[Game] A Certain Mafia Game #30

[Nessos]

the conclusion that town probably shot Demon is a faulty one at best

I completly disagree with this statement. With Demon never coming vack to defend himself, he made himself an undoubtable Vig Target.

Everyone came to.the conclusion Demon was most likely by a Town Vig, scum targeting wouldn't have made much sense.

 

[Nessos]

@Nessos You seem to know about the flavour than anyone else, please comment on this

Simple.
Dark side of Academic City can be seen as slums of Academic City.

The poor people live there and there is a Lot of criminality. "Hound Dog" is terrorist group founded in the Darkside.
-> There exist Darkside characters like me who are Town, but also scum among them

Shanks revealed himsel as Black Acqua.
Black Acqua is part of "God Rights Sead" a fanactic faction of Magicans. These guys would be scum, but not part of the darkside of Academic City.
-> there exist characters that are not part of Darkside who are scum

 

[Nessos]

So we can say for sure Poison can't be a member of "Hound Dog", but he can be a member of "Gids right sead".

I am suprised @Poison tries hard to defend Demon even so he thinks Demon got targeted by a Vig resulting in the action failed.

 

[Elmage G Ace]

Okay, so everyone, I'm asking you all to vote for Elmage here. I'm PRETTY CONFIDENT ON IT. Let's go point to point why he is scum.

• His activity : He is panicking. From the very beginning. He is an easy read as town, always. He is a chill guy and he posts less, every game.
• Tone: His tone is fabricated this game, which totally opposes Alice's statement. He is never genuine doesn't sound like it. he posts for the sake of posting and never for the sake of solving and scum hunting this game.
• Pushes: Fake, weak, bad and wrong pushes which are made for the sake of pretending that he is scum hunting and never for the real thing. Elmage is a guy with better logic and proper reasons and proper points for each of his reads. If we compare his game play to GOT, he is being the 7th season here, his usual games being the 1st.
• he is avoiding points and nitpicking stuffs rather molding a few too, which is never him, and even without meta is a scum trait.
• He started pushing for a ansa lynch against whom he has nothing posted or as to why he is scum reading him. Interesting. Tbh, for his push against Ansa, me scum reading Ansa lessen a bit . it screams like a mislynch of Ansa and he justifies his vote for him somehow. But i can be wrong too, Ansa-Elmage both can be scum together too. I'm paranoid here, but I'm CERTAIN on Elmage. also, He asked for flavor claims and opposed others doing the same.

Not many people talked about Elmage, i would like everyone to look into him. lemme just Announce this, I'll be targeting Ansa this night. and If Elmage is not lynched I'll be targeting him and role claim the next day. @scumteam if you wanna target me tonight go ahead. kek.

Spoiler: mentions

@XTMF
@Rej
@Shanks
@Ansatsuken
@Kyte_
@Alice in Noodleland
@Nikamara
@Johan3113
@Nessos
@Demon
@SirSalt
@iNotorious
@Haze_with_a_Z
@fluffy_rabbit
@Aether9

@bold: Again, show me the posts you see panicking, you keep throwing unfounded accusations, just like nessos

@Italic: That's just a stupid statement fueled by your paranoia

@bold2: Let's see, my current reads are Ansa (can't push him obv), You poison, Kyte_, and possibly Demon, and I can't interact with three of them currently because they've been mostly inactive, which is why I'm pushing you, and you're not doing well so far. How is my logic wrong? Perhaps you just don't understand my writing, or you don't want to

@underline: This is a very SERIOUS accusation and is a lie too, please show you evidence, you've been shading me throughout this game for non-existent reasons, and no evidence. If you can't post evidence, then don't post at all

@Last point: BLATANT LIE!! I haven't been pushing Ansa lynch, I think he's scum, yes, but he's not around to defend himself, I haven't even voted him, that's why I'm pushing you. What I said is that I think both of you are scum together and I don't mind his lynch. I'm hoping that he gets subbed out so we can question who comes in, but yes. I don't mind lynching him, and if you've been reading my posts, you'd see he's part of my top sus, so are you, and I honestly don't understand how you can misinterpret my posts and in some cases just straight-up lie to shade me.

 

[Elmage G Ace]

I completly disagree with this statement. With Demon never coming vack to defend himself, he made himself an undoubtable Vig Target.

Everyone came to.the conclusion Demon was most likely by a Town Vig, scum targeting wouldn't have made much sense.

Not really. By your logic, neither did XTMF or Ansatsuken, they both didn't come to defend themselves too, so they were much better targets in my opinion

 

[Elmage G Ace]

Also that he is GF and immune to night kills?
Thats my guess on Demon.

What's the meaning of GF? Also, Gunha.

