A, B, C, & Darui v. Jiraiya, Orochimaru, & Tsunade

[thenarutoking]

darui didn't do jack against sasuke other than using one move that stopped sasuke, and sasuke is retarded he just charged in on a fight like that almost any jonin could have pulled that off. I respect ur opinion but you have to say something other than spped blitzing because me and futurechaos gave like 10 scenarios wher it would not work

have u went to page 2 number 20 yet?

 

[Futur3Cha0s]

i respect urs as well but come on ur mad that i said c and d would destroy tsunade? they would darui looked pretty good aginst sasuke

yeah that did kind of make me mad. if darui (who i guess everybody considers to be equal to kakashi for some reason) and C could EASILY BEAT tsunade (the hokage) then i think that kumo would have attacked konoha long ago. what was stopping them? raikage himself said that he has tried to defeat konoha so why wouldnt he do it when 2 jonin can beat the hokage and he can just destroy everyone else? nothing is stopping him unless he considers tsunade to be a serious threat and not easily beaten. after oro attacked konoha was weakest in military power and kumo was strongest. why not attack a weakened village that you have been trying to overthrow for years? the only reason i can think of is that their leaders (tsunade as hokage and jiraiya would also be there) are a major threat and capable of matching you in power. if raikage could win as easily as you make it sound and tsunade could lose to two jonin i think raikage would have attacked. afterall he is the type of person who acts recklessly and without thinking and he isnt the type of man to be denied what he wants.

 

[arv993]

if ma and pa was on jiraiyas shoulder? sence they got to be their to donate chakra to him so he can use sage mode

no you are forgetting that he has certain amount of chakra by himself and they dettach from jiraya when they used the frog song against pain.

 

[thenarutoking]

yeah that did kind of make me mad. if darui (who i guess everybody considers to be equal to kakashi for some reason) and C could EASILY BEAT tsunade (the hokage) then i think that kumo would have attacked konoha long ago. what was stopping them? raikage himself said that he has tried to defeat konoha so why wouldnt he do it when 2 jonin can beat the hokage and he can just destroy everyone else? nothing is stopping him unless he considers tsunade to be a serious threat and not easily beaten. after oro attacked konoha was weakest in military power and kumo was strongest. why not attack a weakened village that you have been trying to overthrow for years? the only reason i can think of is that their leaders (tsunade as hokage and jiraiya would also be there) are a major threat and capable of matching you in power. if raikage could win as easily as you make it sound and tsunade could lose to two jonin i think raikage would have attacked. afterall he is the type of person who acts recklessly and without thinking and he isnt the type of man to be denied what he wants.

no the question is why didnt they attack back then? because they wouldve won when oro attacked. lol

 

[thenarutoking]

no you are forgetting that he has certain amount of chakra by himself and they dettach from jiraya when they used the frog song against pain.

doesnt matter A is to fast and wont be caught and if he is bee will disturb the chakra awaking him

 

[arv993]

yeah that did kind of make me mad. if darui (who i guess everybody considers to be equal to kakashi for some reason) and C could EASILY BEAT tsunade (the hokage) then i think that kumo would have attacked konoha long ago. what was stopping them? raikage himself said that he has tried to defeat konoha so why wouldnt he do it when 2 jonin can beat the hokage and he can just destroy everyone else? nothing is stopping him unless he considers tsunade to be a serious threat and not easily beaten. after oro attacked konoha was weakest in military power and kumo was strongest. why not attack a weakened village that you have been trying to overthrow for years? the only reason i can think of is that their leaders (tsunade as hokage and jiraiya would also be there) are a major threat and capable of matching you in power. it raikage could win as easily as you make it sound and tsunade could lose to two jonin i think raikage would have attacked. afterall he is the type of person who acts recklessly and without thinking and he isnt the type of man to be denied what he wants.

