[VS] Admirals vs Yonkos

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Squard's stab had nothing to do with anything.

Prior to the illness, they were on even ground, deflecting each other's attacks. Had the fight continued, no illness, it'd have been a slug fest. The illness dropped Whitebeard down enough that they were no longer on even ground and let Akainu hit a clean, direct hit with no defense or attempt at avoiding by Whitebeard.

Whitebeard didn't fight Blackbeard's crew, Whitebeard got killed by Whitebeard's crew. They killed him by just shooting at him and stabbing him, basic tactics. None of them were using powers aside from Teach in s brief skirmish.

Akainu on the other hand was able to fight all the WB commanders minus two, Crocodile and dozens of his pirates and came out without a scratch. WB got killed by some up and coming pirates and some escaped convicts, while Akainu left a clash with dozens of people including WB commanders with no further injuries but WB left their clash as better off? Please.


Kizaru stopped WB's bisento with one leg and injured him twice. Kizaru and Akainu did the same thing when they fought WB, but Akainu is the only one who can fair against Yonko? I don't think so.

Whitebeard with his entire crew didn't do any significant damage to the Admirals. Kizaru remained unharmed, Kuzan suffered one blow that only made his lip bleed, and Akainu was blindsided and dropped in a hole, but he reemerged with no sustained injuries and fought just as well as he did before. But yeah, WB just babyshakes all three by himself
I meant he took on Blackbeard but I still think Whitebeard was superior in the battle.
 

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More like overrated.

If someone like Doffy, who was shown to be slightly weaker than Fujitora, getting beaten by someone like Luffy who isn't even admiral level yet... you think Kaido will have any problem dealing with Fujitora or Kizaru when Doffy himself was shitting himself from just the thought of Kaido? Ohh, but lets not forget the famous Shanks who has Haki up his ass 24/7 fighting along side a beast such as Kaido. BB who also possesses WB's DF which wrecked havoc on Marineford. I didn't even mention Big Mam yet, and she has to be strong considering that she is also a Yonko. I don't think they give away that title just for the laughs.

Tell me how this is even remotely fair for the admirals?
Luffy is admiral level imo
Blackbeard got scared when he heard Akainu coming at him 2 years ago.
We know nothing of Big Mam and Shanks is just hype
 

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How bout taking Fujitora out of the list and putting there Sengoku. I don't see Fujitora as some powerhouse like the old admirals.
Probably Sengoku would make a change, considering he was one of the strongest during Gol's era ...
 

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Seems like the point stands, thoughts of Kaido make Doffy sweat while being confronted by Kuzan makes him smile.
Theres also the fact that Kaido is his main and most important business partner. Angering Kaido means the destruction of everything Doflamingo has worked for.
 

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Seems like the point stands, thoughts of Kaido make Doffy sweat while being confronted by Kuzan makes him smile.
lol that's not very valid... hundred chapters ago the mere thought scrubs like Law and Luffy so much as scratching him made him smile too.
Now he is laying with his face down in the dirt.
 

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If that was the case then Luffy would have had no trouble in defeating Doffy, and mind you Doffy was weakened and not even at full power and Luffy was still struggling, even with Law by his side.

Luffy isn't admiral level yet.
That's why he was begging for like a 10 min break against Mingo, right? LOL. He's not admiral level.
You guys are underestimating Doffy, it's not Luffy who was too weak, it was Doffy who was too strong.
 

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oh come man isnt it obvious yonkos will **** them, if admirals could win on one vs one on yonkos why the hellwould they need shikibukai system. if admirals could win on one on one fight there would be no yonkos.
 

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Theres also the fact that Kaido is his main and most important business partner. Angering Kaido means the destruction of everything Doflamingo has worked for.
lol that's not very valid... hundred chapters ago the mere thought scrubs like Law and Luffy so much as scratching him made him smile too.
Now he is laying with his face down in the dirt.
It is though. Law stated that Kaido would wipe the floor with Doffy, so he was fearing his power in that context. If he was smiling while confronting Kuzan then that's obviously not going to be the case. Luffy and Law scratching him made him smile.. What's your point? He knew he'd shit on them, and he could still shit on them at this point of the manga if nobody bought time for Luffy to enter 4th Gear for the second time.
 

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And Doflamingo was overjoyed at the thought of warring with Whitebeard, so smiling at an Admiral level fighter while being scared of a Yonko means nothing.
You can reply to the argument we were having, instead of picking and choosing what you want to argue. Anyways that's completely out of context. Warring with Whitebeard's crew is not warring with Whitebeard himself. The only thing he did was confront Jozu, he didn't go for Marco or Whitebeard.
 

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You can reply to the argument we were having, instead of picking and choosing what you want to argue. Anyways that's completely out of context. Warring with Whitebeard's crew is not warring with Whitebeard himself. The only thing he did was confront Jozu, he didn't go for Marco or Whitebeard.
That's not really the point. Doffy was excited at the thought of having to fight Whitebeard's force period.

Doffy was weary of Kaido because he knows Kaido is ruthless and unreasonable. Kuzan, however, is not.

Another testament to Doffy's emotions not being a good indicator is that he went back and forth being scowling in rage at Law and Luffy and smiling the entire fight. I suppose the moments he was frowning he considered them bigger threats than Kuzan then changed his mind when smiling, then back when frowning again? Because that's how his emotions work, right?
 

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As far as individual ranking goes I would rank them as such
Kaido>Akainu>Shanks>Aokiji>Bigmom>Kizaru>Fujitora>Blackbeard
Based on that I'd give it to the yonkos extreme diff. Still can't be sure but even if it's the admirals it's still gonna be an extreme diff fight for them.
And the yonkos are really overrated here. Defeating the admirals is one thing but wrecking them? Not happening.
 

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Why would they dispatch every Marine to go hunt down Yonko? Not only do they not know where they are at all times, but every Admiral also has to be ready to defend Marineford or handle situations like Sabaody. Just sending Admirals on a goose chase to find Yonko is a horrible tactic. Especially when it means you need to send many Marines with them to handle their fleets. Then when an emergency breaks out, Marines that would have been available are now halfway across the world hoping to run into the Yonko.
What? Who is talking about dispatching every marine? The question was admirals vs yonko. The admirals go and come essentially as they please, if they thought they were strong enough to fight any of the yonko, there wouldn't be anything or one stopping them. We know Garp actively hunted down Roger looking for confrontation. Other marines probably do the same for certain pirates
(Like smoker with Luffy). But none of the Admirals pursue the yonko. So unless your suggesting the only thing stopping the marines from taking down the yonko is their mastery of hide and seek then I don't see your point.
 
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