Alien Invaders: The Byakugan Aliens FC
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Toneri will make contact eventually without a doubt. If he knows so much, there's no way he won't be helping out the Earth.
No, it was Orochimaru who sent Mitsuki. But Mitsuki is likely a clone of Toneri.
Idk about the third Ootsutsuki. Jogan might be Bolt's eye's name or it might be another monster like the Nue.
Yes, likely, since Kinshiki came to Momoshiki after checking out Earth's dimension. With that Kamui ability no less.
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You know, even though I hate to admit it, I doubt the Sharingan is out for the count. Aside from Salad, who will likely get an S/T MS power, and the Shin's, who already have an S/T MS power, I am certain we will see Sharingan-wielding Ootsutsukis akin to Kaguya w/ her third eye, since they eat fruits that grant Sharingan. I hope I am wrong, but it will likely happen.
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So now Kinishiki was also able to use S/T with his byakugan?? It's much like Boruto ability for kamui and this was all referenced from a filler back when Hizashi ripped into the vortex.
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Sometimes I think Orochimaru somehow ended up meeting with Toneri during/within/along the events of The Last.
What I want to know is how Momo had some sort of Purple Rinnegan. It was prettily established that Hagoromo had that first. With the current info bomb we got about the Ootsutsuki rules and Kaguya breaking them, I bet we will be treated to a new technicality that encompasses the San Dojutsu.
What I want to know is how Momo had some sort of Purple Rinnegan. It was prettily established that Hagoromo had that first. With the current info bomb we got about the Ootsutsuki rules and Kaguya breaking them, I bet we will be treated to a new technicality that encompasses the San Dojutsu.
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I don't think it was Byakugan. Might be, but it would be exclusive to their Byakugan. Or Kinshiki might have the same eyes as Bolt. All Ootsutsuki might have it and is how they jump dimensions.
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Honestly, everytime I think of how this series is revolving around Byakugan aliens, the more I'm pissed Neji had to go. Could you imagine just how relevant he would be in a series like this? ...sigh... He should have been Bolt's teacher instead of Sasuke
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Killing off Neji was completely random and out of place which cements absolutely nothing to the story beside "Boruto existent"
Neji was completely wasted by the washed up Uchiha plot and it drives me nut seeing how the Ootsutsuki was first brought up and further expand the byakugan plot given more significance to the Hyuga. I cant help but thinking that Neji could've played a huge role and entirely be something different but instead they brushed him off because his potential is too hax smh
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Yeah, the whole ''Naruto in despair" thing was already done in Pain arc and not to mention it was forced since Naruto barely talked with Neji.
The worst part about Naruto and Neji not being close is that it would make so much more sense since Naruto would be marrying Hinata so him and Neji being like brothers would have been so befitting, far more than with Sasuke.
At this point, the best we can hope for Neji is
>Revealing that the Caged Bird seal nerfs the user by 50% (which would prove how amazing Neji is)
>Flashback arc of 10 eps like Kishi said he would do.
>Edo Neji fight
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I really hope we get to see Neji. I am gonna be forever salty about his death.
Anyways I wonder what kind of Powers the main branch of ootsutsuki holds.
I was also wondering what happens to the eyes of main branch member of Hyuga. Don't they get stolen? How does the Hyuga clan protect it?
Also if the members of main branch are sent back to moon or the ootsutsuki clan when they are about to die or they reach their full potential.
Anyways I wonder what kind of Powers the main branch of ootsutsuki holds.
I was also wondering what happens to the eyes of main branch member of Hyuga. Don't they get stolen? How does the Hyuga clan protect it?
Also if the members of main branch are sent back to moon or the ootsutsuki clan when they are about to die or they reach their full potential.
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I agree. I think he'd be Boruto's teacher at best. But in terms of genetic relevance, I'd guess he'll take the back seat... I'm not downplaying him. It is just that someone like Neji shouldn't be given that kind of development.
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He said in an interview if Bolt "ever got a manga" he wanted to focus on Neji a bit since Bolt is named after him. Considering Kishi alsos aid he wanted Toneri in the Bolt movie, but was denied by his editor, but Toneri shows up in the anime, Kishi seems to be doing whatever he wants, so it's a matter of time.
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My Hinata > Sakura thread copy pasted, since it got deleted.
Argument #1: Sakura’s Earthquake Punch can kill Hinata.
Argument #2: The flying debris will hurt Hinata.
Argument #3: Yin Seal can open Chakra Points.
Argument #4: Sakura reacted Kaguya’s Arm, her reflexes are superior.
Argument #5: Sakura dodged the Wooden Spike.
Argument #6: The Hop SFX is pointing at Sakura, meaning she jumped on her own and Kakashi grabbed her.
Argument # 7: Sakura can heal from Hinata’s attacks.
Argument #8: How does Hinata deal with Sakura’s superior foot speed?
Argument #9: Hinata got hit by one of the puppets.
Argument #10: The Puppets weren’t fighting with intention to kill Hinata, while they were fighting with intention to kill Hiashi.
Argument #11: Hinata may have gotten Rikudo Chakra, but she no longer has it.
Argument #12: Hinata has no Speed Feats herself.
Argument #13: Well, she was never able to use it properly. It gives no enhancements to her powers.
Argument #14: Okay, so it boosts her power, speed, and stamina, but it’s not known by how much, so it can’t be measured.
Argument #15: Hinata can’t fly, That was just special effects.
Argument #16: Naruto was helping her fly.
Argument #17: Sasuke and Kakashi weren’t flying.
Argument #18: Hinata’s Taijutsu wouldn't overwhelm Sakura’s.
64 Palms is a true testament to Hinata’s amazing taijutsu prowess.
Notice what Kakashi says. REGARDLESS of having penetrative vision, to be able to hit the Chakra Points in the heat of battle against non-static opponents is something this man finds amazing. And this is Kakashi simply speaking of the Gentle Fist itself, not even the 64 Palms, a combo attack that pushes the Gentle Fist to its limit.
With 64 Palms, Hinata needs to react, aim, and move fast enough to align the tiny chakra points at the edge of her fingers which are as small as the tip of a needle with the various equally tiny chakra points on an opponents body 64 times, all while maneuvering around in the heat of battle in a manner and speed so as to prevent her opponent from escaping her combo attack.
Then there is their short taijutsu feats in The Last.
With Sakura, it’s nothing impressive. She fights off a bunch of maiden puppets that were designed for service rather than combat, and her taijutsu itself doesn’t come off as that impressive when noticing that all the maiden puppets just fly towards her with no coherence or technique.
With Hinata, she fights against the same puppets that gave Hiashi trouble, as I went into detail above. During the fight, with no Byakugan abilities and pure taijutsu, she redirects the momentum of one of the high-speed puppets, sending it flying, (this not shown in the GIF) dodges an attack from above before proceeding to double kick two other puppets and black flips off of one of them into the air. Landing, she then, without even seeing it, dodges a puppet who attacks her from behind, and finally proceeds to take on two other puppets before being stopped by Toneri.
Sakura’s agility is definitely there, but not only is Hinata’s taijutsu still faster (64 Palms), but its not the same as what Hinata displayed, actually fighting puppets made for combat, same ones who fought off Naruto and Hiashi, wherein she also displayed great skill, redirecting momentum, back flipping off opponents, incorporating kicks into the Gentle Fist style, which doesn’t use kicks, dodging an attack from behind without even using Byakugan, If Hinata can avoid a point-blank assault from behind without using the Byakugan’s 360 vision and precognition when she’s aware of it, she’s not falling prey to a linear, predictable punch from Sakura.
