[Suggestion] A Suggestion that most of you won't like

[-Broly-]

One more thing everything on here isnt that philosphical. I went through my base 5 training relatively fast. Did I make mistakes due to this? Yeah. And the mistakes in jutsu usage went on for about a month or two. However i learned from all those mistakes and corrected the problem. Do i wish that i had taken longer so that I wouldnt have made those mistakes? Never ever.

 

[Baldy]

Sorry, but I must disagree.
I don't think Sensei's are definitively obliged to have a senpai, nor actually train you.

A senpai is quintessentially known as somebody who works for the sensei, under he/she's guidance. A senpai is the responsibility of the sensei. Sensei's who choose their Senpai have to guarantee that the Senpai knows what he/she is doing, and of course, you can't blame the sensei's for not wanting such responsibilities, especially if they can cope with the teaching.
I think most sensei's would want a senpai, if they were only adequately capable. Imagine having a sidekick who's supposed to help you but only ends up giving you more hassle and troubles - How good, would it feel?
Sensei's are busy, and whilst they are entrusted with the duty to teach, they are not obliged to do so. And getting a senpai whom they do not trust could simply add to their list of worries. I don't actually agree with it being a requirement for every sensei to have a senpai.

Nobody is obliged to take their time off in the day to train you, nobody is. Respect the sensei's, because they're actually doing you a favor, and instead of bitching and whining about how there ain't enough helping you, maybe you should just shut up and appreciate what others have done for you.
Those, who whine about training, I plead you, to think about your expectations on the swiftness of how your training should go. You expect your training to be done, all, so quickly? And when it's going a little too slowly, you complain about the system, when in fact, unpaid people, are spending time to help you?
Bit stupid, really. The root of this basically stems from the expectancy of getting your training be done within weeks. Pardon me, but perhaps alter your expectations, and you'll find the RP much more enjoyable.
You don't have to get your training done so quickly. Let others have a chance.
Tone down that implacable hunger of yours for training, and wait.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Damn Mcrazor seem a bit mad. But to ease ur mind

1Tail(Dog-Racoon)-Gaara-Sand
2tail(Cat)-forgot her name-Blue flames, cat-like abilities
3tail(my fav. Turtle)-yagura-coral attacks. Mastery of water
4tails (Ape) Roushi-lava
5tails(Goat-Dolphin) Han -steam(for Han) poison horns for the beast
Don't wanna go further. It's easy

Overall... Ilike the idea. But against it unfort. We have shisuis for that. But ur right. It's crazy nd I will say it nd not give a damn. Mods str8 lied to me. They started strippen sensei status wen they wanted me off the Senpai table .kimda odd how my sensei was the test subject. Kinda crazy though cause I was then Darui Senpai nd word was... They was gonna "strip" his Sensei status due to lack of teaching. Lol aka. Since we need an excuse to get Teno out let's attack Darui. Nd I know the two ppl who went about it. But last time I checked jinbei was inactive for 4months and didn't teach ever since he taught selendrile but yet he is still a sensei? Lol shows how corrupt they are. I just find it odd that it seems we have so many mods but the rp is being ran exactly how 2certain rp mods want it. Lol ... Kiri is the ONLY active, reasonable higher up rper. Sy too. The rest can learn a thing or two on how to not make NB ur life but a hobby.

Not only that. Most ppl kno how to use Justus . U been rping on NB for 1yr with only 1element mastered and ur at safe post? Lol . Yea... He sure is a rookie. Smh

 

[Adachi]

Okay, so I finished my round of threads, so I'll sit down and type my honest opinion about this whole deal.
I, personally, disagree with having senpais. Yes, I have one now, and that's Shinta, my man. By the way, he never asked to become my senpai, I personally approached him because I saw he could be a great sensei and wanted him to have some experience, because now, it seems that being a senpai is like the requirement to become a sensei, which I completely 100% disagree with.

Back then, there was no such thing as senpais. I'm not sure who or when it came up as a new system, but I see senpais as non-colored senseis. If you want to read everything I said about almost two years ago about senpai, here it is.

You must be registered for see links

Gecko's main point here is that he believes the training is going slow, which is true - I myself have slowed down this past month (no excuse really, I have my times where I lose and gain interest in NB, and these two months, I've had school stress as well), and he believes that many of the senseis should take senpais that can help this, and make this a requirement.

I actually can't state whether it's right or wrong to do this, as there are both advantages and disadvantages to this, but the biggest issue here is whether the senpai will teach appropriately, or have enough experience to do so. Like I said earlier, if I offered all of you the chance to automatically master your techniques, more than 90%, no, 99%, of you would take it. Senpais need to be monitored - they're basically the non-colored sensei that hasn't gone through the test yet.

