[Debate] Abortion: do you agree with it?

[Punk Hazard]

You think that is right for the baby? Why should the woman be forced to carry a rape baby with her for 9 months and be constantly reminded of the incident? Not to mention, if the rapist had mental/physical issues or disorders (including psychopathy for example) there's a chance the baby could inherit those conditions.

Ask how many women that were raped if they forgot it. Have an abortion, don't have an abortion, either way, you're still gonna be traumatized, and you were still raped. Not to sound cruel or insensitive, but what I'm saying is, having an abortion won't undo the rape, that's still something you're gonna have to live with. Many women have regregeted having abortions, what if now they have to live with the trauma of being raped, and the regret and guilt of having an abortion?

You also mentioned "is that right for the baby", well, is it right for the baby to be aborted? Is it right for the baby to have their life taken away for circumstances, actions and feelings it had no control over, no part of, no responsibility for?

 

[The Dreamer]

Well that is complete lies.

What I meant to say is proven. I may have messed up with the word "sentiment" since I probably used it in the wrong way. What I meant to say is that it's alive from that moment.

 

[Fuzzy Panda]

It was proven that it is sentinent from the moment it's "fertilised".

Haha no it wasn't. Where did you get that information from? They aren't sentient from fertilization.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

What I meant to say is proven. I may have messed up with the word "sentiment" since I probably used it in the wrong way. What I meant to say is that it's alive from that moment.

What does it mean to be alive?

 

[rollin]

I'd be a hypocrite if i agree with abortion
I don't care how I'm conceived I want to grow and live to my full potential as long as I can

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

I'd be a hypocrite if i agree with abortion
I don't care how I'm conceived I want to grow and live to my full potential as long as I can

But having a baby would deny a woman's potential so aren't you being hypocritical by disagreeing with abortion here?

 

[The Dreamer]

What does it mean to be alive?

Now I know you're a troll in search of a hot thread. You're just trying to drag your own discussion to a bunch of different topics. In no time it's gonna turn into a bash thread. (It already has tough.)

 

[paratise]

I believe it can be allowed in certain conditions.

People say it is "murder" but even murder is acceptable in certain occurances. It is not all black and white.

I can understand why a 16 year old, a rape victim, someone with health issues should get an abortion. But getting an abortion just because baby was unplanned is stupid. But when things get black and white burocracy will get involved to figure out what is right and wrong, regarding to something like pregnancy getting permission to get abortion might be too late. So, it should be allowed. I believe there are more people to get abortion because they need it compared to the ones who get it for lulz.

 

[BlazeRelease]

The first post just decided my thoughts on this.
"Free will is more important than life"
I finally understand my viewpoint on this now, I think abortion is up to the mother.

I have been trying to understand things like these, and was always caught inbetween with answers, but now I have decided.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Do you agree with my first (and previously only) comment on this thread? I feel like that is your general stance as well.

Yeah I do. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that abortion is never reasonable, or never acceptable. Even with the rare cases though, such as defects, there are grey areas. What about false positives, babies that are diagnosed to be born with a defect, and end up fine, or with a minor form of the defect that allow them to live, for the most part, normal lives? What about people with severe birth defects that continue to live, that choose to continue life? That shows not everyone with defects would prefer to have died and never gotten life. Lotta grey areas.

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

You really want hot threads.

OT: It's not much of a debate. Abortion is morally wrong.

 

[tywahu]

It's a fetus, it's simply a parasite. It doesn't do anything. It can't do anything. It's only a bunch of cells multiplying. You know what's even funnier? That in good ol' Merica! people are saying abortion is murder, but don't care that deathrow still exists and that they sent tons of soldiers to die in foreign countries. I'm not generalizing Merica as a hole, but... Republicans... Anywho, I think it's the choice of the mother. If they aren't physically, financially or mentally ready, why should we stop 'em? Not only that, a fetus doesn't even have a consciousness. The fetus is also growing in the mother's womb and sucking in the mother's food, the mother is keeping it in life. If the mother is facing health issues because of this, I say she should have the option to abort.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

It's a fetus, it's simply a parasite. It doesn't do anything. It can't do anything. It's only a bunch of cells multiplying. You know what's even funnier? That in good ol' Merica! people are saying abortion is murder, but don't care that deathrow still exists

Except you know, they put mass murderers on deathrow.

While aborted babies did nothing wrong.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

You really want hot threads.

OT: It's not much of a debate. Abortion is morally wrong.

I'm just bored, and I felt like testing the ability of NB to think freely.

 

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[Chie]

I don't. It's murder, no matter how you look at it.

People who are pro abortion don't really bother me, but I don't like it when they excuse what it really is. It's murder, and if you're okay with that, then that's just how it is.​

This is exactly my view of it.

ot: Regardless of whether the person having the baby was raped or whatever (90% of the time, they weren't. The were just being irresponsible.), they shouldn't abort. That still is a human life. They should just put the kid up for adoption if they're that obsessed with not taking responsibility for it.

 

[ByakuganUser]

I think that the woman should choose if she wants to have a baby or not. Why should anybody decide that for her?!

 

[tywahu]

You really want hot threads.

OT: It's not much of a debate. Abortion is morally wrong.

No it's not. That's Bulls***. Your morality differs from every person, so you can't say something is morally right. I have other moral standards than you, it's a subjective matter. NOT an objective one.

 

[tywahu]

Except you know, they put mass murderers on deathrow.

While aborted babies did nothing wrong.

Murdering the murderer. Great.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Now I know you're a troll in search of a hot thread. You're just trying to drag your own discussion to a bunch of different topics. In no time it's gonna turn into a bash thread. (It already has tough.)

No I'm just saying you are wrong in saying that at the point of fertilization it has been proven that an egg is 'alive'.

And you know why I can say that? It's because philosophers, scholars, scientists etc can't even agree on what constitutes being alive.