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[AlphaScythian]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

You say egnjutsu is out? Itachi was said to be able to catch even the most skilled Sharingan users in Genjutsu he even cought Kakashi in Tsukyomi and the Genjutsu Proof Kabuto in a genjutsu! What chance does Obito have? Izanami one shots with low diff.

Totsuka seals in 1/1000th of a second Manga Fact Kamui is FAR slower even Madara had time to react... Nagato one of the best sensory ninja could not evade Totsuka even as an edo! It one shots faster than OBito can say Kamui!

Taijutsu...Itachi is not stupid...LOL

How does obito get past Itachi's complete Susano'o in which Black Zetsu with Madara's will and intellect said that Itachi was Literally "INvincible" With totsuka and Yata and that orochimaru search his entire imortal life searching for them!


you should try stating how Obito kills ITachi not how obito defends against Itachi's techs because he truly doesn't.

None of this will ever work, Obito will just stand there intangible for 5 min + izanagi for 10 on top and itachi dies from exhaustion

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

basically this....

Thanks for the support I am trying to defend the Legacy of the undefeated Itachi(LIFE AND AFTERLIFE)... but it is very difficult

 

[Scryed]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

Kamui sure is an annoying power isn't it?

It tends to make people rage.

 

[Agumon]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

You underrate Itachi .

 

[A$AP Wap]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

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This thread is biased asf. Obito feared Itachi though.
Oh, and to all of those moves, Kamui isn't the solution to all of them.

Itachi would eventually figure out how Kamui works faster, and more accurately than Konan, but he doesn't even need to know how Kamui works to actually solo Obito.
[Amaterasu] Itachi is able to create a Transcription seal with Amaterasu so as soon his Mangekyo takes a look at Tobi's Sharingan, Tobi will be instantly hit with Amaterasu, burning him and leaving him vulnerable and distracted long enough for Itachi to Activate Susano'o and stab Tobi in the chest with Totsuka Blade.

Spoiler

Both their Mangekyo eyes meeting;

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Itachi would be like, "Got cho ass!"

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The flames spread promptly, so it's a fact that he will get hurt;

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While he's surprised and distracted with the flames, Itachi solo's him;

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So unless Obito immediately uses Izanagi to avoid the flames, which would take just a few seconds, more than enough time for Itachi to seal Obito with Totsuka Blade, he's not winning this fight.

[Totsuka] Stated Above. He doesn't have to strike Obito while he's using Kamui.

Only against these two things in Itachi's arsenal will Kamui actually matter;
[Katon] Itachi's Katon surpasses Obito's, so in the end, Obito will have to resort to using Kamui in a Katon vs Katon battle.
[Taijutsu] Itachi's Taijutsu also surpasses Obito's. To even keep up, he'd need to occasionally make himself intangible.

/Making this a new Thread, brb​

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[Prince Charles]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

It all comes down to tactics, the main reason I say Obito wins is because Zetsu recorded the fight between sasuke and itachi and showed it to Obito.

Other than that Itachi should be more than capable of figuring out the mechanics behind kamui or at least the basics. Using his fast hand seal speed if obito attempts to warp itachi he could be warping a Explosive clone which would detonate right in his face or a crow clone.

The only way I see itachi winning is through totsuka blade by catching obito off guard or Genjutsu. That's pretty much it.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

None of this will ever work, Obito will just stand there intangible for 5 min + izanagi for 10 on top and itachi dies from exhaustion

Let me explain... Kamui take advantage of the Sharingan abiltiy piercing eye which allows the user to track high speed and small objects such as Lightning Kunai and Needles and with that perception he is able to teleport part of his body directly proportional to the intended landing spot of the Kunai which is also perceived with peircing eye... but this has a limit like when Sasuke fought Naruto and Naruto used the Kyuubi's power getting faster and sasuke had to re adjust oor adapt to his speed... Obito is far more skilled but he can only tack a certain speed but 1/1000th of a second is faster than sound even Madara couldn't defend against gai's attack which was faster than sound so Obito cannot percieve the intended landing spot of totsuka in time too use Kamui.... MIND****ED?

 

[AlphaScythian]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

Let me explain... Kamui take advantage of the Sharingan abiltiy piercing eye which allows the user to track high speed and small objects such as Lightning Kunai and Needles and with that perception he is able to teleport part of his body directly proportional to the intended landing spot of the Kunai which is also perceived with peircing eye... but this has a limit like when Sasuke fought Naruto and Naruto used the Kyuubi's power getting faster and sasuke had to re adjust oor adapt to his speed... Obito is far more skilled but he can only tack a certain speed but 1/1000th of a second is faster than sound even Madara couldn't defend against gai's attack which was faster than sound so Obito cannot percieve the intended landing spot of totsuka in time too use Kamui.... MIND****ED?

If itachi could perceive kirin and form susanoo why wouldnt obito perceive totsuka?

How about Obito teleported into kage summit and snatched sasuke out before jinton and no one even perceived him, can itachi w/o sensing feats counter that?

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

Tobi trapped a supposedly perfect Jinchuriki in a Genjutsu for several years. Kakashi is nowhere near that level of Genjutsu. Kabuto is immune to Itachi's visual Genjutsu such as Tsukuyomi, Izanami is not visual. Izanami one-shots with low dif? Go read Itachi and Sasuke vs Kabuto and see how long Izanami's set up is. So yes, Genjutsu is out.