Secondly, I've seen a lot of senseis take a senpai and only teach in Ninjutsu/Kenjutsu, and Genjutsu. This is wrong. Senpais are not an excuse to slack off. I'd rather not there be senpais at all if this becomes a major issue. Senpais are not an excuse for senseis to be lazy. They should be actively monitoring and teaching themselves-....

Ah, crap. Well, time to drive my pissed parents...I'm done here.

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

I think it'd be a good idea for all sensei to have sempai, but what if the sensei isn't comfortable enough with anyone's teaching ability to choose a sempai, some people have higher standards then others.

 

[Cursed Prince]

I agree and disagree at the same time, so ill split them up

Agree: I agree with this point because yes it would be a good idea, lately a few new senpais instantly put on the profile"im not accepting a senpai" and the simple question i ask is why? why not have a senpai? I know some sensei claim they "check" their senpais training but i honestly think thats a load of bs and just a scare tactic. But even then that doesnt answer the "Why?" question as to why sensei dont take senpai, i myself dont know so making them take a senpai is a good idea for this fact, unless and sensei without a senpai and doesnt want a senpai cant post on here a valid reason beside"i dont want one" then my agreement may change, but at this point i completely agree making sensei take on senpai isnt that unreasonable.

Disagree: Now this is the part where i disagree with your statement,what you're saying is exactly the same as, say custom jutsu's and elements, the position of a senpai, a cust jutsu or element belongs to the owner, who in this case is the sensei. They own the right to that position of senpai and you cant just "Force" someone to take or do something they dont want to without a valid reason. Itd be the same as making them teach their jutsu's and elements, it belongs to them and no one can force them.

Now to add to another point, a suggestion id like to add. Sensei that only teach in their village like Shuusai(yeah im not worried about naming names). A sensei that got his orange back/came back from inactivity, and then only trained people in sunagakure. I suggest making it so that each sensei has to have at least 1 other person from another village or no village at all, teaching only in your village sounds almost, to me that is against some sort of unwritten rule. Sounds to me like its just favouring your village to get stronger, which to me sounds exactly like holding a tournament every week so you're village members get permissions faster to improve their village power.

Now onto my second thing which, unfortunatly involves Zanji(no offence to the guy at all). I read earlier that Zanji was given his orange back due to him coming back, but can someone show me where he has accually training anybody? i mean he is never accepting students and ive never seen his name show up in training grounds since i knew of his exsistance. So my second suggestion is that if a sensei doesnt show some form of training each month then their orange should be stripped, because in all honesty if you have orange and arnt training your wasting space and time by having that color on your name, almost like its a status symbol you dont want to work for.

And to finish my rant, i agree with McRazor, im sure Nero and Zanji where some very good sensei back in their day, but just because they come back they shouldnt be given orange back instantly, especially if the sensei test has been changed. If the test was the same then fair enough give them orange back, but many things have changed since their day and even if they can "adapt" from their previous skills they dropped their senseiship, and it shouldnt be a case of "yeah ok ill train gimme back orange" if its dropped it should remained dropped until they complete the sensei test again.

Well thats my opinion on the matter i hope i didnt go to far off topic hahaLol

Shuusai trains people from other villages ~.~ The reason why people like Nero and Zanji were given back the orange, is because we need more senseis, and theyve proven to be more than competent. People like me find it hard to get training, and when we do, its slow as shit XD I started Rp'ing before you. I even remember your very first battle, and your first bio. Now you have 4/5 elements mastered, while I have none mastered. I agree "Certain" Senseis are in it just for dat EMS Madara Bio, or whatever else special you can get. But some have valid reasons not to teach. Scorps and Kiritsugo (Even though he trains 50 people), and other rp mods, for example, because they have other duties. But overall if you're a sensei and you're tired of teaching, just give up the orange. Just let them keep the special sensei bio

 

[The_Empire]

Sensei shouldn't be a sensei and that dang write is bs U_U for not being sensei related which is teaching mainly and making sure the senseis know the rules of battling and teaching.

 

[Yveltal]

I couldn't agree anymore. Then again if a sensei doesn't want a senpai who are we to tell them they must.

 

[Cursed Prince]

Okay, so I finished my round of threads, so I'll sit down and type my honest opinion about this whole deal.
I, personally, disagree with having senpais. Yes, I have one now, and that's Shinta, my man. By the way, he never asked to become my senpai, I personally approached him because I saw he could be a great sensei and wanted him to have some experience, because now, it seems that being a senpai is like the requirement to become a sensei, which I completely 100% disagree with.

