paint of the issue. It's too conclusive and one-sided, but at least you've attempted make yourself sound as if you know what you're talking about.

You say discussing anything with me is like beating a dead horse, but honestly, discussing anything with you is always one-sided and faulty. You're not smart, to be honest. There's tons of hidden holes in your logic...kind of really good at what you do.Maybe that's why you rely of the information of another self-entitled genius that convinces you that his/her information is accurate. You really put these people on a pedestal.

Terms like agnostic, atheist, etc...all of em were invented out of retaliation against religion, these people technically still look up to religion, or take it into consideration.In fact, it stems from religion, and the doctrine that everyone should have a faith in a higher power.That was the human "standard", but my point is, as expressed many threads ago, it shouldn't have even been that way. There's nothing to go by, so therefore no one should be categorized for not believing in something that isn't substantial. In a way, your life is still being controlled/influenced by religion, and you're being categorized as something else, for not having/being apart of one. I want no parts of it. You're being painted as an "outcast" or some "non-believer" for not being insane or delusional.

We really shouldn't have entertained the idea.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

It doesn't actually have anything to do with basics. Statistics like that generalize the entire population based on, say...1000 people who answered the questionnaire. The percentage may in reality be higher or lower, but that doesn't matter anyway. Like Fountain told you and like I've told you before and telling you now, not everybody shares your beliefs. You're living in a democracy where you're free to practice the belief you want, but stop shoving atheism down our throats.

The manipulative part, is that they're using the propaganda "everyone is born an athiest", when really, babies don't even think, so they cannot have any form of concept of reality.They shouldn't even be used as an example in this argument. Terms such as those, shouldn't even apply to those at a disadvantage or unable to even think.That in itself, is manipulative of information. These people like to paint the perfect picture about things.

Stuff like that, I just do not like.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Ok, but what is your point and how does this realization impact the topic of this thread?

It's just useless jargon that's not news to anyone but yourself. Don't waste my time with kindergarten babble.




So in other words, people are born Atheist....wow.

You know you can't use someone that can't even think, as an example. It's not only manipulative and desperate, it's kind of pathetic, too.

Might as well say "animals are atheist"...it's stupid. Terms like those can't even apply to them, cause they can't even think. They don't even choose to be. Manipulating the fact that they're incapable of even thinking, and using that support your own argument.It's really desperate and on the selfish side.

 

[Lightbringer]

You know you can't use someone that can't even think, as an example. It's not only manipulative and desperate, it's kind of pathetic, too.

Might as well say "animals are atheist"...it's stupid. Terms like those can't even apply to them, cause they can't even think. They don't even choose to be. Manipulating the fact that they're incapable of even thinking, and using that support your own argument.It's really desperate and on the selfish side.

I will repeat myself. Atheism is the lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Do babies and animals lack belief? Yes, you even said it yourself. So yes, they are Atheist.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

a·the·ism
ˈāTHēˌizəm/
noun
noun: atheism
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.


Babies are incapable of believing in a god, therefore they have a lack of belief in the existence of gods and are atheists. All it takes to understand this is basic reading comprehension and the ability to think things through instead of impulsively disagreeing with it because you perceive it as undermining your side's viewpoints.