Argument #19: Sakura can maneuver her way out of 64 Palms.
Argument #20: Sakura took down Shin.
Argument #21: Sakura was praised by Hashirama, Sasori, and Sasuke.
Argument #22: Sakura is a Jonin and Hinata is a Chunnin.
This attack is not as sure-fire as people want to believe. We saw that Sakura first needs to build momentum by jumping super high and then falling down to punch the ground.
Last I recall, Ninjas can only increase the height of their jumps with Chakra, while they simply end up falling at normal, real-life speed. Shown above, Naruto was left completely defenseless when falling, needing to be saved by Sasuke. As is the case, this would give Hinata ample enough time to intercept Sakura while she is falling down and blast her with an Air Palm in mid-air, ending the momentum she’d need to create this technique and damaging her organs.
Not only that, but plenty, PLENTY of Juubi Clones survived the attack, nearly killing Sakura due to her not being able to see through the dust cloud that followed. Considering Hinata survived a point-black Almighty Push then got stabbed, yet STILL managed to remain conscious for some time, a few rocks and stones will not be enough to knock her out completely.
Hinata also has the alternative option of simply avoiding the attack like any sane ninja would by jumping. Here, we see the Juubi fire its Juubi Bomb at Naruto, Bee, Gai and Kakashi. We see that Naruto is front-center, Kakasho/Gai behind and to his right, and Bee behind to his left, and all are facing towards the Juubi.
The dust cloud made as a result of the attack is thus to the right of Naruto, evidenced by Gai and Kakashi’s presence.
Meaning here, the red is Naruto, the blue is Kakashi/Gai, and the yellow is Bee.
And what we see next is Hinata and a million other Shinobi falling from the sky, despite not being on panel when we got the above zoom-out shot. Meaning they were at least some 50 m up high at that point. Then there’s the fact that Ino took control of the Juubi for some 2 seconds, so that’s likely an addition 10 m or so considering they’d still be falling while she was doing so. Meaning her mountain crushing attack can be avoided by literally ANYONE who is capable of jumping.
Take into consideration her Byakugan, which will allow her to see through the dust cloud, and Sakura will only be putting herself in a bad situation with this technique as it does nothing but work to Hinata’s advantage.
There’s also the fact that Hinata can fly with her Rikudo Chakra, but we will get to that later.
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Last I recall, Ninjas can only increase the height of their jumps with Chakra, while they simply end up falling at normal, real-life speed. Shown above, Naruto was left completely defenseless when falling, needing to be saved by Sasuke. As is the case, this would give Hinata ample enough time to intercept Sakura while she is falling down and blast her with an Air Palm in mid-air, ending the momentum she’d need to create this technique and damaging her organs.
Not only that, but plenty, PLENTY of Juubi Clones survived the attack, nearly killing Sakura due to her not being able to see through the dust cloud that followed. Considering Hinata survived a point-black Almighty Push then got stabbed, yet STILL managed to remain conscious for some time, a few rocks and stones will not be enough to knock her out completely.
Hinata also has the alternative option of simply avoiding the attack like any sane ninja would by jumping. Here, we see the Juubi fire its Juubi Bomb at Naruto, Bee, Gai and Kakashi. We see that Naruto is front-center, Kakasho/Gai behind and to his right, and Bee behind to his left, and all are facing towards the Juubi.
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The dust cloud made as a result of the attack is thus to the right of Naruto, evidenced by Gai and Kakashi’s presence.
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Meaning here, the red is Naruto, the blue is Kakashi/Gai, and the yellow is Bee.
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And what we see next is Hinata and a million other Shinobi falling from the sky, despite not being on panel when we got the above zoom-out shot. Meaning they were at least some 50 m up high at that point. Then there’s the fact that Ino took control of the Juubi for some 2 seconds, so that’s likely an addition 10 m or so considering they’d still be falling while she was doing so. Meaning her mountain crushing attack can be avoided by literally ANYONE who is capable of jumping.
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Take into consideration her Byakugan, which will allow her to see through the dust cloud, and Sakura will only be putting herself in a bad situation with this technique as it does nothing but work to Hinata’s advantage.
There’s also the fact that Hinata can fly with her Rikudo Chakra, but we will get to that later.
Argument #2: The flying debris will hurt Hinata.
We’ve never actually seen such things be any sort of problem to anyone. No scan shows any of the debris from Sakura’s punches being powerful enough to even graze or knock out an opponent, let alone kill them.
In fact, I’d argue that Sakura puts herself more at risk than with Hinata. We saw her get knocked out just by hitting her head against a a wooden bridge, yet Hinata takes a point blank Almighty Push which causes the solid earth beneath her to blast upwards, yet she’s still conscious. If anyone is in a threat of getting knocked out by flying rocks, its Sakura.
In fact, I’d argue that Sakura puts herself more at risk than with Hinata. We saw her get knocked out just by hitting her head against a a wooden bridge, yet Hinata takes a point blank Almighty Push which causes the solid earth beneath her to blast upwards, yet she’s still conscious. If anyone is in a threat of getting knocked out by flying rocks, its Sakura.
Argument #3: Yin Seal can open Chakra Points.
Then there’s the question of whether or not the Yin Seal can actually undo chakra points being blocked, and given how we’ve never seen the Yin Seal do this, I’m not inclined to believe it can, especially with plenty of evidence against it.
But let’s say Sakura CAN unblock chakra points, for arguments sake, I still find this an irrelevant point. The whole method to the 64 Palms is that, once the user lands one hit, they attack with such rapid jabs that they manage to land 64 precise strikes within a second or 2. So once Hinata has blocked 64 of her points, she’ll be fatigued.
One has to remember that during the Chunnin Exams, Neji was not fighting with the intent to kill Naruto, as he was constantly telling him to forfeit (much like how he did with Hinata). If Neji was fighting with the intent to kill Naruto, he would have finished him off right after he used the 64 palms on him, as Naruto still needed actual time to form the hand seals and have Nine Tails Chakra start flowing through his body to release the points, which was only made possible by Neji going easy on him.
Assuming a blood lusted battle, Hinata would be far more wary with Sakura and not give her an opportunity to undo the points unlike how Neji did with Naruto out of ignorance. The events of the Chunnin Exams will not repeat with Hinata. She WON’T wait around like Neji did with Naruto and allow Sakura time to release her Yin Seal, and with 64 of her points blocked, she won’t be able to use chakra to make some distance between them, she won’t be able to run away or smash the ground to buy time, so Hinata can just inject Chakra into her brain while she’s momentarily had her Chakra restricted and finish her off.
But the truth is, there is far more evidence to suggest Yin Seal would be unable to undo the Chakra Points being blocked.
Not only is Naruto directing TALKING to Kurama to give him power, but Kurama also refers to this, saying that Naruto always came to him whenever something came up he couldn’t handle. It likely isn’t the Bijuu Chakra that did it, since we see Hinata later use the 64 Palms on a Juubi Clone, who would naturally have Bijuu Chakra, so is is clear that instead its because Kurama is his own being that he was able to help Naruto, and not the TYPE of Chakra. And the Yin Seal does not house a separate, conscious being like Kurama. I’d say this is more or less a similar case to how Bijuus can help their hosts break out of Genjutsu.
