according to Naruto fanbase logic 15 years old Obito > Minato

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

if you put Naruto at #5 #4 etc because of the kyuubi you've got to admit that Minato was defeated by a 15 years old kid and here's why
Obito used the Kyuubi just like Naruto am I right?
so you've got to consider it Obito's power just like you consider it Naruto's power
in other words it wasN'T Obito + Kurama vs Minato
it was Obito vs Minato unless you want to take away Kyuubi from Naruto in rankings and vs debates
15 years old Obito > Minato

 

[Sovereignx72]

no because naruto had to train and master his chakra mode and it requires skill whereas with obito all he has to do is look at kurama

 

[GenKiDama]

Just looking at ur name reduced any credibility you have to zero.

 

[FireBird Marco]

He wasn't 15, he was around 20. Also He would've died if not for the Zetsu body!!!

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Obito was 14.

Obito wouldve beaten Minato if he warped him immediately but at the end of the day Minato won.

Minato>MS Obito.

 

[End of Days]

Stop making threads

Thank you

 

[Tobiramas]

Except Minato is the one who actually killed himself

 

[Inichi Matsuka]

First of all. Naruto's power is Kurama. It's literally his life force.
It's much different than with Obito, where he was just using Kurama. It's obvious that you don't understand the manga..

By the way I don't recall Minato losing to Obito.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

no because naruto had to train and master his chakra mode and it requires skill whereas with obito all he has to do is look at kurama

same
controlling = controlling

Obito was 14.

Obito wouldve beaten Minato if he warped him immediately but at the end of the day Minato won.

Minato>MS Obito.

Minato died Obito won

First of all. Naruto's power is Kurama. It's literally his life force.
It's much different than with Obito, where he was just using Kurama. It's obvious that you don't understand the manga..

By the way I don't recall Minato losing to Obito.

Naruto uses Kurama
Obito used Kurama
same

 

[two fates]

First of all. Naruto's power is Kurama. It's literally his life force.
It's much different than with Obito, where he was just using Kurama. It's obvious that you don't understand the manga..

By the way I don't recall Minato losing to Obito.

Yup, agree and for OP naruto > itachi

 

[Tobiramas]

Minato died Obito won

By this logic, Sharingan Sasuke > Itachi

 

[Inichi Matsuka]

Minato died Obito won

Naruto uses Kurama
Obito used Kurama
same

Obito had lost control of Kurama. Fighting Minato was not his objective, which he still lost at.
Minato already used the Reaper Death Seal by the time he was stabbed. So no, Obito lost.

Your logic is very much flawed.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Yup, agree and for OP naruto > itachi

Naruto <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Itachi
Naruto and Kurama >= Itachi

 

[Kurama2012]

obito was no longer in control of kurama as minato took that away also minato gave his life for the village he wasnt forced he choose that path himself so your argument is invalid and obito fled the battle after one rasengan and obito is lucky the fox was there as minato would have destroyed obito had the fox not been their

 

[Kurama2012]

Naruto <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Itachi
Naruto and Kurama >= Itachi

when do you get naruto without the fox, this is like saying itachi without sharingan gets beat by kakashi

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

obito was no longer in control of kurama as minato took that away also minato gave his life for the village he wasnt forced he choose that path himself so your argument is invalid and obito fled the battle after one rasengan and obito is lucky the fox was there as minato would have destroyed obito had the fox not been their

but the fox has been there
same story as: Pain stated Jman might have won if he had knowledge BUT HE HADN'T SO IT DOESN'T MATTER

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

when do you get naruto without the fox, this is like saying itachi without sharingan gets beat by kakashi

ms is not a living breathing creature with own will

 

[YellowFang]

Obito never defeated Minato...
In a long run(not using currently alive logic)...
Minato was the easy winner,

Minato's tasks:
1- Protect his family... Partially succeeded
2- Protect his village... Succeeded
3- Defeat the masked man... Super victory
4- Solve the Kyuubi matter... Solved

Obito's goals:
1- Retrieve Kyuubi... Failed
2- Destroy Konoha... Failed
3- Defeat the Hokage... Lost badly

So, by this definition of comparison... Minato owned Obito... Even though he was a 15 year old, Hiruzen or Tsunade would have definitely failed...

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Obito never defeated Minato...
In a long run(not using currently alive logic)...
Minato was the easy winner,

Minato's tasks:
1- Protect his family... Partially succeeded
2- Protect his village... Succeeded
3- Defeat the masked man... Super victory
4- Solve the Kyuubi matter... Solved

Obito's goals:
1- Retrieve Kyuubi... Failed
2- Destroy Konoha... Failed
3- Defeat the Hokage... Lost badly

So, by this definition of comparison... Minato owned Obito... Even though he was a 15 year old, Hiruzen or Tsunade would have definitely failed...

according to your logic Hiruzen pwned Orochimaru U_U

 

[Minator93]

What shit is this? Minato beat Obito and "sacrificed himself" for Naruto U_U

Another fail U_U