We can lynch Demon, as you said, I and Poison can continue this next DP if I still make it, however, I'll be coming for you and Poison if Demon flips town

 

[Elmage G Ace]

I have to work now, be back in 5 hours, anyone with questions just mention me

 

[Poison]

First part.

@bold: AGAIN you misunderstand my statement, that statement means that a potential scum can easily lie that they have a lower power level than they actually have, because scum is expected to have a high level generally to be able to make kills else it'd be useless, which I why I found your low power level claim suspicious!

First, you tell me your level.

Second, they can lie about their levels totally, but I will now who is telling the truth and who is lying. (e.g. Aether)

Now let's hear your level, shall we?

@Italic: What has Aether got to do with anything? I'm talking about your own CLAIM to have a low power level, why are we talking about Aether?

If you read my posts you'll realise, I mentioned later in the game that I know someone with lower power level. And I also claimed Aether is town.

@underline: yeah, but you're not supposed to reveal information that will damage towns, if you actually understood my posts you'll realize that I'm more concerned about your low power level claim, I don't care about what abilities you have, it's yours to keep secret or share if you want, as long as you use it well, but a town player revealing they have a low power level is stupid, except you're lying?
If you're indeed lying then it makes you suspicious at the very least

First, that info is not at all damaging town in any way. Give me reasons why you think they are damaging town.

Secondly,
I have a low power level. it is not a lie. I can confirm my level/role name and get town read in an instant, confirmed by another player. But if you ask me why I risked it in the first place is because I have certain powers. Try me if you want.

 

[Elmage G Ace]

First part.


First, you tell me your level.

Second, they can lie about their levels totally, but I will now who is telling the truth and who is lying. (e.g. Aether)

Now let's hear your level, shall we?

If you read my posts you'll realise, I mentioned later in the game that I know someone with lower power level. And I also claimed Aether is town.


First, that info is not at all damaging town in any way. Give me reasons why you think they are damaging town.

Secondly,
I have a low power level. it is not a lie. I can confirm my level/role name and get town read in an instant, confirmed by another player. But if you ask me why I risked it in the first place is because I have certain powers. Try me if you want.

@bold: level 5

@Italic: I considered that nothing more than your read on him, you said he's probably town, and there was nothing to suggest he wasn't

@underline: it is, because just as you said, 3P, and probably scums have high level, so a town stating they have a low level is basically giving the mafia team and 3P targets

 

[Poison]

Second part.

That would have been a decent explanation, assuming Alice was scum right? So Alice was targetted NP0, then she mentioned she was roleblocked and went to wonderland, something she actually hinted much earlier but it wasn't picked up. I saw it.
I'll show you another angle, even though I didn't want to mention it, first she had said, she was transported, roleblocked a few posts before X made his own, it could be he's just trying to clarify the situation, secondly, it could be that he indeed was the jailer. I mean, now that Alice is town lean, you can see that you were wrong. How ever, I'll give you town points for this because the explanation is sound, but I think this is what is wrong with this game now, speculate on a scenario, the proceed to arrive at a wrong conclusion based on a madeup scenario, see where I'm going?

You are just not reading my posts at all. Read my posts about XTMF and the one you quoted first where you could not understand the italics and I explained.

I purposely didn't use the term for XTMF but I continued to hint it and tried to point it out to Nessos, throughout the game since the TMI. You scum reading me yet not reading my posts. Nice. The angle you are trying to show to me, is what I'm hinting since Day 1 to Nessos. also, the part in italics in the earlier post and even the last line in this one, read that. If you don't want to go back all those pages, you can read my views on XTMF this phase. When you read it you'll know it.

 

[Elmage G Ace]

Second part.

You are just not reading my posts at all. Read my posts about XTMF and the one you quoted first where you could not understand the italics and I explained.

I purposely didn't use the term for XTMF but I continued to hint it and tried to point it out to Nessos, throughout the game since the TMI. You scum reading me yet not reading my posts. Nice. The angle you are trying to show to me, is what I'm hinting since Day 1 to Nessos. also, the part in italics in the earlier post and even the last line in this one, read that. If you don't want to go back all those pages, you can read my views on XTMF this phase. When you read it you'll know it.

I don't understand you at all, what term? Also, I'm not talking about your views on XTMF, I did understand your explanation

 

[Elmage G Ace]

No offense at all @Poison but is English your first language? I feel like you don't even understand my posts

 

[Poison]

Third part,

First of all, we can't know why Demon was attacked, and the conclusion that town probably shot Demon is a faulty one at best, it's true that Demon hasn't made any contributions, however, any townie who is making a decision to shoot, probably wouldn't choose Demon, because at that time, there's no sufficient evidence to show it, he was never even top lynch candidate at any point, if the failed Kill was Ansa, I'd have accepted it

Next, you obviously didn't mention 3P in your first statement, your first statement seemed conclusive, and indirectly, it has set up Demon for a lynch. This is why I wanted him to reveal his flavor to TEST my theory because if Demon flips town, you're a major suspect. Unfortunately, he hasn't revealed his flavor

The questions I asked was clarification, I wasn't sure you were scum, however, your reaction to it, which I'll comment on later is scummy af!