But let’s say Sakura CAN unblock chakra points, for arguments sake, I still find this an irrelevant point. The whole method to the 64 Palms is that, once the user lands one hit, they attack with such rapid jabs that they manage to land 64 precise strikes within a second or 2. So once Hinata has blocked 64 of her points, she’ll be fatigued.
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One has to remember that during the Chunnin Exams, Neji was not fighting with the intent to kill Naruto, as he was constantly telling him to forfeit (much like how he did with Hinata). If Neji was fighting with the intent to kill Naruto, he would have finished him off right after he used the 64 palms on him, as Naruto still needed actual time to form the hand seals and have Nine Tails Chakra start flowing through his body to release the points, which was only made possible by Neji going easy on him.
Assuming a blood lusted battle, Hinata would be far more wary with Sakura and not give her an opportunity to undo the points unlike how Neji did with Naruto out of ignorance. The events of the Chunnin Exams will not repeat with Hinata. She WON’T wait around like Neji did with Naruto and allow Sakura time to release her Yin Seal, and with 64 of her points blocked, she won’t be able to use chakra to make some distance between them, she won’t be able to run away or smash the ground to buy time, so Hinata can just inject Chakra into her brain while she’s momentarily had her Chakra restricted and finish her off.
But the truth is, there is far more evidence to suggest Yin Seal would be unable to undo the Chakra Points being blocked.
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Not only is Naruto directing TALKING to Kurama to give him power, but Kurama also refers to this, saying that Naruto always came to him whenever something came up he couldn’t handle. It likely isn’t the Bijuu Chakra that did it, since we see Hinata later use the 64 Palms on a Juubi Clone, who would naturally have Bijuu Chakra, so is is clear that instead its because Kurama is his own being that he was able to help Naruto, and not the TYPE of Chakra. And the Yin Seal does not house a separate, conscious being like Kurama. I’d say this is more or less a similar case to how Bijuus can help their hosts break out of Genjutsu.
Argument #4: Sakura reacted Kaguya’s Arm, her reflexes are superior.
Dodging something massive from multiple meters away isn’t the same as dodging multiple small strikes (64 Palms) at point blank, the two can’t be compared. In a hand to hand fight, the former would not be relevant at all. A person dodging a car wouldn’t prove that that their reaction to close-range punches in a fist fight would be better.
As I said above, the arm that attacked Sakura is many meters away. When one of Naruto’s clones is hit by it, we can see that he is roughly the same size as the finger’s first part, and considering that scale, it is very VERY apparent that Sakura is at least some 30 m away from the hand when it moves towards her, yet even with such a great distance, she barely manages to react instead needing to be saved.
One shouldn’t bank on this Kaguya Chakra Arm argument anyways. May I remind you that Kyuubi got blitzed by Form 1 Juubi, saying that it was super fast. Yet Hinata was able to react to the Form 2 Juubi’s arms just fine.
What does this tell us? It re-enforces what I said above; that reacting to an attack from a distance is not the same as reacting to a close-ranged barrage of 64 strikes. Of course, the Form 2 Juubi is not as strong as The 10 Tailed Rabbit Form, but that is not relevant, since I am not comparing power levels, and just the fact that dodging distant attacks=/= dodging point blank attacks. And before anyone pipes in, no Kyuubi Cloaks don’t enhance reflexes, only power.
Of course, the fact that Sakura was able to react to this means Hinata could as well. Why do I say this? Simply put, we saw in 614 that Hinata > Sakura in reflexes, meaning that at the time of the 4th World War, Hinata is superior. There’s no reason to believe Hinata, who showed better reflexes than Sakura in the SAME situation, would be unable to do so against this attack.
Also notice that this is Hinata WITHOUT her Byakugan activated, yet she’s still superior to Sakura in reflexes.
Hinata > Wooden Spike
Wooden Spike > Sakura
Sakura > Juubi Hand
Therefore, Hinata w/ Byakugan > Hinata > Wooden Spike > Sakura > Juubi hand. It’s as simple as that.
Now, I will admit that based on this, Sakura is in fact FASTER IN FOOT SPEED than Hinata, however, this isn’t an issue, as I will counter this later.
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As I said above, the arm that attacked Sakura is many meters away. When one of Naruto’s clones is hit by it, we can see that he is roughly the same size as the finger’s first part, and considering that scale, it is very VERY apparent that Sakura is at least some 30 m away from the hand when it moves towards her, yet even with such a great distance, she barely manages to react instead needing to be saved.
One shouldn’t bank on this Kaguya Chakra Arm argument anyways. May I remind you that Kyuubi got blitzed by Form 1 Juubi, saying that it was super fast. Yet Hinata was able to react to the Form 2 Juubi’s arms just fine.
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What does this tell us? It re-enforces what I said above; that reacting to an attack from a distance is not the same as reacting to a close-ranged barrage of 64 strikes. Of course, the Form 2 Juubi is not as strong as The 10 Tailed Rabbit Form, but that is not relevant, since I am not comparing power levels, and just the fact that dodging distant attacks=/= dodging point blank attacks. And before anyone pipes in, no Kyuubi Cloaks don’t enhance reflexes, only power.
Of course, the fact that Sakura was able to react to this means Hinata could as well. Why do I say this? Simply put, we saw in 614 that Hinata > Sakura in reflexes, meaning that at the time of the 4th World War, Hinata is superior. There’s no reason to believe Hinata, who showed better reflexes than Sakura in the SAME situation, would be unable to do so against this attack.
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Also notice that this is Hinata WITHOUT her Byakugan activated, yet she’s still superior to Sakura in reflexes.
Hinata > Wooden Spike
Wooden Spike > Sakura
Sakura > Juubi Hand
Therefore, Hinata w/ Byakugan > Hinata > Wooden Spike > Sakura > Juubi hand. It’s as simple as that.
Now, I will admit that based on this, Sakura is in fact FASTER IN FOOT SPEED than Hinata, however, this isn’t an issue, as I will counter this later.
Argument #5: Sakura dodged the Wooden Spike.
Sakura clearly didn’t, and this is evident by Kakashi’s hand being fully wrapped around her body, with his hand placed on her arm. Meaning Kakashi is the one dragging Sakura’s body away from the spike.
Argument #6: The Hop SFX is pointing at Sakura, meaning she jumped on her own and Kakashi grabbed her.
No. First off, the bubble isn’t even pointing at Sakura, it’s leaning off to the left of her, and there is a perfect reason for that. Second, what logic is there for Kakashi to grab Sakura for no reason? Did Kakashi’s pervy instincts kick in and he wanted tp cup a feel? No!! Of course he has his hand there because he is saving her.
SFX bubbles point in the direction of where the SOUND is coming from, they do not point to the direction of the PERSON making the sound. As shown below, the Klak and Tak SFX point to the direction where Hinata and Naruto tripped.
As such, it makes perfect sense why the Hop SFX is pointing towards Sakura’s left side and not Sakura and Kakashi themselves, because that is where the sound is coming from.
So, to repeat, Hinata even without her Byakugan is superior to Sakura in reflexes. Not surprising anyways, considering she knows 64 Palms, but we will get to that later.
SFX bubbles point in the direction of where the SOUND is coming from, they do not point to the direction of the PERSON making the sound. As shown below, the Klak and Tak SFX point to the direction where Hinata and Naruto tripped.
