Ao could have fight against Shisui without problems

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Remembering that Ao said he fought against Shisui here:
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and after thinking a little bit about how he could have fight him and avoiding being caught in genjutsus, i came to the conclusion that it may be possible.

Yes, Ao could do this thanks to the Byakugan. To use sharingan genjutsu, eye contact is needed, but look again at this pic:
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You can clearly see that his eye is protected, but thanks to Byakugan ability he can see through it.

That's a great advantage that gives the Byakugan comparing with other dojutsus. It's that you can fight and see what is happening even if you close your eyes. So by doing this, Ao could have fight against Shisui without problems :)

Another conclusion of this is that a Byakugan user can actually fight against Sharingan without problems if the user is skill enough
 

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What the heck..... sooooooo much fail. He never said it was used against him... FAIL!
 

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What the heck..... sooooooo much fail. He never said it was used against him... FAIL!
So what? So besides from KA, Shisui can't use regular genjutsus?? What's fail in my post?
 

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nice job unlike those who say shisui can beat hashi with KA which i'm not saying is impossible but high jonin like gai should be able to beat him a well xd
 

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Errm no if you look in their eyes even with Byakugan you are screwed. There is also ways to cast genjutsu without eye contact.


Besides we don't know what happened in that fight.
 

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Errm no if you look in their eyes even with Byakugan you are screwed. There is also ways to cast genjutsu without eye contact.


Besides we don't know what happened in that fight.


not at all

if ao has byakugan activated, and someone with a regular sharingan is behind them, they can technically see their eyes, but the sharingan cant cast genjutsu on the back of ao's head :|
 

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I reckon Shisui didn't use KA in that fight. (under Cooldown)

If he did, Ao would have lost.
 

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Good point. We haven't seen KA used properly before so it's hard to comment on how it works but it does seem like you could avoid regular eye genjutsu if you break the opponent's eye contact with you.

On second thought KA doesn't require direct eye contact because Danzou used it at the kage summit without removing his bandages from his eye. Still this seems like a possible way to avoid standard genjutsu.
 
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not at all

if ao has byakugan activated, and someone with a regular sharingan is behind them, they can technically see their eyes, but the sharingan cant cast genjutsu on the back of ao's head :|

I guess so...
 

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No. this is a fail bro
You title is not possible.
 

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No. this is a fail bro
You title is not possible.
How do you know that? We don't even know Shisui at all, like we don't know what happened that time in this fight, unless you show me the mangapage about their fight.

Anyway i'm only trying to show how possibly Ao could have fight him. I'm not saying if he win that time or not. It's only a possibility and i think it's really possible
 

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How do you know that? We don't even know Shisui at all, like we don't know what happened that time in this fight, unless you show me the mangapage about their fight.

Anyway i'm only trying to show how possibly Ao could have fight him. I'm not saying if he win that time or not. It's only a possibility and i think it's really possible

because KA does not even require eye contact that is why you fail. if shisui has Ka available its impossible to fight him.
 

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because KA does not even require eye contact that is why you fail. if shisui has Ka available its impossible to fight him.
Show me the page where it's stated it doesn't require eye contact. It's only fanboys who came with such BS. If it was the case then Danzo was idiot to show his eye against Sasuke when he was about to use the jutsu. He could have use it discretly, what he didn't do
 

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Show me the page where it's stated it doesn't require eye contact. It's only fanboys who came with such BS. If it was the case then Danzo was idiot to show his eye against Sasuke when he was about to use the jutsu. He could have use it discretly, what he didn't do

What are you talking about? Danzo used it on Mifune with the bandage covering his eyes.

Danzo didn't use it on Sasuke because it needed time to recharge.
 

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What are you talking about? Danzo used it on Mifune with the bandage covering his eyes.

Danzo didn't use it on Sasuke because it needed time to recharge.
Against Mifune we can't know what happened before the council was even started. It's possible he put him under this genjutsu already at that time without he even knew.

Against Sasuke i'm talking about when his eye already recharged. He prefered remove his bandage to use Shisuis eye instead of using it discretly, why?

There is no page in this manga who says that Shisuis genjutsu doesn't need eye contact.
 

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idk why people call this a fail, it's just a theory and I actually really like it. Using Byakugan to counter eye-contact initiated jutsus sounds awesome to me. +rep :)
 

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Against Mifune we can't know what happened before the council was even started. It's possible he put him under this genjutsu already at that time without he even knew.

Against Sasuke i'm talking about when his eye already recharged. He prefered remove his bandage to use Shisuis eye instead of using it discretly, why?

There is no page in this manga who says that Shisuis genjutsu doesn't need eye contact.

It's implied that he can. Nowhere at the time Danzo could have met with Mifune before the council. See he was the last one to show up.

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Here he was thinking on using it on Tobi but how Tobi was so far away....

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Kotoama doesn't require eye contact..
 
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