Back then, there was no such thing as senpais. I'm not sure who or when it came up as a new system, but I see senpais as non-colored senseis. If you want to read everything I said about almost two years ago about senpai, here it is.

You must be registered for see links

Gecko's main point here is that he believes the training is going slow, which is true - I myself have slowed down this past month (no excuse really, I have my times where I lose and gain interest in NB, and these two months, I've had school stress as well), and he believes that many of the senseis should take senpais that can help this, and make this a requirement.

I actually can't state whether it's right or wrong to do this, as there are both advantages and disadvantages to this, but the biggest issue here is whether the senpai will teach appropriately, or have enough experience to do so. Like I said earlier, if I offered all of you the chance to automatically master your techniques, more than 90%, no, 99%, of you would take it. Senpais need to be monitored - they're basically the non-colored sensei that hasn't gone through the test yet.

Secondly, I've seen a lot of senseis take a senpai and only teach in Ninjutsu/Kenjutsu, and Genjutsu. This is wrong. Senpais are not an excuse to slack off. I'd rather not there be senpais at all if this becomes a major issue. Senpais are not an excuse for senseis to be lazy. They should be actively monitoring and teaching themselves-....

Ah, crap. Well, time to drive my pissed parents...I'm done here.

Read the whole thing. TBH, Youre kinda right. Thats why we should have a sempai test, its not as hard as the sensei test, but its to show they can properly train. Also, the trial student method works well. And as long as a sensei really does check the training threads, sempais should be alright

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Sorry, but I must disagree.
I don't think Sensei's are definitively obliged to have a senpai, nor actually train you.

A senpai is quintessentially known as somebody who works for the sensei, under he/she's guidance. A senpai is the responsibility of the sensei. Sensei's who choose their Senpai have to guarantee that the Senpai knows what he/she is doin
g, and of course, you can't blame the sensei's for not wanting such responsibilities, especially if they can cope with the teaching.
I think most sensei's would want a senpai, if they were only adequately capable. Imagine having a sidekick who's supposed to help you but only ends up giving you more hassle and troubles - How good, would it feel?
Sensei's are busy, and whilst they are entrusted with the duty to teach, they are not obliged to do so. And getting a senpai whom they do not trust could simply add to their list of worries. I don't actually agree with it being a requirement for every sensei to have a senpai.

Nobody is obliged to take their time off in the day to train you, nobody is. Respect the sensei's, because they're actually doing you a favor, and instead of bitching and whining about how there ain't enough helping you, maybe you should just shut up and appreciate what others have done for you.
Those, who whine about training, I plead you, to think about your expectations on the swiftness of how your training should go. You expect your training to be done, all, so quickly? And when it's going a little too slowly, you complain about the system, when in fact, unpaid people, are spending time to help you?
Bit stupid, really. The root of this basically stems from the expectancy of getting your training be done within weeks. Pardon me, but perhaps alter your expectations, and you'll find the RP much more enjoyable.
You don't have to get your training done so quickly. Let others have a chance.
Tone down that implacable hunger of yours for training, and wait.

Lol! So wat ur telling me is... If Vincent disagrees with kiri training technique . He shouldn't have a senpai? There is NO! Wrong way to teach. Everybody have did methods and dif ways to learn. Also. U shouldn't bash ppl cause at one point we was all the person. Well most. Anything wrong with fast training? Whoever said it is is indeed ignorant .

 

[Delta]

Shuusai trains people from other villages ~.~ The reason why people like Nero and Zanji were given back the orange, is because we need more senseis, and theyve proven to be more than competent. People like me find it hard to get training, and when we do, its slow as shit XD I started Rp'ing before you. I even remember your very first battle, and your first bio. Now you have 4/5 elements mastered, while I have none mastered. I agree "Certain" Senseis are in it just for dat EMS Madara Bio, or whatever else special you can get. But some have valid reasons not to teach. Scorps and Kiritsugo (Even though he trains 50 people), and other rp mods, for example, because they have other duties. But overall if you're a sensei and you're tired of teaching, just give up the orange. Just let them keep the special sensei bio

Inch - Overall training
Lysander - NB Taijutsu
Yang - Taijutsu
LonelyAssasin - Taijutsu
Khallil-sama - Ninjutsu
Reaper - Taijutsu
Roju - Toads
Mudo - Water
Alphaqindyas - Taijutsu