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As such, it makes perfect sense why the Hop SFX is pointing towards Sakura’s left side and not Sakura and Kakashi themselves, because that is where the sound is coming from.
So, to repeat, Hinata even without her Byakugan is superior to Sakura in reflexes. Not surprising anyways, considering she knows 64 Palms, but we will get to that later.
Argument # 7: Sakura can heal from Hinata’s attacks.
True. Assuming somehow, by sheer dumb luck, despite her superior taijutsu and reflexes, Hinata is unable to close Sakura’s Chakra Points, Sakura can heal from any injuries inflicted on her.
However, the Yin Seal only heals physical damage, it doesn’t deal with blunt force. And as we’ve seen, Sakura can’t handle blunt force and has never shown durability feats after she got knocked out by a mere bridge to suggest anything has changed. So any blunt force aimed and impacting her head will knock her out cold.
Air Palm is blunt force combined with the precision of Byakugan, so Hinata’s gonna be able to land the hit anywhere she wants considering she aimed Ino’s Mind Transfer PERFECTLY to Obito from many, many, many meters away, pulling off something Hiashi failed to do.
She also has enough precision to use 64 Palms. If she can aim and align the needle-tip tiny Chakra Points on her fingers at needle-tip tiny points on non-static opponents all while factoring in recoil and moving around to prevent the opponent from escaping her combo attack, aiming at a massive forehead will be no problem.
And I know people will say Hinata fumbled with 64 Palms. But, one, that doesn’t change the precision and speed feats she displayed. Two, she still managed to complete it, and considering that 64 Palms is a combo attack that relies on the user’s speed to be used successfully, it shows how irrelevant the mistake was. And finally, Three, The Last Databook states that she in fact mastered 64 Palms during that exact moment.
Caption of panel where Hinata uses 8 Trigrams 64 Palms: The secret Gentle Fist technique “8 Trigrams 64 Palms.” She masters it with the courage to step out beyond her limits.
Hinata’s Air Palm is on par or surpasses Neji’s due to the two using Air Wall Palm together, which would mean the speed of the attacks would need to be the same in order for the attack to even be effective. This is because, if Neji’s Air Palm was faster than Hinata’s, it would hit their target, sending it flying, while Hinata’s would miss and hit thin air. This means the speed of both techniques must be the same in order for Air Wall Palm to be pulled off properly, and this in turn also means the POWER of the Air Palms are also the same due to Air Palm’s force coming from the speed at which the compressed air travels.
Also, Hinata now has Rikudo Chakra since she received it from Hamura during The Last movie, meaning she can replicate the feat she did against the Juubi’s hand, which not only surpasses Neji’s Air Palm by ages, but it also contains far more force than what is even needed to knock out Sakura.
Her Kyuubi Air Palm sent a massive hand flying instantly. Kakashi noted that the Chakra he received from Naruto was enough to power his techniques three times over at least, and this was with such a small amount that it didn’t form any sort of cloak. This would mean the V1 Cloak Naruto handed out to the alliance was even more powerful, and given that we saw Hinata was able to use her more potent Rikudo Chakra to form a sort of cloak around her, it would mean she would easily be able to replicate her Kyuubi Air Palm with a Rikudo Air Palm with far more power.
Even without it, Hinata’s base Air Palm has enough force behind it to knock Sakura out.
Sakura was knocked out not by 4 Tails Naruto’s Chakra explosion
Not by the resulting shockwave.
Not by the resulting flying body of Kabuto.
Not by the resulting head to butt collision.
But merely hitting her petty head against a simple bridge.
Hinata’s Air Palm, which is on par with Neji’s as shown by their Wall Palm attack, is powerful enough in base to knock away Kisame, who is one of the heaviest human characters in the series. So even ignoring Rikudo Chakra, Hinata’s normal Air Palm has enough fire power to put Sakura into a concussion, whereupon Hinata can proceed to take her time in turning Sakura’s body to pink mush.
There’s also this quote form the 4th Databook:
Unless vital body parts are affected or very deep wounds are present, she can restore her body back to the state of absolute ‘uninjuredness’.
Meaning deep wounds and serious damage become very difficult to heal or at least take some time to recover from, and such damage would surely weaken Sakura’s performance bit by bit in a battle and hinder her performance.
Sakura is not that great at recovering from injuries anyways, as she fell to her knees and was panting simply by having two small knives pierce her arm, even after the knives were removed and she had healed herself. Sasuke even had to call out to Salad to take care of the Mini-Juubi thing instead of Sakura, who, in the same panel, is on her knees.
Considering Neji with Gentle Fist was able to damage Kidomaru to the point he lost his balance and couldn’t stand.
Considering Hinata can power her Gentle Fist through Twin Lion Fists and FURTHER through her Rikudo Chakra.
Considering Hinata’s Gentle Fist was powerful enough in base alone to leave visible exterior marks on the Juubi Clone’s body when Gentle Fist doesn’t even deal with exterior damage. And keep in mind the Juubi Clones are highly durable, at least more so than a normal human like Sakura.
Hinata’s Crumbling Attack would be more than enough to take out Sakura, as even if she does heal from the damage, she would not be able to heal at a rapid enough rate to counter the damage she’d be taking in, and would have her performance and combat abilities hindered by the physical damage done, just like with Shin. Except with Shin, it was two knives that barely stabbed her, while with Hinata, it’s deep damage to her inner organs.
However, the Yin Seal only heals physical damage, it doesn’t deal with blunt force. And as we’ve seen, Sakura can’t handle blunt force and has never shown durability feats after she got knocked out by a mere bridge to suggest anything has changed. So any blunt force aimed and impacting her head will knock her out cold.
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Air Palm is blunt force combined with the precision of Byakugan, so Hinata’s gonna be able to land the hit anywhere she wants considering she aimed Ino’s Mind Transfer PERFECTLY to Obito from many, many, many meters away, pulling off something Hiashi failed to do.
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She also has enough precision to use 64 Palms. If she can aim and align the needle-tip tiny Chakra Points on her fingers at needle-tip tiny points on non-static opponents all while factoring in recoil and moving around to prevent the opponent from escaping her combo attack, aiming at a massive forehead will be no problem.
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And I know people will say Hinata fumbled with 64 Palms. But, one, that doesn’t change the precision and speed feats she displayed. Two, she still managed to complete it, and considering that 64 Palms is a combo attack that relies on the user’s speed to be used successfully, it shows how irrelevant the mistake was. And finally, Three, The Last Databook states that she in fact mastered 64 Palms during that exact moment.
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Caption of panel where Hinata uses 8 Trigrams 64 Palms: The secret Gentle Fist technique “8 Trigrams 64 Palms.” She masters it with the courage to step out beyond her limits.
Hinata’s Air Palm is on par or surpasses Neji’s due to the two using Air Wall Palm together, which would mean the speed of the attacks would need to be the same in order for the attack to even be effective. This is because, if Neji’s Air Palm was faster than Hinata’s, it would hit their target, sending it flying, while Hinata’s would miss and hit thin air. This means the speed of both techniques must be the same in order for Air Wall Palm to be pulled off properly, and this in turn also means the POWER of the Air Palms are also the same due to Air Palm’s force coming from the speed at which the compressed air travels.