Yes you are completely right konoha was always the strongest for most of the series and kumo was always trying to take it down and A himself says that to tsunade when shikaku explained the plan he was going to use. Kumo always tried to obtain power from konoha by trying to kidnap hinata, kushina and had a mission to take kyubi. So narutoking if A was so strong that he could defeat the sanin, they would not be trying to do all these roundabout methods would they, think about this logically and then reply

 

[thenarutoking]

Yes you are completely right konoha was always the strongest for most of the series and kumo was always trying to take it down and A himself says that to tsunade when shikaku explained the plan he was going to use. Kumo always tried to obtain power from konoha by trying to kidnap hinata, kushina and had a mission to take kyubi. So narutoking if A was so strong that he could defeat the sanin, they would not be trying to do all these roundabout methods would they, think about this logically and then reply

logically they made a truths

 

[arv993]

doesnt matter A is to fast and wont be caught and if he is bee will disturb the chakra awaking him

hold up you think that bee would just take care of the 1st in a second and go help out his bro, even if he tried to escape and help, by that time A would be a goner cause ppl like oro and jiraya won't just stand there

 

[arv993]

logically they made a truths

what are you trying to say i don't understand you.

 

[thenarutoking]

hold up you think that bee would just take care of the 1st in a second and go help out his bro, even if he tried to escape and help, by that time A would be a goner cause ppl like oro and jiraya won't just stand there

OMG i want sum1 on my side damnit lol bee wouldnt beat the first i knw that geeze but he can leave the battle with him help A and get back -.- hell bee might be dead when A is caught i dont know how long he will last against hashi tobi and oro. well darui will be helping him too after tsunade dies real easy

 

[Futur3Cha0s]

lets say A ends up taking on jiraiya. i say A will win sorry guys but jiraiya wont react fast enough and naruto even said a direct punch he wouldve been seriously hurt or did he say dead? i dont know but its just one punch.
now D and C get tsunade. come on now black lightning? that will own tsunade and c has a awesome genjutsu that can catch her off gaurd giving darui enough time to hit her with black lightning.
and last bee vs orochimaru and the senju brothers. ok now then samaheda will woop some ass weakening these guys by alot and for A i think he will be their to help but sadly i think bee might be dead by time he gets their but im sure A will know what edo tensei is and know he has to seal em off but other than that iu believe he will blitz orochimaru and with combination of darui and c beat him and as for the 1st and 2nd they will tell them some weaknesses and they will find a way to seal them. and if u got something to say send me a private messege dont quote

I AM RESPONDING TO PAGE 2 NUMBER 20. i think i already have but i'll do it again since you asked. i'm breaking each fight down in numbers.

1. you say A beats jiraiya with speed blitzing. i say beating jiraiya SM, ma, pa, gamabunta, gamahiro, and gamaken with speed blitzing puts A on god level above minato. i think mostly everyone will agree
2. you say darui and C beat tsunade. i say kumo is strong as hell and konoha is as T.I. would say dead and gone if tsunade is that weak. kage vs 2 jonin i'll take kage
3. you say bee beats oro. i say oro, tobirama, and hashirama (man known for controlling tailed beasts) win rather easily. 1 kage level ninja vs 3? i'll take the three any day.

i really dont see why you wanted us to reply to this in all honesty. 1 this post makes it sound like each kumo character is above kage level and can beat multiple kage level shinobi at once. 2 you didnt give any reasons for why team kumo would win besides speed blitz, black lightning, samehada (which is gone if sucks in nature chakra i believe), and A would beat jiraiya and would still be able to help bee take on three kage level ninja. all these reasons seem kind of farfetched but thats just my opinion

 

[arv993]

OMG i want sum1 on my side damnit lol bee wouldnt beat the first i knw that geeze but he can leave the battle with him help A and get back -.- hell bee might be dead when A is caught i dont know how long he will last against hashi tobi and oro. well darui will be helping him too after tsunade dies real easy

haha lol finally you are seeing some of the truth but i don't think that he can go help him that fast becos jirays won't just stand they are not mannequins to wait for bee to run and help his bro out and hashi like you said would beat bee and now they would all go rape the shit out of C and darui.

 

[thenarutoking]

I AM RESPONDING TO PAGE 2 NUMBER 20. i think i already have but i'll do it again since you asked. i'm breaking each fight down in numbers.

