[VS] Admirals vs Yonkos

[Punk Hazard]

It would've taken that long to melt/break the concrete. He obviously fell onto something or and area that wasn't covered in water and got trapped under rocks or else he would've just flew out the hole instead of busting through the ground.

How can fly out of the hole when there is no ground beneath him to propel himself off of. It makes far more sense that he broke a hole into the wall by lodging his fist into it and then melting through the ground, which took a while

 

[Apêx1]

Question, how do you think Zoro fares against Fujitora? It ties into this post, trust me

He gets low-mid diff'd. Now explain how this could tie in to what I was saying?

 

[Punk Hazard]

He gets low-mid diff'd. Now explain how this could tie in to what I was saying?

Zoro countering one of Fujitora's attacks left him winded and breathing hard. He gets low-mid diffed by Fuji.

Countering one of Kuzan's attacks left Doflamingo panting and breathing hard. See where this is going?

 

[Zorø]

You're right, seeing as Akainu left both fights better.

In the first skirmish, they matched each other equally and then Akainu gained the upper hand because of illness.

In the second skirmish, Whitebeard hit Akainu in a sneak attack. The anime dragged out this scene, in the manga, Whitebeard immediately hit him. Akainu was then able to slice off half his face and Whitebeard "won" because the second attack destroyed the ground, causing Akainu to fall into the hole. If the ground was intact, Whitebeard would have lost his life, seeing as Akainu emerged with no visible injuries and was able to plow through crowds of pirates, Jinbei, Ivankov and then clash with all but two of Whitebeard's commanders, Crocodile and tons of no-name pirates and come back without a scratch.

Exactly my point the only reason Akainu gained the upper hand was because of Squardo's stab and his illness and Whitebeard still defeated him and had the strength to demolish half of Marineford and furthermore taking on BB's crew eventually leading towards his death......I clearly saw who was superior the whole fight mate.....Akainu was saved due to plot Oda even said it if I can recall correctly.

 

[Dannie]

Shanks, Kaido, Big Mam and BB are all featless. Why even try to make this matchup knowing that we know nothing of their power? The only thing we can gather from them is hype.

Regardless, even with the hype of the Yonko, I'm sure they beat the admirals relatively easily. Whitebeard alone was able to give the admirals trouble along with Jozu and Marco, and somehow you think all 4 Yonko, excluding WB, will have trouble dealing with these guys? Shanks and Kaido are enough. Big Mam and BB are just overkill.

Only Akainu is giving the Yonko a fight. The rest get slaughtered.

 

[Amaterasu]

Damn Admirals are really underrated here.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Exactly my point the only reason Akainu gained the upper hand was because of Squardo's stab and his illness and Whitebeard still defeated him and had the strength to demolish half of Marineford and furthermore taking on BB's crew eventually leading towards his death......I clearly saw who was superior the whole fight mate.....Akainu was saved due to plot Oda even said it if I can recall correctly.

Squard's stab had nothing to do with anything.

Prior to the illness, they were on even ground, deflecting each other's attacks. Had the fight continued, no illness, it'd have been a slug fest. The illness dropped Whitebeard down enough that they were no longer on even ground and let Akainu hit a clean, direct hit with no defense or attempt at avoiding by Whitebeard.

Whitebeard didn't fight Blackbeard's crew, Whitebeard got killed by Whitebeard's crew. They killed him by just shooting at him and stabbing him, basic tactics. None of them were using powers aside from Teach in s brief skirmish.

Akainu on the other hand was able to fight all the WB commanders minus two, Crocodile and dozens of his pirates and came out without a scratch. WB got killed by some up and coming pirates and some escaped convicts, while Akainu left a clash with dozens of people including WB commanders with no further injuries but WB left their clash as better off? Please.

Shanks, Kaido, Big Mam and BB are all featless. Why even try to make this matchup knowing that we know nothing of their power? The only thing we can gather from them is hype.

Regardless, even with the hype of the Yonko, I'm sure they beat the admirals relatively easily. Whitebeard alone was able to give the admirals trouble along with Jozu and Marco, and somehow you think all 4 Yonko, excluding WB, will have trouble dealing with these guys? Shanks and Kaido are enough. Big Mam and BB are just overkill.

Only Akainu is giving the Yonko a fight. The rest get slaughtered.

Kizaru stopped WB's bisento with one leg and injured him twice. Kizaru and Akainu did the same thing when they fought WB, but Akainu is the only one who can fair against Yonko? I don't think so.

Whitebeard with his entire crew didn't do any significant damage to the Admirals. Kizaru remained unharmed, Kuzan suffered one blow that only made his lip bleed, and Akainu was blindsided and dropped in a hole, but he reemerged with no sustained injuries and fought just as well as he did before. But yeah, WB just babyshakes all three by himself

 

[kageking]

Yonkous are stronger than admirals. If the marines were strong enough to fight yonkous then there would be no yonkou as the marines would have no reason not to eliminate them if they were capable of doing so

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yonkous are stronger than admirals. If the marines were strong enough to fight yonkous then there would be no yonkou as the marines would have no reason not to eliminate them if they were capable of doing so

Why would they dispatch every Marine to go hunt down Yonko? Not only do they not know where they are at all times, but every Admiral also has to be ready to defend Marineford or handle situations like Sabaody. Just sending Admirals on a goose chase to find Yonko is a horrible tactic. Especially when it means you need to send many Marines with them to handle their fleets. Then when an emergency breaks out, Marines that would have been available are now halfway across the world hoping to run into the Yonko.

