[Spoilers] A very interesting chapter.

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[Theory] A very interesting chapter.

Now that I saw the mechanics behind Gai's restoration and now Kakashi's eye, I can undoubtely say that Naruto is a wielder of the Banbutsu Sōzō.

That leaves Sasuke having the ability to destroy and recreate...

Any thoughts about this?
 
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care to explain further, please? Lol
 

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care to explain further, please? Lol

This is creation of all things:-

"The Creation of All Things (万物創造, Banbutsu Sōzō) was an ability possessed by Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki.The process he used is explained to have initially involved the administration of imagination, and the spiritual energy which forms the basis of Yin chakra to create physical forms from nothingness. Then, through the application of vitality, and the physical energy which forms the basis of Yang chakra, he would breathe life into the resulting creations.

In other words,You can do anything by using Banbutsu Sozo thats why naruto was keep saying that he can do anything."


According to Narutowiki:-

The Creation of All Things (万物創造, Banbutsu Sōzō) was an ability possessed by Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki, who used this to create the nine tailed beasts.

SO6P created 9 beasts from juubi and now we can argue that SO6P only used the YANG release as he didnt created 9 beasts from nothingness.

SO6P created 9 beasts from Juubi!! and breathe life into 9 beasts.

Similarly,Kakashi's eye doesn't exist.Naruto took a chakra of kakashi to regenerate that eye and breathe life into it.

Naruto's words are clearly indicates towards COAT



OT:- I agree U_U

Naruto represents Body of SO6P
Sasuke represents Eye of SO6P

They dont represent Yin and Yang Releases.

Sasuke has Rinnegan which is the combination of Yin and Yang.

Similarly goes to naruto.
 

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Now that I saw the mechanics behind Gai's restoration and now Kakashi's eye, I can undoubtely say that Naruto is a wielder of the Banbutsu Sōzō.

That leaves Sasuke having the ability to destroy and recreate...

Any thoughts about this?

No you can't say that.

Yang release into Kakashi's orbit could give huge life force to his optical nerves and make them grow a new eye.

I you know that it's not only Yang power , then explain why.
P.S.:I know how COAT works.
 

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No you can't say that.

Yang release into Kakashi's orbit could give huge life force to his optical nerves and make them grow a new eye.

I you know that it's not only Yang power , then explain why.
P.S.:I know how COAT works.

If Naruto revived Kakashi's injured eye then we can say that that was Yang Release but naruto created a new eye and breathe life into it which is combination of Yin and Yang.
 

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This is creation of all things:-

"The Creation of All Things (万物創造, Banbutsu Sōzō) was an ability possessed by Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki.The process he used is explained to have initially involved the administration of imagination, and the spiritual energy which forms the basis of Yin chakra to create physical forms from nothingness. Then, through the application of vitality, and the physical energy which forms the basis of Yang chakra, he would breathe life into the resulting creations.

In other words,You can do anything by using Banbutsu Sozo thats why naruto was keep saying that he can do anything."


According to Narutowiki:-

The Creation of All Things (万物創造, Banbutsu Sōzō) was an ability possessed by Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki, who used this to create the nine tailed beasts.

SO6P created 9 beasts from juubi and now we can argue that SO6P only used the YANG release as he didnt created 9 beasts from nothingness.

SO6P created 9 beasts from Juubi!! and breathe life into 9 beasts.

Similarly,Kakashi's eye doesn't exist.Naruto took a chakra of kakashi to regenerate that eye and breathe life into it.

Naruto's words are clearly indicates towards COAT



OT:- I agree U_U

Naruto represents Body of SO6P
Sasuke represents Eye of SO6P

They dont represent Yin and Yang Releases.

Sasuke has Rinnegan which is the combination of Yin and Yang.

Similarly goes to naruto.

Thanks for elaborating. You got my point instantly. You have great analytical skills.

No you can't say that.

Yang release into Kakashi's orbit could give huge life force to his optical nerves and make them grow a new eye.

I you know that it's not only Yang power , then explain why.
P.S.:I know how COAT works.

Lifeforce? No problemo, Naruto is currently the Avatar of Ashura and also he is an Uzumaki, making of him someone with a special chakra type, rich in lifeforce.

Shape from nothingness? We have to remember that Naruto is currently holding the Yin half of Kurama, meaning that all the features related to imagination and mind were improved (Check Sasuke's Dogma - chapter 462 -, and also check the Forbidden Technique - chapter 510 -). You'll notice that Yin powers are tightly related to imagination, mind and spiritual energy.

So you're essentially right. Naruto used COAT, but the sources of his powers were not only from the Yang type. He also inherited the powers of the Yin half of Kurama.
 

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Thanks for elaborating. You got my point instantly. You have great analytical skills.



Lifeforce? No problemo, Naruto is currently the Avatar of Ashura and also he is an Uzumaki, making of him someone with a special chakra type, rich in lifeforce.

Shape from nothingness? We have to remember that Naruto is currently holding the Yin half of Kurama, meaning that all the features related to imagination and mind were improved (Check Sasuke's Dogma - chapter 462 -, and also check the Forbidden Technique - chapter 510 -). You'll notice that Yin powers are tightly related to imagination, mind and spiritual energy.