Inch is the only person, and he has been there since long before i even joined sunagakure. the rest are all suna members. As for Zanji his "im not taking students yet" message has been there for months... ive never seen him train anybody... as for nero it will be interesting to see how many non suna members jokey asks him not to train. As for my training the only fast training i had was Raiton. My fire earth wind where all 1 technique at a time and took time which i dont mind. To add to your other point i havnt seen a single sensei with a special bio like that except for Lili and her custom ms, but she's more then proved herself a capable rper so she deserves it. Scorps and Kiri should have to teach at all, they swapped orange for blue so their "need" to teach no longer exsists, they do it cause they want to. i agree though if a sensei doesnt want to teach drop the title and stop pretending.

rant over

 

[The Mockingjay]

Although I don't feel it's my place to speak as I'm one of the aforementioned '2 month finishers' I like to give my opinion so will do so in brief here. I've read through every post in this thread and in that time my mind has been changed back and forth between whether I agree or disagree with your original statement. Then I read Baldy's, and I totally agree with everything he has said, as much as I'd like to say that everyone should have to take on a senpai that is simply not the case. The sensei are sensei because they have shown to be the people with the knowledge and the skills to teach the newcomers to the best standards. Be it new test or old the point in the tests are the same, to separate the worthy, from the not. (not saying McRazor is t worthy of senseiship, just couldn't think of a better way to word that.) We also need to remember that when that name goes orange they are not only expected to train people, they become in charge of conducting bio tests and are also bombarded with requests from us that they check our spars and give us a better understanding of what went wrong or if something is wrong. The sensei title stretches way beyond just teaching and I think we need to respect that, they have enough on there plates that we shouldn't be forcing them to watch over their senpai and investing more time from their lives. Yes, it takes a long time to train, yes senpai help this, but it's just something we need to live with and respect. Face it, there are ways of improving that don't involve speeding through the elements.

Songbird. Over and out.

Also just to add, senpai should be personally chosen, all this begging stuff doesn't work for me. The way Lili and Kiri chose, that's how it should be done. (Any other sensei who picked senpai in this way deserve a mention too, however I'm currently unaware of who you are xD )

Meh... Can't decide still... Ignore me.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Ok. Ima say this. Nd pardon my language .

I HATE wen ppl say sense is don't HAVE to teach you. Be lucky their taking time out their day. Blah blah blah.
Fck that! They DO! Have to teach if their name is orange. Last time I checked if I wanna be a mod and a mtf spamming . U telln me it's not my job to infract them? Lol gtfo. A sensei VOLUNTEERS. We don't make you. Now ur orange ur obligated. Same as a senpai. If u want a fancy color name . Buy a dàmn premium. I hate wen ppl say that man. That's like saying a admin don't have to look out for the website seeing that's their main purpose

 

[Bruce Banner]

I think this is a classic issue. The main point is most of the new member who wish to learn 5 Basic element were feeling the training progress are slow.

Senpai's/Shisou system is a good system if managed correctly. Like Kirit said, it should be monitoring by the sensei he work under. So the rule must be determine first like how long a member allowed to become a senpai, 3 month, 6 month ? then he can/allowed to apply a sensei test with his sensei reference along with his senpai (Teaching) results.

 

[Shinobi B]

What if the sempais taught a lesser descript-ed version of the Sensei's trainings.

That way a student may learn most jutsu from his/her sempai making those jutsu they're main used jutsu for regular battle motions.
And when the sensei trains the students it would'nt be as frequent....thus making the jutsu learned from sensei to be those students finisher jutsu.

Thus bringing us to the next idea.
Dividing the students into groups for training.
Teams etc..It may be done already(not sure)...but for training purposes...sempai will teach each student everything...and sensei will teach one of the same jutsu the sempai taught with a more advanced description(possible added perks involved) to one team only.

So if the sempai trains all the students in 20/20 jutsu (Elems varied)
The sensai will train 1/20 of those jutsus (1 of 20) to a team. Thus bringing forth more diversification in peoples jutsu. Rather then eveyone knowing the same and or using the same jutsus as finishers etc etc.....
So if a sensei has 4 teams of 3 (12 students)
Each set of 3 get a diff finisher jutsu.

As did Sasuke learn the chidori
As did Naruto learn the wind rasengan(or which ever one)

Same sensei...diff finisher jutsus

I might just be blowing bubbles here but...meh I like this

 

[Ciberr]

I've been a senpai for not too long now. And I love it. Its something I always wanted to do. Personally its fun. And second, because its beneficial to others. I don't think Sensei should be forced to pick a senpai. But it should be implied that they should. It'll give somebody who could potentially become a sensei experience in teaching. I doubt the sensei would pick somebody with no potential at all. It'll be nothing but beneficial for this RP game of ours.

 

[-Broly-]

Ok. Ima say this. Nd pardon my language .