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Also, Hinata now has Rikudo Chakra since she received it from Hamura during The Last movie, meaning she can replicate the feat she did against the Juubi’s hand, which not only surpasses Neji’s Air Palm by ages, but it also contains far more force than what is even needed to knock out Sakura.
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Her Kyuubi Air Palm sent a massive hand flying instantly. Kakashi noted that the Chakra he received from Naruto was enough to power his techniques three times over at least, and this was with such a small amount that it didn’t form any sort of cloak. This would mean the V1 Cloak Naruto handed out to the alliance was even more powerful, and given that we saw Hinata was able to use her more potent Rikudo Chakra to form a sort of cloak around her, it would mean she would easily be able to replicate her Kyuubi Air Palm with a Rikudo Air Palm with far more power.
Even without it, Hinata’s base Air Palm has enough force behind it to knock Sakura out.
Sakura was knocked out not by 4 Tails Naruto’s Chakra explosion
Not by the resulting shockwave.
Not by the resulting flying body of Kabuto.
Not by the resulting head to butt collision.
But merely hitting her petty head against a simple bridge.
Hinata’s Air Palm, which is on par with Neji’s as shown by their Wall Palm attack, is powerful enough in base to knock away Kisame, who is one of the heaviest human characters in the series. So even ignoring Rikudo Chakra, Hinata’s normal Air Palm has enough fire power to put Sakura into a concussion, whereupon Hinata can proceed to take her time in turning Sakura’s body to pink mush.
There’s also this quote form the 4th Databook:
Unless vital body parts are affected or very deep wounds are present, she can restore her body back to the state of absolute ‘uninjuredness’.
Meaning deep wounds and serious damage become very difficult to heal or at least take some time to recover from, and such damage would surely weaken Sakura’s performance bit by bit in a battle and hinder her performance.
Sakura is not that great at recovering from injuries anyways, as she fell to her knees and was panting simply by having two small knives pierce her arm, even after the knives were removed and she had healed herself. Sasuke even had to call out to Salad to take care of the Mini-Juubi thing instead of Sakura, who, in the same panel, is on her knees.
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Considering Neji with Gentle Fist was able to damage Kidomaru to the point he lost his balance and couldn’t stand.
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Considering Hinata can power her Gentle Fist through Twin Lion Fists and FURTHER through her Rikudo Chakra.
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Considering Hinata’s Gentle Fist was powerful enough in base alone to leave visible exterior marks on the Juubi Clone’s body when Gentle Fist doesn’t even deal with exterior damage. And keep in mind the Juubi Clones are highly durable, at least more so than a normal human like Sakura.
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Hinata’s Crumbling Attack would be more than enough to take out Sakura, as even if she does heal from the damage, she would not be able to heal at a rapid enough rate to counter the damage she’d be taking in, and would have her performance and combat abilities hindered by the physical damage done, just like with Shin. Except with Shin, it was two knives that barely stabbed her, while with Hinata, it’s deep damage to her inner organs.
Argument #8: How does Hinata deal with Sakura’s superior foot speed?
Sakura is faster than Hinata based on feats, I will admit to that, but this doesn’t mean she will win. I will make this abundantly clear.
First, let’s look at these two moments.
Sasuke and Lee both note that if the opponent runs at high speeds in a straight line, this is very easy to counter for someone with eyes that can foresee movements, and as explained below, Byakugan, like Sharingan, can do this.
And Sakura’s speed feat of running away from Kaguya’s hand? She was only running in a straight line, much like Sasuke with Chidori and Bee with Lariat. In other words, there is no dynamic or maneuvering in regards to her running motions, so much like Sasuke with Bee, Hinata will have no trouble avoiding her speed, considering Hinata’s own reflexes alone are above Sakura’s, and add on top her Byakugan and that just makes things over kill
A further testament to Hinata’s ability to deal with fast opponents is seen in The Last.
In The Last, after refusing Toneri’s offer, Hiashi attempts to run away from Toneri as his body guards fend them off. Even then however, these combat puppets manage to catch up to and pin down Hiashi, meaning these puppets are superior in speed to Hiashi, who is superior in speed to Sakura.
And yet, we later see Hinata fighting these exact same puppets with ease without the aid of her Byakugan and without harnessing any of her Rikudo Chakra. This means, Hinata is more than capable, EVEN IN BASE, with dealing with opponents faster in speed than her.
Tenseigan Puppets > Hiashi > Sakura > Hinata in speed.
In the end, this means Hinata can deal with opponents faster than her (Tenseigan Puppets/Sakura) just fine even without her Byakugan’s enhancements in reflexes and foreseeing powers.
First, let’s look at these two moments.
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Sasuke and Lee both note that if the opponent runs at high speeds in a straight line, this is very easy to counter for someone with eyes that can foresee movements, and as explained below, Byakugan, like Sharingan, can do this.
And Sakura’s speed feat of running away from Kaguya’s hand? She was only running in a straight line, much like Sasuke with Chidori and Bee with Lariat. In other words, there is no dynamic or maneuvering in regards to her running motions, so much like Sasuke with Bee, Hinata will have no trouble avoiding her speed, considering Hinata’s own reflexes alone are above Sakura’s, and add on top her Byakugan and that just makes things over kill
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A further testament to Hinata’s ability to deal with fast opponents is seen in The Last.
In The Last, after refusing Toneri’s offer, Hiashi attempts to run away from Toneri as his body guards fend them off. Even then however, these combat puppets manage to catch up to and pin down Hiashi, meaning these puppets are superior in speed to Hiashi, who is superior in speed to Sakura.
And yet, we later see Hinata fighting these exact same puppets with ease without the aid of her Byakugan and without harnessing any of her Rikudo Chakra. This means, Hinata is more than capable, EVEN IN BASE, with dealing with opponents faster in speed than her.
Tenseigan Puppets > Hiashi > Sakura > Hinata in speed.
In the end, this means Hinata can deal with opponents faster than her (Tenseigan Puppets/Sakura) just fine even without her Byakugan’s enhancements in reflexes and foreseeing powers.
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Argument #9: Hinata got hit by one of the puppets.
Failing to dodge an attack you barely got a glimpse of isn’t a testament to how that would play out when fighting face to face. Hidan nearly had his neck cut off by Shikamaru due to him sneak-attacking Hidan. Yet Hidan was pressuring 3T Kakashi.
Same with the case with Omoi and Sakura. Omoi hit Sakura who was focused on Karui and didn’t have her focus on Omoi, so it doesn’t mean Omoi beats Sakura, as much as I like to troll around with that statement.
Thus, Hinata being hit by that puppet doesn’t mean much when she only got a short glimpse of it and when her focus was on multiple considerably strong puppets who had previously fought Naruto and Hiashi. If Hinata had her Byakugan activated here, she would not have gotten hit by that attack.
Oh, and here’s what Shikadai says about the Byakugan.
Did Hinata have her Byakugan on? Nope! So no 360 vision, no precogntion, and barely got a glimpse of the attack? Yeah, she’d definitely be dodging that with her Byakugan on considering she dodged an attack from behind when she was actually aware of it.
Same with the case with Omoi and Sakura. Omoi hit Sakura who was focused on Karui and didn’t have her focus on Omoi, so it doesn’t mean Omoi beats Sakura, as much as I like to troll around with that statement.