You are saying that Town had better options to shoot instead of demon right?

Let's walk you through the thing I mentioned above again..

Why would the scum team shoot Demon?
(if demon is scum)
Scum would never kill their mate.
(if demon is town)
Scum would never kill a person who got scum read by others.

Would you still say that scum shot him?

Among scum and Town which one do you find more realistic a possibility?

About me not mentioning 3p there doesn't change much of it, besides, if I didn't mention it there, I have mentioned 3p somewhere iirc.

Can you give me one reason why Demon flip has anything to do with me? I can understand Nessos, but why me? Also, it seems like TMI, like you know for a fact that he would flip town and you'd be after me the next day. Oh please, trust me, you chose the wrong person to push. The moment I claim I'll get locked town read and confirmed by other.

 

[Chikombo]

Third part,


You are saying that Town had better options to shoot instead of demon right?

Let's walk you through the thing I mentioned above again..

Why would the scum team shoot Demon?
(if demon is scum)
Scum would never kill their mate.
(if demon is town)
Scum would never kill a person who got scum read by others.

Would you still say that scum shot him?

Among scum and Town which one do you find more realistic a possibility?

About me not mentioning 3p there doesn't change much of it, besides, if I didn't mention it there, I have mentioned 3p somewhere iirc.

Can you give me one reason why Demon flip has anything to do with me? I can understand Nessos, but why me? Also, it seems like TMI, like you know for a fact that he would flip town and you'd be after me the next day. Oh please, trust me, you chose the wrong person to push. The moment I claim I'll get locked town read and confirmed by other.

Whoever wanted me dead is a mystery...

 

[Poison]

I don't understand you at all, what term? Also, I'm not talking about your views on XTMF, I did understand your explanation

No offense at all @Poison but is English your first language? I feel like you don't even understand my posts

Nope it is not. But I do understand your post.

You said

I'll show you another angle, even though I didn't want to mention it, first she had said, she was transported, roleblocked a few posts before X made his own, it could be he's just trying to clarify the situation, secondly, it could be that he indeed was the jailer.

I'm talking about this. You are saying, you are showing it to me but I have been pointing it out since D1.

if you had understood my explanation you won't be showing me my own point.

 

[Poison]

So we can say for sure Poison can't be a member of "Hound Dog", but he can be a member of "Gids right sead".

I am suprised @Poison tries hard to defend Demon even so he thinks Demon got targeted by a Vig resulting in the action failed.

I'm not at all defending him. As I have said, I'm CERTAIN about Elmage being a scum but not demon so I'm pushing my scum read instead of Demon. Point me out where I defended Demon, kek at hard defending.

 

[Poison]

@Elmage are you a Magician or Espar?

 

[Poison]

@bold: Again, show me the posts you see panicking, you keep throwing unfounded accusations, just like nessos

@Italic: That's just a stupid statement fueled by your paranoia

@bold2: Let's see, my current reads are Ansa (can't push him obv), You poison, Kyte_, and possibly Demon, and I can't interact with three of them currently because they've been mostly inactive, which is why I'm pushing you, and you're not doing well so far. How is my logic wrong? Perhaps you just don't understand my writing, or you don't want to

@underline: This is a very SERIOUS accusation and is a lie too, please show you evidence, you've been shading me throughout this game for non-existent reasons, and no evidence. If you can't post evidence, then don't post at all

@Last point: BLATANT LIE!! I haven't been pushing Ansa lynch, I think he's scum, yes, but he's not around to defend himself, I haven't even voted him, that's why I'm pushing you. What I said is that I think both of you are scum together and I don't mind his lynch. I'm hoping that he gets subbed out so we can question who comes in, but yes. I don't mind lynching him, and if you've been reading my posts, you'd see he's part of my top sus, so are you, and I honestly don't understand how you can misinterpret my posts and in some cases just straight-up lie to shade me.

@bold: level 5

@Italic: I considered that nothing more than your read on him, you said he's probably town, and there was nothing to suggest he wasn't

@underline: it is, because just as you said, 3P, and probably scums have high level, so a town stating they have a low level is basically giving the mafia team and 3P targets

I'll reply to this with quotes when on PC

 

[Poison]

I'll reply to this with quotes when on PC

For the second quote I think I have nothing to reply to.!?

 

[Nessos]

Whoever wanted me dead is a mystery...

Mind claiming?