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Re: Itachi > Tobi

I actually think that Itachi has a chance at beatong Obito.

I mean why else would Obito avoid him? Itachi was the only one to figure out that he had entered Konoha, that's got to count for something.

Not only that but various people have figured out Kamui (Sakura, Kakashi, Madara, and Minato)all of whom have worse intelligence than Itachi.

Obito only got to win their little battle of hide and seek because he had a group of mercinaries behind his back, including zetsu.

I don't have an argument really other than my interpretation of the manga, but Itachi's the only one Obito hid from.
 

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Kamui is severely overrated.
 

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Exactly.

There is literally nothing in itachi's arsenal that would put him at Ms obito's level. Even tsukuyomi is debateable as Obito has proven multiple times that his genjutsu is on par with itachi's himself. He could easily break it same way sasuke did with 3 tomoes.

Kamui is too haxxed.
 

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Exactly.

There is literally nothing in itachi's arsenal that would put him at Ms obito's level. Even tsukuyomi is debateable as Obito has proven multiple times that his genjutsu is on par with itachi's himself. He could easily break it same way sasuke did with 3 tomoes.

Kamui is too haxxed.

Kakashi broke obito's genjutsu

Kakashi trapped inside itachi's genjutsu
 

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The genjutsu used on Kakashi most probably wasn't near the level he is capable of. He controlled a perfect jinchuuriki so that should be enough to suggest he is one of the most proficient genjutsu users in the manga

also Itachi had to resort to tsukuyomi to subdue Kakashi. There isn't much suggesting Itachi's 3t is any better than Obito's. 3t is irrelevant anyway in this matchup..
 
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The genjutsu used on Kakashi most probably wasn't near the level he is capable of. He controlled a perfect jinchuuriki so that should be enough to suggest he is one of the most proficient genjutsu users in the manga

also Itachi had to resort to tsukuyomi to subdue Kakashi. There isn't much suggesting Itachi's 3t is any better than Obito's. 3t is irrelevant anyway in this matchup..

Don't forget obito doesn't need ms for kamui
 

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Itachi has his crow with Shisui's eye. Kotoamatsukami > Kamui
 

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That only works if Naruto is present on the battlefield.

That only applies if this theoretical battle between Itachi and Obito occurs after Itachi gave Naruto his crow.
 

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By feats, Obito >> Itachi. The difference is quite huge, in fact
 

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Feats AND portrayal put Obito above Itachi. I thought this was obvious...........
 

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In the NV, Obito would also be able to use Izanagi several times thanks to his lab.
 

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That'd work in the VS section, but not in the actual NV.

If Itachi uses that crow, Obito might as well be fighting against both Itachi and Shisui. So the crow doesn't count. That crow is different from summonings, as it contains full power of another ninja

If the crow is restricted, Obito should win without much effort
 

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If Itachi uses that crow, Obito might as well be fighting against both Itachi and Shisui. So the crow doesn't count. That crow is different from summonings, as it contains full power of another ninja

If the crow is restricted, Obito should win without much effort
It's not that, it's that Itachi wouldn't use it in any case. In life he was saving Shisui's eye in case Sasuke ever decided to destroy Konoha.
 
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