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These filler writers are being retarded.
Hagoromo and Hamura did not even know that Kaguya was the Juubi and thought that they were fighting a manifestation of the divine tree, even after meeting Naruto that's how Hagoromo explained it.
And yet in these fillers they had Gamamura tell them that they were going to fight their own mother and also claimed that Hagoromo knew in advance that Kaguya would be back to fight Naruto and Sasuke.
 

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Thats what I'm trying to clarify. Alot of people are saying SP gave Kishi the basis for Kaguya. I just need proof.

If that true maybe I will support this filler.

People need to understand what I'm looking for.
 

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These filler writers are being retarded.
Hagoromo and Hamura did not even know that Kaguya was the Juubi and thought that they were fighting a manifestation of the divine tree, even after meeting Naruto that's how Hagoromo explained it.
And yet in these fillers they had Gamamura tell them that they were going to fight their own mother and also claimed that Hagoromo knew in advance that Kaguya would be back to fight Naruto and Sasuke.

You right about this^^^^

Just goes to show you how anime can be dufferent from the manga. DBZ was so bad with this also lol
 

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If that true maybe I will support this filler.

People need to understand what I'm looking for.

I getchu bro. I'm the same way. Its just when all you got is filler to go on its easier to just get with it and have fun watching. Thats what I've decided to do.
 

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Its weird to think Hago had Rinne his whole life and Hamura didnt have Tenseigan.

It makes sense that they grew stronger and awakened these doujutsus.

Hagaromo was not born with Rinnegan. Its manga fact that he AWAKENED it.
:| Except I never said he had it his whole life.
 

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Yo, i will answer both you guys at the same time seeing as i am having two conversations about the same thing.

I am not disputing that the filler episodes are 100% under the production of Studio Perriot. and i am not assuming that Kishi is involved either.

However here's my stance on it SIMPLE:

If what Studio Perriot present to us does not in any way take from the manga but actually contributes to it and effectively successfully ties up loose ends in a way that Kishi should have then i will not put it down just because Kishimoto himself did not write the particular script.

Studio Perriot has been working with Kishimoto for many many years and are well versed when it comes to the actual canon which is the manga.

That said, Kishi himself wasted MANY PANELS AND LOTS OF TIME GOING ON AND ON ABOUT RIN and the whole OBITO thing. Taking us into constant pointless flashbacks of Rin and i am sure you can remember almost all of us getting tired of how much he was longing it out.

Maybe if he had spent less time going on about Rin he could have figured out a better way to defeat Madaras character, as well as give us the backstory of the Sage of the Six Paths.

But as he couldnt figure out a way of defeating Madara and was constantly going on about RIN, Studio Perriot stepped in with the idea of Kaguya; bearing in mind Kishi was running out of time on his contract.

So Kaguya was a character suggested by Studio Perriot.

Disappointing on Kishis side. The whole of Shippuden we would be getting whispers of this mysterious Sage of the Six Paths. Yet Kishi didnt even go into his backstory. Yet was going on about Rin.... Alot.

You guys are jokers and cant seem to see when something which is in keeping with the story itself serves to complement and complete it without contradicting it.

And again i say this. As much as i can not say Kishi is definitely a part of it. Neither can you say that he is not.

You're happy to get something we haven't seen in the manga, regardless of whether or not it comes from Kishi himself.

I feel you bro. I got you the first time. I ain't mad at you. I don't even watch the anime, but Im watching the Kaguya fillers. Know why? Because I was happy to get some backstory on Kaguya. I understand where you coming from. It doesn't have to be canon for me to enjoy it and feel somewhat fulfilled from it. Kishi left me with a lot of questions, and I just like seeing how they could be pieced together.

But again, I don't have to feel like the anime is canon, in order for me to appreciate the anime. That's all I'm saying. Canon material is canon material because we KNOW it involves the creator of the story. We KNOW the anime creators can and will deviate slightly from the manga, in ways that can and will alter plot and events slightly to fit the ANIME, not the manga. If people feel like they don't want to take the anime at face value you can't blame them. Meanwhile you over here all butthurt and in your feelz about the questions Kishi didn't answer for you in the manga, and how he spent too much time on Rin....

Inb4 you tell me "take a seat"

Just chill tf out bro. Relax
 

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These filler writers are being retarded.
Hagoromo and Hamura did not even know that Kaguya was the Juubi and thought that they were fighting a manifestation of the divine tree, even after meeting Naruto that's how Hagoromo explained it.
And yet in these fillers they had Gamamura tell them that they were going to fight their own mother and also claimed that Hagoromo knew in advance that Kaguya would be back to fight Naruto and Sasuke.

Look even SP had the hard time to followed Kishi's manga logic and we will see how Juubi sealing process happen next in the future.
 

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You right about this^^^^

Just goes to show you how anime can be dufferent from the manga. DBZ was so bad with this also lol

Honestly, I have no problem with an original background story for these characters, but they should at least respect the canon plot.
 

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Look even SP had the hard time to followed Kishi's manga logic and we will see how Juubi sealing process happen next in the future.

Can't really say that I'm looking forward to that, to be honest. The Juubi sealing process is bond to plot a plot hole, anyway. No matter which version they go with they will have to contradict some other facts.
 
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Can't really say that I'm looking forward to that to be honest. The Juubi sealing process is bond to plot a plot hole anyway, no matter which version they go with they will have to contradict some other facts.