1. you say A beats jiraiya with speed blitzing. i say beating jiraiya SM, ma, pa, gamabunta, gamahiro, and gamaken with speed blitzing puts A on god level above minato. i think mostly everyone will agree
2. you say darui and C beat tsunade. i say kumo is strong as hell and konoha is as T.I. would say dead and gone if tsunade is that weak. kage vs 2 jonin i'll take kage
3. you say bee beats oro. i say oro, tobirama, and hashirama (man known for controlling tailed beasts) win rather easily. 1 kage level ninja vs 3? i'll take the three any day.

i really dont see why you wanted us to reply to this in all honesty. 1 this post makes it sound like each kumo character is above kage level and can beat multiple kage level shinobi at once. 2 you didnt give any reasons for why team kumo would win besides speed blitz, black lightning, samehada (which is gone if sucks in nature chakra i believe), and A would beat jiraiya and would still be able to help bee take on three kage level ninja. all these reasons seem kind of farfetched but thats just my opinion

never said bee beats oro every1 will agree that d and c beats tsunade and by the way blitzing jiraiya means ignoring all summoning and just attacking him none of the summons or jiraiya will have time to react anywas and in this case i think A is better than minato in this circumstance but A vs MINATO moinato wins

 

[666]

I AM RESPONDING TO PAGE 2 NUMBER 20. i think i already have but i'll do it again since you asked. i'm breaking each fight down in numbers.

1. you say A beats jiraiya with speed blitzing. i say beating jiraiya SM, ma, pa, gamabunta, gamahiro, and gamaken with speed blitzing puts A on god level above minato. i think mostly everyone will agree
2. you say darui and C beat tsunade. i say kumo is strong as hell and konoha is as T.I. would say dead and gone if tsunade is that weak. kage vs 2 jonin i'll take kage
3. you say bee beats oro. i say oro, tobirama, and hashirama (man known for controlling tailed beasts) win rather easily. 1 kage level ninja vs 3? i'll take the three any day.

i really dont see why you wanted us to reply to this in all honesty. 1 this post makes it sound like each kumo character is above kage level and can beat multiple kage level shinobi at once. 2 you didnt give any reasons for why team kumo would win besides speed blitz, black lightning, samehada (which is gone if sucks in nature chakra i believe), and A would beat jiraiya and would still be able to help bee take on three kage level ninja. all these reasons seem kind of farfetched but thats just my opinion

Read my damn rules, lol

Tobirama and Hashirama can only use the abilities they did against Hiruzen, that means no space Ninjutsu and no ability to control TB.

All Hashirama can do is use Mokuton to create trees, in this fight he's not able to subdue TB because he didn't show that ability vs. Hiruzen. Tobirama can only use the water techs he showed in the anime/manga when fighting Hiruzen too.

 

[thenarutoking]

haha lol finally you are seeing some of the truth but i don't think that he can go help him that fast becos jirays won't just stand they are not mannequins to wait for bee to run and help his bro out and hashi like you said would beat bee and now they would all go rape the shit out of C and darui.

A wont get caught

 

[arv993]

Read my damn rules, lol

Tobirama and Hashirama can only use the abilities they did against Hiruzen, that means no space Ninjutsu and no ability to control TB.

ok no spacetime but mokutun;s main power is to restrict tailed beasts and control tailed beasts so since hashi used mokuton he can use it against bee.

 

[thenarutoking]

Oh yea hey hashirama cant control the 8 tails b ecause killerbee already has him undercontrol so yea gtfo and the 8 tails has a host which is another reason why the 1st cant control so yea gtfo again

 

[arv993]

A wont get caught

wow now you are taking back your statement because you have no comeback, you just lost some credibility and unlike dojutsu genjustsu frog song works without having to look at the person so it will work. A is not protected to genjutsu unlike bee because he does not have a tailed beast.

 

[arv993]

Oh yea hey hashirama cant control the 8 tails b ecause killerbee already has him undercontrol so yea gtfo and the 8 tails has a host which is another reason why the 1st cant control so yea gtfo again

i kno we discussed this a while back but its till restricts himfrom using it and you think base bee can take on hashirama no way that would ever happen.

 

[thenarutoking]

wow now you are taking back your statement because you have no comeback, you just lost some credibility and unlike dojutsu genjustsu frog song works without having to look at the person so it will work. A is not prone to genjutsu unlike bee because he does not have a tailed beast.

lol he has to hear it yes but what if jiraiya is already dead from lariat