Thus, Hinata being hit by that puppet doesn’t mean much when she only got a short glimpse of it and when her focus was on multiple considerably strong puppets who had previously fought Naruto and Hiashi. If Hinata had her Byakugan activated here, she would not have gotten hit by that attack.
Oh, and here’s what Shikadai says about the Byakugan.
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Did Hinata have her Byakugan on? Nope! So no 360 vision, no precogntion, and barely got a glimpse of the attack? Yeah, she’d definitely be dodging that with her Byakugan on considering she dodged an attack from behind when she was actually aware of it.
Argument #10: The Puppets weren’t fighting with intention to kill Hinata, while they were fighting with intention to kill Hiashi.
The Tenseigan Puppets were protecting the Tenseigan, which was vital to Toner’s plan, the existence of the puppets, and the existence of the moon’s environment. So there is no reason to believe they’d be holding back TOO MUCH against Hinata.
Not to mention it is conjecture to go claiming the Tenseigan Puppets were fighting with killing intent, as not only is this not confirmed, but Hiashi getting out of that ordeal alive without Toneri confirming if he was dead supports that Toneri wasn’t fighting with killing intent.
There’s also the fact that the puppets, when fighting with killing intent, use their Chakra Blasts, which they didn’t use against Hiashi until he used Rotation and got away. Meaning they initially weren’t fighting with killing intent when they chased and caught up to Hiashi, which is the only moment relevant to this discussion.
Not to mention not fighting with killing intent means avoiding lethal blows and vital organs, not decreasing one’s speed, which is the subject here.
Not to mention it is conjecture to go claiming the Tenseigan Puppets were fighting with killing intent, as not only is this not confirmed, but Hiashi getting out of that ordeal alive without Toneri confirming if he was dead supports that Toneri wasn’t fighting with killing intent.
There’s also the fact that the puppets, when fighting with killing intent, use their Chakra Blasts, which they didn’t use against Hiashi until he used Rotation and got away. Meaning they initially weren’t fighting with killing intent when they chased and caught up to Hiashi, which is the only moment relevant to this discussion.
Not to mention not fighting with killing intent means avoiding lethal blows and vital organs, not decreasing one’s speed, which is the subject here.
Argument #11: Hinata may have gotten Rikudo Chakra, but she no longer has it.
No where does it even hint at her no longer having it. The writers of the movie explicitly made it a point and went out of their way to show the Tenseigan disappear from Hanabi’s eyes so people wouldn’t go around thinking this 15 year old has moon-busting powers, yet no such thing was done with Hinata.
She received it in the same way Naruto/Sasuke did, by falling unconscious and receiving it on another plain of existence, so unless it is ever confirmed either of those two no longer have that Chakra, which likely isn’t the case considering they were still being used in the final fight, there is no reason to believe she has lost it either.
She received it in the same way Naruto/Sasuke did, by falling unconscious and receiving it on another plain of existence, so unless it is ever confirmed either of those two no longer have that Chakra, which likely isn’t the case considering they were still being used in the final fight, there is no reason to believe she has lost it either.
Argument #12: Hinata has no Speed Feats herself.
There is at least one notable speed feat for Hinata.
Here’s the infamous page of Hinata attempting to attack Deva Pain, and this is where Hinata’s speed feat lies.
However, this page will not make much sense unless I provide you with the page prior.
Now, notice how, in the upper right panel, there is not a single glimpse of Hinata behind pain, despite the fact that only after a short conversation later, she appear right behind him.
And, yet, just a few panels ago, there is absolutely no sign what so ever of Hinata making her way towards Pain in this previous panel. This shows Hinata was able to make her way across the crater’s radius during Ma’s pep talk, in only a few seconds.
Now, To understand how fast this was, Let’s look at how big the crater was to begin with.
If you look closely, you can see three shadows in the puff of smoke located in the smaller crater. This, no doubt, is Naruto and his toad summons. One of these toad summons is Gamabunta, who’s height measures at 17 m. He is the shadow located between the other two shadows, as evidenced by this panel.
So, knowing Gamabunta’s size in comparison to the crater, that should more less give everyone a sense of scale. And Hinata was able to cross half of that massive crater within a few seconds.
Here’s the infamous page of Hinata attempting to attack Deva Pain, and this is where Hinata’s speed feat lies.
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However, this page will not make much sense unless I provide you with the page prior.
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Now, notice how, in the upper right panel, there is not a single glimpse of Hinata behind pain, despite the fact that only after a short conversation later, she appear right behind him.
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And, yet, just a few panels ago, there is absolutely no sign what so ever of Hinata making her way towards Pain in this previous panel. This shows Hinata was able to make her way across the crater’s radius during Ma’s pep talk, in only a few seconds.
Now, To understand how fast this was, Let’s look at how big the crater was to begin with.
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If you look closely, you can see three shadows in the puff of smoke located in the smaller crater. This, no doubt, is Naruto and his toad summons. One of these toad summons is Gamabunta, who’s height measures at 17 m. He is the shadow located between the other two shadows, as evidenced by this panel.
So, knowing Gamabunta’s size in comparison to the crater, that should more less give everyone a sense of scale. And Hinata was able to cross half of that massive crater within a few seconds.
Argument #13: Well, she was never able to use it properly. It gives no enhancements to her powers.
Of course, one may argue that we never see Hinata actually use this Chakra for anything beyond mixing it with Twin Lion Fists and increasing her reserves, but here is where the beautiful concept of common sense kicks in.
We don’t need proof for Fugaku’s Sharingan being able to use precognition, because we know all Sharingans can do this.
We don’t need proof that Hinata’s Byakugan has a blind spot because we know all Byakugan have it.
We don’t need proof that Lee can use the Morning Peacock, because we know anyone who can use the 6th can use this.
And of course, we don’t need proof that Sakura’s Yin Seal can regrow her limbs and organs even though she’s only shown healing skin because we know Yin Seal can do these things.
Likewise, we don’t need proof to argue that Hinata’s Rikudo Chakra increased her stats, because we know for a fact that Rikudo Chakra itself will increase the stats of whoever uses it, as we’ve seen with Naruto, Sasuke, and Kakashi.
Common sense. It helps a lot.
Even if one wants to ignore this, she is still able to combine it with her attacks, meaning more power, and Hinata was shown to have higher Chakra reserves on par with Naruto’s after receiving Rikudo Chakra, meaning more speed, since more Chakra means more speed and power guarantee.
We don’t need proof for Fugaku’s Sharingan being able to use precognition, because we know all Sharingans can do this.
We don’t need proof that Hinata’s Byakugan has a blind spot because we know all Byakugan have it.
We don’t need proof that Lee can use the Morning Peacock, because we know anyone who can use the 6th can use this.
And of course, we don’t need proof that Sakura’s Yin Seal can regrow her limbs and organs even though she’s only shown healing skin because we know Yin Seal can do these things.
Likewise, we don’t need proof to argue that Hinata’s Rikudo Chakra increased her stats, because we know for a fact that Rikudo Chakra itself will increase the stats of whoever uses it, as we’ve seen with Naruto, Sasuke, and Kakashi.
Common sense. It helps a lot.
Even if one wants to ignore this, she is still able to combine it with her attacks, meaning more power, and Hinata was shown to have higher Chakra reserves on par with Naruto’s after receiving Rikudo Chakra, meaning more speed, since more Chakra means more speed and power guarantee.
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Argument #14: Okay, so it boosts her power, speed, and stamina, but it’s not known by how much, so it can’t be measured.
