About Hagoromo's eyes

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First of all his eye isn't bayakugan the reason is he always asked Hamura to help him out with the bayakugan.
Which means his eyes isn't a bayakugan its just his alien eyes normal.

Hagoromo activating the sharingan makes sense because They say from Sharingan to Rennigan. A manga fact

Till now there are no inconsistencies with this filler haters please stop...
 

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Filler isn't manga fact. Hagoromo only had a Rinnegan in the manga.
 

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let's just wait what the anime team will do about Indra's eyes and fit the puzzle pieces together then.
 

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Gotta love Thursdays, everyone starts spamming crap about fillers after each episode airs :th:
 

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Filler isn't manga fact. Hagoromo only had a Rinnegan in the manga.

But its manga fact that Rinnegan is the evolutionary end for Sharingan.

And all Otsutsuki have clear eyes like that. Kinshiki didnt even have byakugan even though he had clear eyes as well. Those clear eyes are Otsutsuki standard


It makes no sense to be born Overpowered. No one is.

Indra wasnt born with Mangekyou.
Hamura wasnt born with Tenseigan.
Tailed Beasts were babies and grew to be strong.

All these are powers you have to awaken.
 
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Gotta love Thursdays, everyone starts spamming crap about fillers after each episode airs :th:

Not like these episodes. I never seen any of the episodes so controversial and disputed as these episodes
 

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It's evolutionary because Indra inherited his father's dojutsu genes. it's no different to Hagoromo inheriting RinneSharingan genes, it doesn't mean his eyes would naturally evolve into Kaguya's.

I added more stuff to my post
 

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But its manga fact that Rinnegan is the evolutionary end for Sharingan.

And all Otsutsuki have clear eyes like that. Kinshiki didnt even have byakugan even though he had clear eyes as well. Those clear eyes are Otsutsuki standard


It makes no sense to be born Overpowered. No one is.

Indra wasnt born with Mangekyou.
Hamura wasnt born with Tenseigan.
Tailed Beasts were babies and grew to be strong.

All these are powers you have to awaken.

Wouldn't Rinne Sharingan be the last of the sharigan when the third eye awakes ?
 

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But its manga fact that Rinnegan is the evolutionary end for Sharingan.

And all Otsutsuki have clear eyes like that. Kinshiki didnt even have byakugan even though he had clear eyes as well. Those clear eyes are Otsutsuki standard


It makes no sense to be born Overpowered. No one is.

Indra wasnt born with Mangekyou.
Hamura wasnt born with Tenseigan.
Tailed Beasts were babies and grew to be strong.

All these are powers you have to awaken.

I never said they're born overpowered, but BZ clearly stated he awakened Rinnegan, not a Sharingan. When Hagoromo talks about Indra he doesn't say "Indra was born with my eyes" he makes the distinction between their dojutsu by saying "he was born with powerful eyes".

The Sharingan is evolutionary because Indra inherited his father's dojutsu genes which happen to be the genes for RinneSharingan. But Indra had a Sharingan because he didn't have the chakra for Rinnegan in the first place, as a result he awakened a further devolved state of Kaguya's eye.

In contrast Hagoromo had the chakra for Rinnegan so he would have awakened a Rinnegan directly instead of having to go through Sharingan stages. He would have gone from standard Otsutsuki eyes to Rinnegan.
 

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Wouldn't Rinne Sharingan be the last of the sharigan when the third eye awakes ?

Naw thats a whole nother eyes in and of itself. Technically Hago should've awakened it after becoming juubi jin. Guess he never stared at the moon lol
 

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I never said they're born overpowered, but BZ clearly stated he awakened Rinnegan, not a Sharingan. When Hagoromo talks about Indra he doesn't say "Indra was born with my eyes" he makes the distinction between their dojutsu by saying "he was born with powerful eyes".

The Sharingan is evolutionary because Indra inherited his father's dojutsu genes which happen to be the genes for RinneSharingan. But Indra had a Sharingan because he didn't have the chakra for Rinnegan in the first place, as a result he awakened a further devolved state of Kaguya's eye.

In contrast Hagoromo had the chakra for Rinnegan so he would have awakened a Rinnegan directly instead of having to go through Sharingan stages. He would have gone from standard Otsutsuki eyes to Rinnegan.

I get you bro trust me I do. But I coulda sworn that Black Zetsu said he was born with "my eyes".

It just never made sense to be born with a Rinnegan or Sharingan to begin with, when they both have to be awakened and activated.

As for the evolutionary part, it could go either way. Black Zetsu was so sure that Sharingan would become Rinnegan. How do you explain that?
 

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Whatever the case.. BZ is a f**king lie because he aint around or hasn't been shown in the episodes to know what Hogoromo had or how Hogoromo got his Rinne.

That black goo got alot of folks takin like zetsu is all knowing. He don't know sh*t so please stop quoting the black goo like he is the creator....

According to the manga.. Zetsu was born/created right before Kaguya was sealed away. He know nothing of the time before the fight between mother & sons. He guided half NB along with the Uchiha's astray.

Gullible fools!
 

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I never said they're born overpowered, but BZ clearly stated he awakened Rinnegan, not a Sharingan. When Hagoromo talks about Indra he doesn't say "Indra was born with my eyes" he makes the distinction between their dojutsu by saying "he was born with powerful eyes".