 

[Apêx1]

Zoro countering one of Fujitora's attacks left him winded and breathing hard. He gets low-mid diffed by Fuji.

Countering one of Kuzan's attacks left Doflamingo panting and breathing hard. See where this is going?

I can't recall him panting and breathing hard, even after looking through the chapters. And assume that he was breathing hard, I'd just attribute that to the extremely cold conditions he would have been subject to while frozen. There's absolutely no comparison you can make here that's viable. Not that Doffy would get low-mid diff'd by an admiral in the first place.

 

[Dannie]

Damn Admirals are really underrated here.

More like overrated.

If someone like Doffy, who was shown to be slightly weaker than Fujitora, getting beaten by someone like Luffy who isn't even admiral level yet... you think Kaido will have any problem dealing with Fujitora or Kizaru when Doffy himself was shitting himself from just the thought of Kaido? Ohh, but lets not forget the famous Shanks who has Haki up his ass 24/7 fighting along side a beast such as Kaido. BB who also possesses WB's DF which wrecked havoc on Marineford. I didn't even mention Big Mam yet, and she has to be strong considering that she is also a Yonko. I don't think they give away that title just for the laughs.

Tell me how this is even remotely fair for the admirals?

 

[Punk Hazard]

More like overrated.

If someone like Doffy, who was shown to be slightly weaker than Fujitora, getting beaten by someone like Luffy who isn't even admiral level yet... you think Kaido will have any problem dealing with Fujitora or Kizaru when Doffy himself was shitting himself from just the thought of Kaido? Ohh, but lets not forget the famous Shanks who has Haki up his ass 24/7 fighting along side a beast such as Kaido. BB who also possesses WB's DF which wrecked havoc on Marineford. I didn't even mention Big Mam yet, and she has to be strong considering that she is also a Yonko. I don't think they give away that title just for the laughs.

Tell me how this is even remotely fair for the admirals?

Slightly lower than Fujitora? One attack from Kuzan left him winded, but he's only slightly below an Admiral? El oh el

 

[Insidious Smile]

We lack feats from Yonko, so I guess I'd go with the admirals extreme diff.

The Admirals lack feats as well. Besides the fight that lasted 10 days between Akainu and Aokiji, which was most likely a fight of endurance, the admirals have yet to show their full potential in battle.

In my opinion the Yonkos would win mid-difficulty. There is a reason why the WG does not directly confront the emperors.

 

[Dannie]

Squard's stab had nothing to do with anything.

Prior to the illness, they were on even ground, deflecting each other's attacks. Had the fight continued, no illness, it'd have been a slug fest. The illness dropped Whitebeard down enough that they were no longer on even ground and let Akainu hit a clean, direct hit with no defense or attempt at avoiding by Whitebeard.

Whitebeard didn't fight Blackbeard's crew, Whitebeard got killed by Whitebeard's crew. They killed him by just shooting at him and stabbing him, basic tactics. None of them were using powers aside from Teach in s brief skirmish.

Akainu on the other hand was able to fight all the WB commanders minus two, Crocodile and dozens of his pirates and came out without a scratch. WB got killed by some up and coming pirates and some escaped convicts, while Akainu left a clash with dozens of people including WB commanders with no further injuries but WB left their clash as better off? Please.


Kizaru stopped WB's bisento with one leg and injured him twice. Kizaru and Akainu did the same thing when they fought WB, but Akainu is the only one who can fair against Yonko? I don't think so.

Whitebeard with his entire crew didn't do any significant damage to the Admirals. Kizaru remained unharmed, Kuzan suffered one blow that only made his lip bleed, and Akainu was blindsided and dropped in a hole, but he reemerged with no sustained injuries and fought just as well as he did before. But yeah, WB just babyshakes all three by himself

No, but Kaido and/or Shanks can.

 

[Dannie]

Slightly lower than Fujitora? One attack from Kuzan left him winded, but he's only slightly below an Admiral? El oh el

Fujitora and Kuzan are in different leagues. lel

 

[Punk Hazard]

No, but Kaido and/or Shanks can.

Lmfao sure.

 

[Dannie]

Lmfao sure.

Why do you think everyone was scared shitless when Shanks and his boys appeared?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Why do you think everyone was scared shitless when Shanks and his boys appeared?

They weren't. They were surprised but the Marines were fired up to fight. Also, Shanks had his fleet and crew with him. Shanks showed up alone, the war would have continued.

 

[CrimsonReaper]

They weren't. They were surprised but the Marines were fired up to fight. Also, Shanks had his fleet and crew with him. Shanks showed up alone, the war would have continued.

They were lmao Kizaru was afraid of Benn Beckman.

Why would he go there alone??

 

[Punk Hazard]

They were lmao Kizaru was afraid of Benn Beckman.

Why would he go there alone??

Kizaru calls everyone scary. Kizaru also went on to attack Law's submarine anyway even though Beckman didn't move and was still aiming his gun.

People like to say a testament to Shanks' strength is he stopped the war. If Shanks was alone, the war would not have stopped so it can't be a testament to his strength.