according to Naruto fanbase logic 15 years old Obito > Minato

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Top left panel. Minato says it best. "He is no longer your weapon"
It was at this point that Kurama was no longer Obito's but a separate opponent all together.
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obito w/ kurama > minato. obito without it got rasengan'd. even then he could have used izanagi to survive.
 

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obito=/= jinchuriki. he used his sharingan to forcefully take control of the kyuubi.

i mean, what your saying here is like saying when gamabunta is summoned, its naruto vs character not naruto and gamabunta vs character.

its the fact that the nine tails was physically in the battlefield that makes all the difference, whereas naruto simply uses his chakra to his will.
 

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kurama pierced him with a claw. im sure thats possible when controlled as well. or with obito's bigass rinnegan stakes that he spits out of kamui dimension. and minato had no choice but to die since it was the only way he could seal something so big. replace kurama with mazo and same thing happens. minato dies to prevent juubi's revival, obito stabs him mid sealing
 

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This should be enough to any one has even little tiny piece of a brain
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However, those who don't have the "brain" can't be helped.
 
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