Sasuke still has to move post teleportation, he still has to act unless the opponent is already in motion. How slow do you think intangibility is? We’ve seen obito do it all the time at numerous speeds, against multiple opponents, and even during surprise attacks
It's barely fast enough to react to a Truth Seeker Orb. Obito almost got caught by one when Madara launched it to catch him/Kakashi even when combing the powers (synchronising the eyes). Sasuke's speed is at least x10 faster than that, especially since that Madara hadn't perfected the mode. I think he would fail at maintaining equal ground with just Sasuke's generic speed.
He doesn’t need to be at equal ground, obito doesn’t even have to be on sasukes level. Sasuke HAS to act post ameno unless the opponent he’s fighting, or the object he’s switching, is in motion. We’ve seen this, multiple times. Ameno itself is instant, what comes after is not. People act like intangibility has never activated at the last moment. No one said kamui is the perfect all time counter to sasukes ameno, but having it, along with the precog that comes with the sharingan, would sure be one of the better counters if not best, for something like ameno. The ability to make an attack phase through your body at a whim seems useful against someone that would be teleporting around attacking you. You guys act as if ameno is any diff than any other s/t other than the fact that he can switch things, and uses his eye instead of seals
I'm not entirely disagreeing, but we need to look at the facts. Maybe if Ameno was used by someone else (slower than Sasuke), maybe we could give Kamui this hype, but the odds stack against Obito looking at the fact Sasuke was slapping RSM Naruto a while ago who could react to Kaguya who's fast (can I swear here) as shit. The Truth Seeker Orbs markedly draw the difference in speed between Obito's Kamui and Sasuke's Ameno, but I choose to digress. But you have a point: there's no movement on Obito's part while Sasuke is a moving member that which can be tracked through the Sharingan and instantly reacted to with no movement at all from Obito other than an electrical impulse in the brain for Kamui's trigger. Though I doubt, seeing how fast Ameno is, and hard to plant your mind in, or figuring out before it may be too late, that Kamui really cancels it out that easily. It is mostly down to the user, and seeing the many uses of Ameno, like teleporting fast-moving objects in milliseconds before even a god like Momoshiki can tell what's going on, it becomes meaningless that Kamui just requires a thought for its activation, because firstly, you need to be aware that there's danger before you can activate a technique. Unless Obito would be activating Kamui any moment he perceives a slight movement of a muscle in Sasuke's body or just the falling of a tree leaf, at which point he's reacting through paranoia than really reacting.
I think obito had a good showing with kamui as far being surprised, we can see his fights with konan, minato,(to a lesser extent, but still taking on 2 at once) fuu and Torune. Hell the closest thing we can compare to ameno without another s/t would be obito vs gai, kakashi, and kcm naruto(only cause nardos speed is compared to ftg). It took at least 2 to trip him up. That being said, this is sasuke. I don’t think kamui can counter ameno’s attacks for long, or that the strategy itself would last long against sasuke, but in the nv, where counters to such attacks are far and few, kamuis up there. I’d rank it higher than ftg as far as how useful it would be against something like ameno.
lol yea it would be really unbalanced if sasuke was able to swap charka/jutsu with anything else...like cmon.... he cant do that.....right? cuz thats just insane but then agian madara was able to create clones in a purgatory realm, why wont a rinnigan ability be able to defile logic . i means sasuke ability is to swap two objects... that can be a wide or shallow explanation. in the sense maybe his ability can swap anything his eyes can see and i mean everything since his eyes can see objects and charka.
That was seriously bad timing. He made a thread downplaying it right before episode came out which completely shut him down.
He teleported both Madara and Kaguya between himself and Naruto. Before that he just teleported his sword in front of Madara. He can teleport ANYTHING within his range.
Susbsitute is just the metaphorical title.You leave behind something as you go. Sasuke literally teleports (instantly mind you)and actually swaps places with an object