The Sharingan is evolutionary because Indra inherited his father's dojutsu genes which happen to be the genes for RinneSharingan. But Indra had a Sharingan because he didn't have the chakra for Rinnegan in the first place, as a result he awakened a further devolved state of Kaguya's eye.

In contrast Hagoromo had the chakra for Rinnegan so he would have awakened a Rinnegan directly instead of having to go through Sharingan stages. He would have gone from standard Otsutsuki eyes to Rinnegan.
Stop being stubborn and denying MANGA FACTS , you contradicted yourself . You said black zetsu said he awakened the rennigan which means he had a sharingan first and u say its filler . Please stfu filler hater trying to pick anything to make it seem a plothole!!!
 

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Whatever the case.. BZ is a f**king lie because he aint around or hasn't been shown in the episodes to know what Hogoromo had or how Hogoromo got his Rinne.

That black goo got alot of folks takin like zetsu is all knowing. He don't know sh*t so please stop quoting the black goo like he is the creator....

According to the manga.. Zetsu was born/created right before Kaguya was sealed away. He know nothing of the time before the fight between mother & sons. He guided half NB along with the Uchiha's astray.

Gullible fools!

All BZ is is some of her chakra in the form of being so wouldn't be possible that he has her memories since in reality he's really just a piece of her
 

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Everyone saying the fillers arent manga fact. Some people saying it simply because they like to say it and are being stubborn.

We are not talking about Road to TenTen here. Or the filler we had to endure when Naruto was on his way to train on Turtle Island. We are not talking about the Ninja Ostrich.

Some filler are to be seen as Canon, as it is an indisputable that Kishi presented us with many plotholes and unanswered questions during his writing of the manga and subsequent running out of time.

So the Itachi 'filler' or the Itachi backstory.
Or the Kaguya 'filler' or the Kaguya backstory.
Itachi in Anbu.

These things have been included specifically for the purpose of rectifying the plotholes that kishi was not able to fill owing to the fact that he ran out of time. How do you know he is not the one helping Studio Perriot with the ideas in these backstories?

Hagoromo had the Sharingan. It makes perfect sense. He later gained the Rinnegan. He also studied and was taught Frog Sage Mode. - even in that sense things are being explained and loose ends/plot holes being tied up.

I am really enjoying this backstory actually.

But i find people on here make me laugh at the same time. I read on so many threads (before the end of the manga) people on here saying "What about the History of the Sage!" and "What about Itachis Story!" as well as "What about what happened to the Uzumakis!!" and many said they'd be cool if these things would be explained even after the ending of the manga.

But now you are getting some explanations you are still complaining, even though it is being presented in such a good way.

Yaaawwn. People just being stubborn now. You are getting the answers you had asked for!

I am not a fan of fillers either! But at least i can see when it serves develop the plot itself. Its basically Canon, hence SP's timing in providing the backstories to us.
 
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Everyone saying the fillers arent manga fact. Some people saying it simply because they like to say it and are being stubborn.

We are not talking about Road to TenTen here. Or the filler we had to endure when Naruto was on his way to train on Turtle Island. We are not talking about the Ninja Ostrich.

Some filler are to be seen as Canon, as it is an indisputable that Kishi presented us with many plotholes and unanswered questions during his writing of the manga and subsequent running out of time.

So the Itachi 'filler' or the Itachi backstory.
Or the Kaguya 'filler' or the Kaguya backstory.
Itachi in Anbu.

These things have been included specifically for the purpose of rectifying the plotholes that kishi was not able to fill owing to the fact that he ran out of time. How do you know he is not the one helping Studio Perriot with the ideas in these backstories?


Hagoromo had the Sharingan. It makes perfect sense. He later gained the Rinnegan. He also studied and was taught Frog Sage Mode. - even in that sense things are being explained and loose ends/plot holes being tied up.

I am really enjoying this backstory actually.

But i find people on here make me laugh at the same time. I read on so many threads (before the end of the manga) people on here saying "What about the History of the Sage!" and "What about Itachis Story!" as well as "What about what happened to the Uzumakis!!" and many said they'd be cool if these things would be explained even after the ending of the manga.

But now you are getting some explanations you are still complaining, even though it is being presented in such a good way.

Yaaawwn. People just being stubborn now. You are getting the answers you had asked for!

I am not a fan of fillers either! But at least i can see when it serves develop the plot itself. Its basically Canon, hence SP's timing in providing the backstories to us.

@Underline. I can turn that statement the other way.

Another stupid ass post that I need to counter.

We dont want back story from SP, we want Back story from Kishi in manga.

You're just wasting your time typing all this
 
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It's filler!!! Manga confirmed yin + yang sage chakra = rinnegan! Until the manga confirms your statement it's just fan fic filler.
 

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I get you bro trust me I do. But I coulda sworn that Black Zetsu said he was born with "my eyes".

It just never made sense to be born with a Rinnegan or Sharingan to begin with, when they both have to be awakened and activated.

As for the evolutionary part, it could go either way. Black Zetsu was so sure that Sharingan would become Rinnegan. How do you explain that?

BZ was sure because Indra had the genes for RinneSharingan like Hagoromo, they both had potential for Kaguya's dojutsu but they each inherited a separate half of her eye power.

I agree it doesn't make sense that either of them are born with dojutsu like Hyuga but I don't agree he awakened Sharingan because he had the chakra for Rinnegan so his eyes would have skipped the Sharingan phase and evolve straight into a Rinnegan.
 
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