No, we can give a rough estimate.
Kakashi says the Chakra he got from Kurama WHICH DIDN’T EVEN FORM A CLOAK mind you, is 3 x more powerful than his own.
Add on the Bijuu Cloak Naruto gave to the alliance, which would be more potent, and then add Hinata’s Rikudo Chakra, and that’s even more potent than that.
Hinata used her own Chakra to reheal Naruto allowing him to reenter 100% KCM right after having so much of his Chakra drained that he fell on his knees, a worse case than this, where at least Naruto was still able to stand. So Hinata’s chakra saw a massive leap in quantity and quality.
Keep in mind Naruto had 100% Kurama during The Last, not 50% like in the War. So his 100% KCM > 50% Bijuu Mode. And Hinata healed that when Naruto was so low on Chakra he couldn’t maintain KCM and couldn’t even stand.
To sum up, not only is Hinata’s Rikudo Chakra more potent than Bijuu Chakra, she also received FAR MORE Chakra from Hamura than she did from Naruto. Meaning, even if one wants to deny everything else, at the VERY LEAST, she can easily replicate, if not surpass, the Air Palm she pulled off with inferior Bijuu Chakra in a lower quantity. And that alone, as explained before, would be enough to knock Sakura out.
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Kakashi says the Chakra he got from Kurama WHICH DIDN’T EVEN FORM A CLOAK mind you, is 3 x more powerful than his own.
Add on the Bijuu Cloak Naruto gave to the alliance, which would be more potent, and then add Hinata’s Rikudo Chakra, and that’s even more potent than that.
Hinata used her own Chakra to reheal Naruto allowing him to reenter 100% KCM right after having so much of his Chakra drained that he fell on his knees, a worse case than this, where at least Naruto was still able to stand. So Hinata’s chakra saw a massive leap in quantity and quality.
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Keep in mind Naruto had 100% Kurama during The Last, not 50% like in the War. So his 100% KCM > 50% Bijuu Mode. And Hinata healed that when Naruto was so low on Chakra he couldn’t maintain KCM and couldn’t even stand.
To sum up, not only is Hinata’s Rikudo Chakra more potent than Bijuu Chakra, she also received FAR MORE Chakra from Hamura than she did from Naruto. Meaning, even if one wants to deny everything else, at the VERY LEAST, she can easily replicate, if not surpass, the Air Palm she pulled off with inferior Bijuu Chakra in a lower quantity. And that alone, as explained before, would be enough to knock Sakura out.
Argument #15: Hinata can’t fly, That was just special effects.
There are actually plenty of reasons to believe Hinata was flying here of her own accord. Crying special effects means nothing as this can be used for anything flashy, like claiming Madara’s PS only split a mountain because it would look cool. Doesn’t change the fact that it still happened.
Note that Kakashi credits only the Rikudo Chakra itself for allowing the user to fly, and no other special conditions such as Six Paths Sage Mode or being the Juubi’s Jinchuriki. Along with that, we also see in The Last that Naruto was in fact flying around in Bijuu Sage Mode in his fight with Toneri, furthering supporting the notion that no special form is needed to use Rikudo Chakra to fly.
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Note that Kakashi credits only the Rikudo Chakra itself for allowing the user to fly, and no other special conditions such as Six Paths Sage Mode or being the Juubi’s Jinchuriki. Along with that, we also see in The Last that Naruto was in fact flying around in Bijuu Sage Mode in his fight with Toneri, furthering supporting the notion that no special form is needed to use Rikudo Chakra to fly.
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Argument #16: Naruto was helping her fly.
Nope, not only was Naruto shown unable to pass his flying abilities on to others, as he created a TSB platform for Sasuke to stand on during their fight with Kaguya, but simple logic tells us that you don’t hold up someone in mid-air by simply locking lips. And the possession of their bodies clearly shows they’re floating individually and Naruto isn’t carrying her in any way.
Argument #17: Sasuke and Kakashi weren’t flying.
Sasuke and Kakashi not flying despite having Rikudo Chakra is irrelevant.
With Kakashi, it makes sense. One, Naruto didn’t learn it instantly even WITH Rikudo Mode, which as stated in the databook, greatly speeds up the learning process of such things. Two, he saw Naruto/Sasuke finishing Kaguya off, so no reason for him to fly back, three, he had that Chakra for a few mere seconds do no reason to think he’d master it so quick in battle, and four, no need when he landed safely on the ground.
With Sasuke, Hagormo’s powers were split in two, so him not being able to fly makes sense, just as Naruto didn’t gain Rennigan despite having Indra + Ashura’s Chakra within him.
With Kakashi, it makes sense. One, Naruto didn’t learn it instantly even WITH Rikudo Mode, which as stated in the databook, greatly speeds up the learning process of such things. Two, he saw Naruto/Sasuke finishing Kaguya off, so no reason for him to fly back, three, he had that Chakra for a few mere seconds do no reason to think he’d master it so quick in battle, and four, no need when he landed safely on the ground.
With Sasuke, Hagormo’s powers were split in two, so him not being able to fly makes sense, just as Naruto didn’t gain Rennigan despite having Indra + Ashura’s Chakra within him.
Argument #18: Hinata’s Taijutsu wouldn't overwhelm Sakura’s.
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64 Palms is a true testament to Hinata’s amazing taijutsu prowess.
Notice what Kakashi says. REGARDLESS of having penetrative vision, to be able to hit the Chakra Points in the heat of battle against non-static opponents is something this man finds amazing. And this is Kakashi simply speaking of the Gentle Fist itself, not even the 64 Palms, a combo attack that pushes the Gentle Fist to its limit.
With 64 Palms, Hinata needs to react, aim, and move fast enough to align the tiny chakra points at the edge of her fingers which are as small as the tip of a needle with the various equally tiny chakra points on an opponents body 64 times, all while maneuvering around in the heat of battle in a manner and speed so as to prevent her opponent from escaping her combo attack.
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Then there is their short taijutsu feats in The Last.
With Sakura, it’s nothing impressive. She fights off a bunch of maiden puppets that were designed for service rather than combat, and her taijutsu itself doesn’t come off as that impressive when noticing that all the maiden puppets just fly towards her with no coherence or technique.
With Hinata, she fights against the same puppets that gave Hiashi trouble, as I went into detail above. During the fight, with no Byakugan abilities and pure taijutsu, she redirects the momentum of one of the high-speed puppets, sending it flying, (this not shown in the GIF) dodges an attack from above before proceeding to double kick two other puppets and black flips off of one of them into the air. Landing, she then, without even seeing it, dodges a puppet who attacks her from behind, and finally proceeds to take on two other puppets before being stopped by Toneri.
Sakura’s agility is definitely there, but not only is Hinata’s taijutsu still faster (64 Palms), but its not the same as what Hinata displayed, actually fighting puppets made for combat, same ones who fought off Naruto and Hiashi, wherein she also displayed great skill, redirecting momentum, back flipping off opponents, incorporating kicks into the Gentle Fist style, which doesn’t use kicks, dodging an attack from behind without even using Byakugan, If Hinata can avoid a point-blank assault from behind without using the Byakugan’s 360 vision and precognition when she’s aware of it, she’s not falling prey to a linear, predictable punch from Sakura.
Argument #19: Sakura can maneuver her way out of 64 Palms.