So you're essentially right. Naruto used COAT, but the sources of his powers were not only from the Yang type. He also inherited the powers of the Yin half of Kurama.

thanks dude and you explained it well

BTW even narutowikia shows that naruto now have Yin-Yang Release(COAT)

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Thanks for elaborating. You got my point instantly. You have great analytical skills.



Lifeforce? No problemo, Naruto is currently the Avatar of Ashura and also he is an Uzumaki, making of him someone with a special chakra type, rich in lifeforce.

Shape from nothingness? We have to remember that Naruto is currently holding the Yin half of Kurama, meaning that all the features related to imagination and mind were improved (Check Sasuke's Dogma - chapter 462 -, and also check the Forbidden Technique - chapter 510 -). You'll notice that Yin powers are tightly related to imagination, mind and spiritual energy.

So you're essentially right. Naruto used COAT, but the sources of his powers were not only from the Yang type. He also inherited the powers of the Yin half of Kurama.



Naruto having Yin Kurama doesn't mean he has Yin release.
I didn't say you were wrong , but I said you cant be sure.

I asked you to tell me why do you know (cause you seem to) that it's not only Yang release , and you kept telling me that your theory is probable...
Will I have to tell you another time that another thing is also probable?

PS:My PS didn't work...You found the need to "explain" me obvious things...
 

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Naruto having Yin Kurama doesn't mean he has Yin release.
I didn't say you were wrong , but I said you cant be sure.

I asked you to tell me why do you know (cause you seem to) that it's not only Yang release , and you kept telling me that your theory is probable...
Will I have to tell you another time that another thing is also probable?

PS:My PS didn't work...You found the need to "explain" me obvious things...

I need to add the Theory tag it seems, because as you're stating (with a kind of mislead term), I'm stating a possibility (not a probability).

Now, you have a valid point: "How am I so sure?"

Kakashi didn't feel anything new before opening his eye (there was not even a sign), meaning that Naruto didn't just give life to Kakashi's lifeless flesh in order to create the eye (Kakashi would have felt something if this was the case). Naruto created a new eye from nothingness.

How can you explain this if not by COAT?
 

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Re: [Theory] A very interesting chapter.

Now that I saw the mechanics behind Gai's restoration and now Kakashi's eye, I can undoubtely say that Naruto is a wielder of the Banbutsu Sōzō.

That leaves Sasuke having the ability to destroy and recreate...

Any thoughts about this?

Whats destroy and recreate ability? isnt creation=create?how can sasuke have both or did i miss something?
 

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Re: [Theory] A very interesting chapter.

Whats destroy and recreate ability? isnt creation=create?how can sasuke have both or did i miss something?

...Izanagi. His Rinnegan has a strange ability that reminds me about Izanagi.
 

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Re: [Theory] A very interesting chapter.

...Izanagi. His Rinnegan has a strange ability that reminds me about Izanagi.
Ahh but that's temporary unlike Naruto but i see and wasnt his rinnegans ability all about teleporting.
 

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Re: [Theory] A very interesting chapter.

Ahh but that's temporary unlike Naruto but i see and wasnt his rinnegans ability all about teleporting.

I'm not so sure about the ability behind Sasuke, but teleporting seems way too... weak (We already have Kamui and FTG, which are abilities that are not limited like Sasuke's technique which uses his tomoes). I can't believe Sasuke is 'just' teleporting.
 

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BTW even narutowikia shows that naruto now have Yin-Yang Release(COAT)

By your logic Kakashi is able to use Raiton no Yoroi because he has mastered the Seishitsuhenka Raiton. And Danzō would be able to use Banbutsu Sōzō because he has Inyōton. Izanagi is a variation of Banbutsu Sōzō, which base on Inyōton, the YYR, but that doesn't mean the user of Izanagi could use BS as well.
 
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I think Naruto has displayed the ability of restoration not creation. Similar to Hashi being able to regenerate but he can use it to others regen others also. He's pretty much Oro now except he's a true sage and 10jin so his chakra is also nature's chakra. OMG think of if he gave out more chakra cloaks.
 

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Naruto kept saying that he can "do anything." So maybe it is that.
 

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Kakashi didn't feel anything new before opening his eye (there was not even a sign), meaning that Naruto didn't just give life to Kakashi's lifeless flesh in order to create the eye (Kakashi would have felt something if this was the case). Naruto created a new eye from nothingness.

How can you explain this if not by COAT?

Yang release into Kakashi's orbit could give huge life force to his optical nerves and make them grow a new eye.
There are also other scenaris that could make Naruto's ability a Yang release.

You could be right , but if so , I have one question for you:
What will be Madara's power-up if Naruto already has the ultimate jutsu?

Madara's power-up has to make him able to compete with team 7 , that power up has to be COAT , what else?
If Naruto has COAT , Madara doesn't stand a chance against team 7.
 

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Can't see it being COAT but he did create a new eye from nothing so who knows you have a point.
 
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