[VS] Admirals vs Yonkos

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If you coat your attacks with haki, Yami Yami won't be able to nullify it, and we currently don't even know if his haki is good enough to match the admirals or even if he has the other two colors.

:| i know Im just sayin that u are underrating BB.

Well if u are talking about pre time skip then it's understandable.
2y for BB makes hell of a difference.
 

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:| i know Im just sayin that u are underrating BB.

Well if u are talking about pre time skip then it's understandable.
2y for BB makes hell of a difference.

No, I'm basically saying that we have no info og how good it is, or if he has the other two type. One cannot magically give imaginary feats of BB's haki overcoming akainu's haki to the point his yami yami can work smoothly, that's a huge ass feats right there, and you're merely assuming that BB is that good.

But like I said, his story portrayal is bigger than aakainu's, thus putting him above him .
 

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yonkous>>Admirals Look at whitebeard vs akainu clearly not equals.
 

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Yonko are stronger. BB even has one of the color trio as his subordinate
 

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yonkous>>Admirals Look at whitebeard vs akainu clearly not equals.

You're right, seeing as Akainu left both fights better.

In the first skirmish, they matched each other equally and then Akainu gained the upper hand because of illness.

In the second skirmish, Whitebeard hit Akainu in a sneak attack. The anime dragged out this scene, in the manga, Whitebeard immediately hit him. Akainu was then able to slice off half his face and Whitebeard "won" because the second attack destroyed the ground, causing Akainu to fall into the hole. If the ground was intact, Whitebeard would have lost his life, seeing as Akainu emerged with no visible injuries and was able to plow through crowds of pirates, Jinbei, Ivankov and then clash with all but two of Whitebeard's commanders, Crocodile and tons of no-name pirates and come back without a scratch.
 

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You're right, seeing as Akainu left both fights better.

In the first skirmish, they matched each other equally and then Akainu gained the upper hand because of illness.

In the second skirmish, Whitebeard hit Akainu in a sneak attack. The anime dragged out this scene, in the manga, Whitebeard immediately hit him. Akainu was then able to slice off half his face and Whitebeard "won" because the second attack destroyed the ground, causing Akainu to fall into the hole. If the ground was intact, Whitebeard would have lost his life, seeing as Akainu emerged with no visible injuries and was able to plow through crowds of pirates, Jinbei, Ivankov and then clash with all but two of Whitebeard's commanders, Crocodile and tons of no-name pirates and come back without a scratch.
Nope, Akainu got the better of the first round but second one went to WB.

First round only because WB was already stabbed by Squard and had a heart attack these led to Akainu taking that round.

Second round near death WB beat Akainu in 2 hits. First hit was a "sneak attack" even with CoO Akainu could not dodge it and even though WB was severely injured. Second hit put Akainu down, it's not like he fall in the hole and got back up in seconds. It took his time to recover from that attack. If the ground was still intact WB could of just hit him with another quake punch and killed him, falling into the hole saved him.
 

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They are more or less equal.

My own take on their rankings.

1.Kaido
2.Shanks
3.Akainu
4.Kizaru
5.Aokiji
6.Big Mom
7.Black Beard
8.Fujitora

The logia trio specifically are extremely close in strength.

hmm BB and Fuji could be switched depending on how accustomed BB has gotten to his DF powers over the timeskip. Other than that I agree.
 

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Anyone who says either team is winning bar very high-dif is lying to themselves.
 

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If you coat your attacks with haki, Yami Yami won't be able to nullify it, and we currently don't even know if his haki is good enough to match the admirals or even if he has the other two colors.

But yes, his portrayal puts him above akainu

That's not true. Haki doesn't nullify DF abilities. The only DF ability that works for is Law's cutting power.
 

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Nope, Akainu got the better of the first round but second one went to WB.

First round only because WB was already stabbed by Squard and had a heart attack these led to Akainu taking that round.

Second round near death WB beat Akainu in 2 hits. First hit was a "sneak attack" even with CoO Akainu could not dodge it and even though WB was severely injured. Second hit put Akainu down, it's not like he fall in the hole and got back up in seconds. It took his time to recover from that attack. If the ground was still intact WB could of just hit him with another quake punch and killed him, falling into the hole saved him.

Squard's stab did both. Both Akainu and Marco attributed that heart attack to his condition due to old age.

Whitebeard didn't beat Akainu. To beat someone is to render them unable to fight. Jozu got beat by Kuzan. Akainu beat Ace. The second hit knocked down Akainu, but didn't defeat him. It broke the ground causing him to fall into a hole. It took him time to resurface because he had to melt through the ground, something that doesn't happen in seconds. If the ground was still intact, Whitebeard would have been killed because his condition would strike again, and he was winded after breaking the ground. Both hits had the same effect on Akainu, he could have just sprung up and sliced the other half of his face away if his footing wasn't falling.
 

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Squard's stab did both. Both Akainu and Marco attributed that heart attack to his condition due to old age.

Whitebeard didn't beat Akainu. To beat someone is to render them unable to fight. Jozu got beat by Kuzan. Akainu beat Ace. The second hit knocked down Akainu, but didn't defeat him. It broke the ground causing him to fall into a hole. It took him time to resurface because he had to melt through the ground, something that doesn't happen in seconds. If the ground was still intact, Whitebeard would have been killed because his condition would strike again, and he was winded after breaking the ground. Both hits had the same effect on Akainu, he could have just sprung up and sliced the other half of his face away if his footing wasn't falling.
The thing is he was rendered unable to fight. After the second hit he fell into the hole, Blackbeard appered, BB vs WB, WB vs BB crew, WB dies, BB steals WB's fruit, all this happens before Akainu gets back up. With his abilities it should've have taken that long, it would have took him no time at all if he wasn't recovering. If the ground was still intact he would have been lying there immobile still conscious with a angry WB in front of him.
 

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The thing is he was rendered unable to fight. After the second hit he fell into the hole, Blackbeard appered, BB vs WB, WB vs BB crew, WB dies, BB steals WB's fruit, all this happens before Akainu gets back up. With his abilities it should've have taken that long, it would have took him no time at all if he wasn't recovering. If the ground was still intact he would have been lying there immobile still conscious with a angry WB in front of him.

Because Akainu had to melt his way back up, which takes a while. There was nothing but water in that hole, If Akainu was defeated he would have fell in and died.

Nope. He appeared to be lying there immobile the first time and could still lunge up and strike
 

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We already know that Kaido>all
Yet the other Yonko can pretty much fight at a similar level to an extent [ ]
Kuzan commended Doffy for being an extremely exceptional pirate and Doffy didn't seem like he cared about their confrontation and was smiling, but Law stated that Kaido would wipe the floor with Doffy, and Doffy was sweating like he just popped a molly.
 

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We already know that Kaido>all
Yet the other Yonko can pretty much fight at a similar level to an extent [ ]
Kuzan commended Doffy for being an extremely exceptional pirate and Doffy didn't seem like he cared about their confrontation and was smiling, but Law stated that Kaido would wipe the floor with Doffy, and Doffy was sweating like he just popped a molly.

Question, how do you think Zoro fares against Fujitora? It ties into this post, trust me
 

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Because Akainu had to melt his way back up, which takes a while. There was nothing but water in that hole, If Akainu was defeated he would have fell in and died.

Nope. He appeared to be lying there immobile the first time and could still lunge up and strike
It would've taken that long to melt/break the concrete. He obviously fell onto something or and area that wasn't covered in water and got trapped under rocks or else he would've just flew out the hole instead of busting through the ground.
 
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