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SP writers will be like this in the future. Which one... which one????
 

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SP writers will be like this in the future. Which one... which one????

So true lmao
Unless they decide to make up their own version. That wouldn't even surprise me at this point.
 

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I make it simple for the *underline* part.

Neither me nor you knew about Kishi off panel involvement. OK I understood.

I dont care if this filler tie/fills up the manga story line.

But dont make any discussions here like what they did in Anime is a canon fact or what actually happen to them.

Other source that can support all thing inside the story be it manga/anime as canon is Databooks.

I will wait for new Databbook that saying hagoromo have Sharingan etc etc.

Fair enough man.
 

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If Studio Perriot created Kaguya whats the point in denying this filler when she is basucally filler villian

I don't think that matters. Studio Perriot has created several characters that aren't considered canon because you never see them in the manga or anything that Kishi is specifically involved in. Even if Kaguya was created by someone else, Kishi wrote her into the actual manga and made her an official Naruto character
 

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Yes it's two separate KKG's but you can't evolve a Sharingan unless you have Hagoromo's chakra. With Kishi and portrayals do you really think Hamura who had Byakugan and later on Tenseigan. Was weaker than Hagoromo who had Rinnegan his whole life?

Sharingan was a result of having half of Hagoromo's chakra but Hagoromo had his full Rinnegan chakra from the start hence why I'm saying he would have skipped Sharingan and go straight to Rinnegan.

I don't believe Hamura was weaker in fact I think they had a similar growth in power like Indra and Ashura, Hamura would have been slightly stronger at first because he was born with Byakugan like Hyuga, then Hagoromo awakened Rinnegan and they were equal.
 

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You're happy to get something we haven't seen in the manga, regardless of whether or not it comes from Kishi himself.

I feel you bro. I got you the first time. I ain't mad at you. I don't even watch the anime, but Im watching the Kaguya fillers. Know why? Because I was happy to get some backstory on Kaguya. I understand where you coming from. It doesn't have to be canon for me to enjoy it and feel somewhat fulfilled from it. Kishi left me with a lot of questions, and I just like seeing how they could be pieced together.

But again, I don't have to feel like the anime is canon, in order for me to appreciate the anime. That's all I'm saying. Canon material is canon material because we KNOW it involves the creator of the story. We KNOW the anime creators can and will deviate slightly from the manga, in ways that can and will alter plot and events slightly to fit the ANIME, not the manga. If people feel like they don't want to take the anime at face value you can't blame them. Meanwhile you over here all butthurt and in your feelz about the questions Kishi didn't answer for you in the manga, and how he spent too much time on Rin....

Inb4 you tell me "take a seat"

Just chill tf out bro. Relax

If i am getting something in the anime that serves to improve the manga then yeah i dont mind that. if its just some BS filler then obviously i aint feelin it. As you said you havnt been watching whereas i have so like the Kaguya filler, the Itachi filler and Kakashi filler also served to develop the plot. Believe it or not SP has been working with Kishi for over ten years so they would have some idea as to his writing and his characters.

Now back to the point: you are entitled to your opinion. What makes you think i am bothered? you thinking i am 'butthurt' because you have a different opinion to myself?? Lmao you got the wrong guy there.

And regarding me telling you to take a seat (which you obviously didnt like being told as you have mentioned it twice bro...) Thats what happens when you start a conversation with someone like this:

So what I'm getting out of this colorful waterfall of text you call a post...

You can take a seat. Several.
 
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Sharingan was a result of having half of Hagoromo's chakra but Hagoromo had his full Rinnegan chakra from the start hence why I'm saying he would have skipped Sharingan and go straight to Rinnegan.

I don't believe Hamura was weaker in fact I think they had a similar growth in power like Indra and Ashura, Hamura would have been slightly stronger at first because he was born with Byakugan like Hyuga, then Hagoromo awakened Rinnegan and they were equal.
Hagoromo was the elder brother. By Kishimoto's portrayals the elder brother always start out stronger and a genius.(excluding Hashirama and Madara)
By your logic Hamura was stronger than Hagoromo nearly their whole life until Hagoromo awakened Rinnegan. Which would mean once Hamura awakened Tenseigan he became stronger until Hagoromo became JJ.
 

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First of all his eye isn't bayakugan the reason is he always asked Hamura to help him out with the bayakugan.
Which means his eyes isn't a bayakugan its just his alien eyes normal.

Hagoromo activating the sharingan makes sense because They say from Sharingan to Rennigan. A manga fact

Till now there are no inconsistencies with this filler haters please stop...

delete your account then slit your wrists str8 up the river & deep on camera for those closest to you to see.
 

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If i am getting something in the anime that serves to improve the manga then yeah i dont mind that. if its just some BS filler then obviously i aint feelin it. As you said you havnt been watching whereas i have so like the Kaguya filler, the Itachi filler and Kakashi filler also served to develop the plot. Believe it or not SP has been working with Kishi for over ten years so they would have some idea as to his writing and his characters.

Now back to the point: you are entitled to your opinion. What makes you think i am bothered? you thinking i am 'butthurt' because you have a different opinion to myself?? Lmao you got the wrong guy there.

And regarding me telling you to take a seat (which you obviously didnt like being told as you have mentioned it twice bro...) Thats what happens when you start a conversation with someone like this:



You can take a seat. Several.

Alright man you got it.
 
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