[Game] A Certain Mafia Game #30

Poison

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Both Elmage and Demon must claim.
 

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Third part,


You are saying that Town had better options to shoot instead of demon right?

Let's walk you through the thing I mentioned above again..

Why would the scum team shoot Demon?
(if demon is scum)
Scum would never kill their mate.
(if demon is town)
Scum would never kill a person who got scum read by others.

Would you still say that scum shot him?

Among scum and Town which one do you find more realistic a possibility?


About me not mentioning 3p there doesn't change much of it, besides, if I didn't mention it there, I have mentioned 3p somewhere iirc.

Can you give me one reason why Demon flip has anything to do with me? I can understand Nessos, but why me? Also, it seems like TMI, like you know for a fact that he would flip town and you'd be after me the next day. Oh please, trust me, you chose the wrong person to push. The moment I claim I'll get locked town read and confirmed by other.

@bold: First question is a possibility if scum teammate knows he won't die, if that works, also if not town, a 3P could shoot him too, there are more scenarios, is my logic faulty?
Second, if a player is a threat due to role or ability, he'll be killed, also assuming Demon is town and he gets killed, we won't know much, besides his role, because he's not exactly scum hunting, so we won't have any leads, but if say Shanks or nessos was killed, we can check the thread again to see players they were suspicious of

@Italic: It does, because it seemed you ruled out the possibility, and you only mentioned it after I called you out. You can check

Finally, I'm not sure Demon is town or scum, if you check my sus list he's there, however, here's my theory, I have a feeling you and Ansa are scum buddies, based on your posts, shading him multiple times without actually rallying people to vote for him, also, I felt perhaps you may have targeted demon or is aware of who did, based on your response however, I wasn't sure, so to test my theory, I wanted to know Demon's flip, because my theory fails completely if he's scum.

Also, don't put words in my mouth, I never said Demon is town, so I don't "know for sure" don't misunderstand me please.

Finally, you shouldn't be mad if you're pushed, I see possible scum, I push, it's your duty to confirm to me if you're scum or not, and if you had simply answered my questions initially, instead of shading me, maybe this wouldn't have been dragged. I think I already hinted my flavour btw
 

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Nope it is not. But I do understand your post.

You said


I'm talking about this. You are saying, you are showing it to me but I have been pointing it out since D1.

if you had understood my explanation you won't be showing me my own point.
Show me where you hinted it please, perhaps I did missed it or didn't understand it
 

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@Nessos
What's the meaning of GF? Also, Gunha.

We can lynch Demon, as you said, I and Poison can continue this next DP if I still make it, however, I'll be coming for you and Poison if Demon flips town
 

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I am Sogiita Gunha, I'm a level 5 Esper, I already hinted it to Nessos but he completely missed it
 

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Also, please Poison, stop liking my posts, the popup notification is rather disturbing, and I'm at work
 

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Show me where you hinted it please, perhaps I did missed it or didn't understand it
I'll be quoting everything once I'm on PC? It's hard on phone.
 

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I'll claim D3, I mentioned that earlier. Although I hinted 3 stuffs about my role already.
Fair enough, I think I have an idea what it is anyways
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Also, please Poison, stop liking my posts, the popup notification is rather disturbing, and I'm at work
:sweat: okay. Anyways I'll reply to all the quoting stuff later. I'll read the other long post now.
 

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@Demon now that you're online, can you tell me your reads? Why have you been passive? You realize you're probably going to get lynched if you don't defend yourself right?
 

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@bold: First question is a possibility if scum teammate knows he won't die, if that works, also if not town, a 3P could shoot him too, there are more scenarios, is my logic faulty?
Second, if a player is a threat due to role or ability, he'll be killed, also assuming Demon is town and he gets killed, we won't know much, besides his role, because he's not exactly scum hunting, so we won't have any leads, but if say Shanks or nessos was killed, we can check the thread again to see players they were suspicious of
Ofc if a player has an ability he would get killed. I don't understand why you made this a big deal with scum kill- town kill thing but okay :
If it is by a scum kill then by your theory
-Scum knows Demon role.[If they know his role, they must have checked him, and if they did, they would definitely know his powerlevel as well, and if they knows that and they knows the fact they can't kill higher power levels or stuff why would they still shoot him?]

-say he has a nice role and is very helpful for town [assuming he is not a doc] would town listen to a player who got scum read himself. How would he be a possible threat to scum?

Finally, I'm not sure Demon is town or scum, if you check my sus list he's there, however, here's my theory, I have a feeling you and Ansa are scum buddies, based on your posts, shading him multiple times without actually rallying people to vote for him, also, I felt perhaps you may have targeted demon or is aware of who did, based on your response however, I wasn't sure, so to test my theory, I wanted to know Demon's flip, because my theory fails completely if he's scum.
No. I haven't targeted Demon or Ansa. I have pushed for Ansa lynch last DP, but I'm not pushing for his Lynch because
- he is afk and I do not push afk scum reads hard.
- you are scummier than him.
- your post where you were up for Ansa lynch confused me about him a little.

Also, don't put words in my mouth, I never said Demon is town, so I don't "know for sure" don't misunderstand me please.
I am not putting words in your mouth just simply stating how it seemed from your statement.
Finally, you shouldn't be mad if you're pushed, I see possible scum, I push, it's your duty to confirm to me if you're scum or not, and if you had simply answered my questions initially, instead of shading me, maybe this wouldn't have been dragged. I think I already hinted my flavour btw
First, I'm not at all mad. It is the way I go with my scum reads, I push them hard.


You say, Demon is in your sus list, but the fact you are pushing that Demon was possibly shot by the scum says otherwise and it makes your read on him as town, cause scum won't be shooting scum right, if not 3p. Basically you are not scum reading him.
 

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I am Sogiita Gunha, I'm a level 5 Esper, I already hinted it to Nessos but he completely missed it
I don't know the Manga nor the Anime.
Only looked up stuff regarding my flavour and claims I won't get a single hint.

I can only make sure if a claim feels accurate or not by checking wikia.
 

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Powerlvl Claims so far

Living player
  • Shanks - Saint
  • Rej - lvl 5 #1
  • Alice - lvl 5 #5
  • Elmage - lvl 5 #7
  • Johan - lvl 3 (maybe boost to lvl 6 possible)
  • Nessos - lvl 0
Dead player
  • Hotarou - Professional (Saint when using kill shot)
  • Aether V1 - lvl 3
 

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Is it even legal to reveal your role?
 

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I'm level 5 Esper. Mugino.
 
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