Susano'o spawns in 1/1000th of a second. Itachi's strike with Totsuka has never been shown to be that fast. Plus, Kamui activates in around that time too. Nagato was literally out of his mind at that time. What Rinnegan newb Kabuto was doing with Nagato cannot be considered Nagato's own actions.

Kamui intangibility > Susano'o.

dood Izanami still works because Obito is clearly confuse especially with the whole Rin BS... and Even Highly Skilled genjutsu user lose to Itachi's genjutsu Obito is highly skilled and still loses but really I won't think Obito loses to genjutsu. I think Totsuka wins this because if Totsuk is made of the Same material as Yata Mirror and Susano'o(Chakra) then Totsuka moves at the same speed. how do you think Nagato got hit? he didn't even notice till like 3 seconods after...LOL sad! and Kabuto was clearly a rinnegan noob right? he knew more about the Rinnegan and six paths than Nagato! he had Nagato put up a great fight!

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

If itachi could perceive kirin and form susanoo why wouldnt obito perceive totsuka?

If Yata can be activated BEFORE Kirin struck then that makes Yata and Totsuka faster than Kirin right? also Itachi was their when Zetsu and Sasuke were bragging about how fast Kirin was and he knew that a lightning attack of that magnitude would be VERY fast so he was ready to defend... Itachi is not going to brag for 10 seconds before using Totsuka he will catch Obito off guard and plus ITachi's skill with the Sharingan surpasses that of Obito and he is much smarter... compare kid Obito and Kid ITachi in intellect and adult version too Itachi is a natural born Genuis... Obito is never known as a genius even though he is smart. that is a huge edge too ITachi.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

If Yata can be activated BEFORE Kirin struck then that makes Yata and Totsuka faster than Kirin right? also Itachi was their when Zetsu and Sasuke were bragging about how fast Kirin was and he knew that a lightning attack of that magnitude would be VERY fast too he fast read to defend... Itachi is not going to brag for 10 seconds before using Totsuka he will catch Obito off guard and plus ITachi's skill with the Sharingan surpasses that of Obito and he is much smarter... compare kid Obito and Kid ITachi in intellect and adult version too Itachi is a natural born Genuis... Obito is never known as a genius even though he is smart. that is a huge edge too ITachi.

Yata was never active against kirin, otherwise susanoo wouldnt be wrecked, i guess its not that fast.

Obito's sharingan is stronger, he can see nano scale bugs with 3t while sasuke needed CM. He is only uchiha to awaken 2t right away and skipped 3t to MS. He is most emotional of them all thus his sharingan would be strongest.

Your genius itachi failed killing obito and never even tried facing him U_U

Did you omit my counter argument on purpose? How does itachi deal with S/T blitz.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

See Obito is not teleporting inside susano'o. I id not admit I was just saying Totsuka is faster than kirin meaning even if Obito can track Kirin speed(Which he most likely can't) then that would not help because Totsuka is faster than Kirin! also how is itachi ganna lose? Obito can't kill him. if so how?

 

[Dantee]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

Kamui is overwanked. The only reason we can accept Obito > Itachi or Hashirama < Obito .....lel is because we will never see them fight. These type of shinobi will work there way out of predicaments just like Minato could have. Kamui isn't impossible to counter fanboys just make it seem that way.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

Kamui is overwanked. The only reason we can accept Obito > Itachi or Hashirama < Obito .....lel is because we will never see them fight. These type of shinobi will work there way out of predicaments just like Minato could have. Kamui isn't impossible to counter fanboys just make it seem that way.

True that you should look at my comments then you will see just how bad the fanboyism is

 

[HiddenSound]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

Kamui is overwanked. The only reason we can accept Obito > Itachi or Hashirama < Obito .....lel is because we will never see them fight. These type of shinobi will work there way out of predicaments just like Minato could have. Kamui isn't impossible to counter fanboys just make it seem that way.

Except where Minato can work his way out of Kamui, Itachi can't.

 

[Dantee]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

Except where Minato can work his way out of Kamui, Itachi can't.

Explosive clone feint while he warps the wrong ITachi,

 

[HiddenSound]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

Explosive clone feint while he warps the wrong ITachi,

That right there, is the only good answer I've ever seen for Itachi.
But, Izanagi.

 

[Draphsin]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

That right there, is the only good answer I've ever seen for Itachi.
But, Izanagi.

An obito with a summon induces susanoo, thereby removing itachi's ability to create clones.

& If this is obito w/o a summon then itachi still needs a way to distract him in order to pull it off.

 

[HiddenSound]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

An obito with a summon induces susanoo, thereby removing itachi's ability to create clones.

& If this is obito w/o a summon then itachi still needs a way to distract him in order to pull it off.

Also, Part 1 Kakashi seemed to know that Shadow Clone doubled as a bomb. If Part 1 Kakashi, who is far inferior to Tobi at Sharingan, could tell, then Tobi most likely could too.

 

[Draphsin]

Re: Itachi > Tobi

Also, Part 1 Kakashi seemed to know that Shadow Clone doubled as a bomb. If Part 1 Kakashi, who is far inferior to Tobi at Sharingan, could tell, then Tobi most likely could too.

So yeah it's unlikely for obito to be caught by one.