I HATE wen ppl say sense is don't HAVE to teach you. Be lucky their taking time out their day. Blah blah blah.
Fck that! They DO! Have to teach if their name is orange. Last time I checked if I wanna be a mod and a mtf spamming . U telln me it's not my job to infract them? Lol gtfo. A sensei VOLUNTEERS. We don't make you. Now ur orange ur obligated. Same as a senpai. If u want a fancy color name . Buy a dàmn premium. I hate wen ppl say that man. That's like saying a admin don't have to look out for the website seeing that's their main purpose

Dude this is so right



Also sempai is a requirement to be sensei now.
So if sensei arent picking sempai then we wont have more sempai

 

[Adachi]

I've been a senpai for not too long now. And I love it. Its something I always wanted to do. Personally its fun. And second, because its beneficial to others. I don't think Sensei should be forced to pick a senpai. But it should be implied that they should. It'll give somebody who could potentially become a sensei experience in teaching. I doubt the sensei would pick somebody with no potential at all. It'll be nothing but beneficial for this RP game of ours.

I 100% agree.

I think this is a classic issue. The main point is most of the new member who wish to learn 5 Basic element were feeling the training progress are slow.

Senpai's/Shisou system is a good system if managed correctly. Like Kirit said, it should be monitoring by the sensei he work under. So the rule must be determine first like how long a member allowed to become a senpai, 3 month, 6 month ? then he can/allowed to apply a sensei test with his sensei reference along with his senpai (Teaching) results.

People who want to become senpais are generally monitored now, usually by Vincent or me, so that should be no issue.

Ok. Ima say this. Nd pardon my language .

I HATE wen ppl say sense is don't HAVE to teach you. Be lucky their taking time out their day. Blah blah blah.
Fck that! They DO! Have to teach if their name is orange. Last time I checked if I wanna be a mod and a mtf spamming . U telln me it's not my job to infract them? Lol gtfo. A sensei VOLUNTEERS. We don't make you. Now ur orange ur obligated. Same as a senpai. If u want a fancy color name . Buy a dàmn premium. I hate wen ppl say that man. That's like saying a admin don't have to look out for the website seeing that's their main purpose

Pipe down.
It's clear that there are people who have the orange name and don't teach/slack off/etc., but again, remember that senseis volunteer their real life time to help us out. Any person willing to teach or test for sensei is already a great blessing to this website, and if we (staff), kick people all the time for not teaching, that'd be a huge stress and soon, probably not a lot of people would want to be sensei anymore.
Though I do agree with the fact that a sensei should not retain their orange if they no longer possess the desire to teach. That's a given, but such a thing is hard to control.

Dude this is so right



Also sempai is a requirement to be sensei now.
So if sensei arent picking sempai then we wont have more sempai

I'll try to do something about that "must be senpai before sensei" deal. I personally disagree with it - there are amazing, talented RPers out there that have full potential to be senseis without being senpais beforehand.

 

[Cursed Prince]

Inch - Overall training
Lysander - NB Taijutsu
Yang - Taijutsu
LonelyAssasin - Taijutsu
Khallil-sama - Ninjutsu
Reaper - Taijutsu
Roju - Toads
Mudo - Water
Alphaqindyas - Taijutsu

Inch is the only person, and he has been there since long before i even joined sunagakure. the rest are all suna members. As for Zanji his "im not taking students yet" message has been there for months... ive never seen him train anybody... as for nero it will be interesting to see how many non suna members jokey asks him not to train. As for my training the only fast training i had was Raiton. My fire earth wind where all 1 technique at a time and took time which i dont mind. To add to your other point i havnt seen a single sensei with a special bio like that except for Lili and her custom ms, but she's more then proved herself a capable rper so she deserves it. Scorps and Kiri should have to teach at all, they swapped orange for blue so their "need" to teach no longer exsists, they do it cause they want to. i agree though if a sensei doesnt want to teach drop the title and stop pretending.

rant over

Overall training is the best though

I've been a senpai for not too long now. And I love it. Its something I always wanted to do. Personally its fun. And second, because its beneficial to others. I don't think Sensei should be forced to pick a senpai. But it should be implied that they should. It'll give somebody who could potentially become a sensei experience in teaching. I doubt the sensei would pick somebody with no potential at all. It'll be nothing but beneficial for this RP game of ours.

Then teach me XD haha
But I personally love the direction this thread went. Everyone shared there honest opinions, and no one got mad, or butthurt. I think this is a great accomplishment. + rep for Gecko

 

[Ciberr]

Overall training is the best though

Then teach me XD haha
But I personally love the direction this thread went. Everyone shared there honest opinions, and no one got mad, or butthurt. I think this is a great accomplishment. + rep for Gecko

If you was serious go ahead and link me a training thread lol.