Understand that the 64 Palms is essentially a one-hit attack. Once the first strike hits, the other 63 are guaranteed, that’s why it’s such a difficult Taijutsu technique to master in the first place and why it’s placed even above Rotation in it’s difficulty, as Tenten notes 64 Palms is the true testament to Neji’s power, even after Neji displayed Rotation.
If it was possible to fight back after getting hit by the first strike, Kidomaru would have done it. He wasn’t in pain, wasn’t having Chakra Points blocked, and had SIX ARMS to help him get the job done (EI grabbing Neji’s hands to stop him from attacking). Yet people want to argue Sakura who is negative in all three of those aspects would be able to fight back while being jabbed by Hinata. While her chakra flow is being disrupted, thus getting rid of her Super Strength, what would she do?
Even Hinata’s split second blunder wasn’t enough to allow the Mini Juubi time to escape the 64 Palms. That’s because it’s a combo attack; it’s meant to leave no room for an opening or opportunity for the enemy to fight back. And yes, if the opponent is fast and skilled enough, they can escape it, but after everything regarding reflexes, taijutsu, and striking speed I’ve said above, there’s no way any sane person can argue Sakura’s skills are good enough to do such a thing.
Another noteworthy feat by Hinata is here.
Hinata was able to protect Neji from a Zetsu before he could react, counter, use rotation, or even turn around. She’s clearly near his level in taijutsu, including reaction time and speed, even before learning 64 Palms and getting Rikudo Chakra at the age of 16.
However, that’s not to say Neji couldn’t have dealt with that on his own, just that Hinata was able to take care of the problem before Neji could take care of it himself. Something like how Sakura would have been able to take out the White Zetsus that attacked her, but Naruto did it instead.
Another feat
If Hinata was able to find an opening and take advantage of it against:
>A far superior Taijutsu opponent
>Who has a Dojutsu that grants precognition
>Who has better reflexes than her
Hinata most definitely will be able to overwhelm and counter:
>A far inferior Taijutsu opponent
>Who has no visual enhancements
>Who has inferior reflexes than her (614)
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If it was possible to fight back after getting hit by the first strike, Kidomaru would have done it. He wasn’t in pain, wasn’t having Chakra Points blocked, and had SIX ARMS to help him get the job done (EI grabbing Neji’s hands to stop him from attacking). Yet people want to argue Sakura who is negative in all three of those aspects would be able to fight back while being jabbed by Hinata. While her chakra flow is being disrupted, thus getting rid of her Super Strength, what would she do?
Even Hinata’s split second blunder wasn’t enough to allow the Mini Juubi time to escape the 64 Palms. That’s because it’s a combo attack; it’s meant to leave no room for an opening or opportunity for the enemy to fight back. And yes, if the opponent is fast and skilled enough, they can escape it, but after everything regarding reflexes, taijutsu, and striking speed I’ve said above, there’s no way any sane person can argue Sakura’s skills are good enough to do such a thing.
Another noteworthy feat by Hinata is here.
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Hinata was able to protect Neji from a Zetsu before he could react, counter, use rotation, or even turn around. She’s clearly near his level in taijutsu, including reaction time and speed, even before learning 64 Palms and getting Rikudo Chakra at the age of 16.
However, that’s not to say Neji couldn’t have dealt with that on his own, just that Hinata was able to take care of the problem before Neji could take care of it himself. Something like how Sakura would have been able to take out the White Zetsus that attacked her, but Naruto did it instead.
Another feat
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If Hinata was able to find an opening and take advantage of it against:
>A far superior Taijutsu opponent
>Who has a Dojutsu that grants precognition
>Who has better reflexes than her
Hinata most definitely will be able to overwhelm and counter:
>A far inferior Taijutsu opponent
>Who has no visual enhancements
>Who has inferior reflexes than her (614)
Argument #20: Sakura took down Shin.
Sakura taking out an off guard and distracted Shin is as relevant as Shikamaru attacking Hidan off guard, Omoi attacking Sakura off guard, and Himawari attacking Naruto off guard. Like I said with Hinata being hit by that Tenseigan Puppet, attacking an off guard/blind-sided opponent isn’t a testament to a person’s actual skill.
Of course, that is unless one wants to argue Naruto, who was able to take on fused Momoshiki in base form after having a massive chunk of his Chakra drained, is someone less in reflexes than Shin. Or that Himawari is faster than Sakura.
We even see later on Shin beating Sakura in an actual 1 on 1, so that further proves my point.
I want to emphasize this point greatly: If Sakura had gotten even one hit on Shin, he would have been out like last time, or at least have visible bruises and blood considering how strong Sakura is, meaning she didn’t touch him even once.
Of course, that is unless one wants to argue Naruto, who was able to take on fused Momoshiki in base form after having a massive chunk of his Chakra drained, is someone less in reflexes than Shin. Or that Himawari is faster than Sakura.
We even see later on Shin beating Sakura in an actual 1 on 1, so that further proves my point.
I want to emphasize this point greatly: If Sakura had gotten even one hit on Shin, he would have been out like last time, or at least have visible bruises and blood considering how strong Sakura is, meaning she didn’t touch him even once.
Hashirama compared her to a 5 Year old Tsunade, I don’t think that qualifies as praise.
Sasori complimented her medical skills, not fighting capabilities.
Sasuke said she could take care of Shin on her own, but we saw how that played out, didn’t we? She got pasted. I mean, Sasuke had been away for years, so what does he even know, right?
As for Hinata, we have this.
“Hinata”
“Be Aware!”
“Hyuga are the Strongest in Konoha”
Naruto displays concern over Hinata when she shows up to protect him, which prompts Hiashi to remind Naruto that the Hyuga Clan are the strongest in Konoha in response to his worries over Hinata. Which, in short, means he acknowledges Hinata as a strong Hyuga, which means a lot considering how he was towards Hinata in the past.
And of course, let’s not forget Naruto constantly praising her strength in The Last and in Boruto. Likewise, Hamura deemed her worthy of inheriting his Chakra, much like Hagormo did with Naruto/Sasuke and Momoshiki with Bolt.
Sasori complimented her medical skills, not fighting capabilities.
Sasuke said she could take care of Shin on her own, but we saw how that played out, didn’t we? She got pasted. I mean, Sasuke had been away for years, so what does he even know, right?
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As for Hinata, we have this.
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“Hinata”
“Be Aware!”
“Hyuga are the Strongest in Konoha”
Naruto displays concern over Hinata when she shows up to protect him, which prompts Hiashi to remind Naruto that the Hyuga Clan are the strongest in Konoha in response to his worries over Hinata. Which, in short, means he acknowledges Hinata as a strong Hyuga, which means a lot considering how he was towards Hinata in the past.
And of course, let’s not forget Naruto constantly praising her strength in The Last and in Boruto. Likewise, Hamura deemed her worthy of inheriting his Chakra, much like Hagormo did with Naruto/Sasuke and Momoshiki with Bolt.
Argument #22: Sakura is a Jonin and Hinata is a Chunnin.
Ranks stopped being relevant when the weak Shikamaru became a Chunnin over literally everyone else who was above him bar Ino and Sakura. Same applies to Kakashi being made Hokage. Not to mention this whole thing hinges n the assumption Hinata even attempted or wanted to move up to Jonin rank.
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BTW, do you guys think this episode confirmed the Jougan is from Hinata's end and has nothing to do with Naruto?
